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There has been this long script on each page making it almost impossible to use site for quite some time. Does anyone know if something is being done?

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1 year 32 weeks ago, 3:12 PM

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not give a shit. It's my guess they are letting it coast until it gets into negative $$ numbers then flush it down the drain.
I've read old postings and the neglect appears to have started about the time members began pushing hard to stop spammers, looks like new membership was disabled, when old members drifted away no one could fill the void, our numbers dwindled.
At the time new membership was cut off we had some very strong willed and highly opinionated members, they may have put the owners of this site into a terminal case of pissed-off.
When we had problems with signing on a few months ago I tried to contact Quinton but received no response. I don't think I shit in his mess kit, if I did I'm sorry.
I do not know for certain who the owner is, it could have been sold.

Quinton's space cadet web-site:
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His most recent post:
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His user's page, he was last active a few minutes ago:
http://www.truthcontrol.com/users/quinton

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1 year 32 weeks ago, 7:45 PM

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I will look for a new blog then, I really enjoyed sharing, guns and hunting with you guys.

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1 year 32 weeks ago, 4:11 PM

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Remember, backdraft always has the right-of-way.
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1 year 32 weeks ago, 7:22 PM

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Are we all saying goodbye??

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 8:26 PM

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on his own, searching for a blog that is half assed usable.
I'm staying right here to see how bad it can get, are you and TallGuy staying here too??
Facing adversity builds character :))
Since almost everyone agrees that Hillary Rodman Clinton has committed felonies I need to be here for your perspective :))

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 7:01 AM

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I guess I will stay around. I have never seen a site like this die, for an unknown reason, but I suspect this one will.

Re Hillary, my guess is this is not the first felony committed by her[OR Billy, for that matter].
The interesting thing about THIS case is---I know government security regulations from the DOD perspective, having worked in that environment, for quite a long time, for contractors.
My guess is the regs for handling and safeguarding classified info are the same, across the whole spectrum. If an employee, whether civilian, military OR federal civil service requires access to classified info, that employee must undergo a federal background check, usually called a security clearance investigation. That gets started after the completion of a detailed history form by the applicant. If that form is falsified, it probably means slammerville. Once that investigation is completed, the applicant is "granted" a clearance at the requested level, and goes through a DETAILED briefing on HOW TO HANDLE AND STORE classified information, BEFORE any access to such stuff. The person must sign a fed document certifying completion and understanding of the briefing.
My guess is, it is basically the same for elected or appointed federal officials, regardless of rank. [So, I would love to see Obama's case results!!!!] Anyway the question about Hillary is obviously she had to have been briefed, perhaps as a Senator, then debriefed when she left office. AND when appointed SecState had an updated investigation, AND WAS REBRIEFED. The rebriefing documentation EXISTS SOMEWHERE!!!!!! And the debriefing documentation, also, when she left office.
If all of that is true, she prima facie violated security regs if she had classified info sent to her private, UNSECURED server, and also by giving an unsecured thumb drive to her attorney, WHO assumedly DID NOT HOLD a federal government security clearance. The news media never seem to tell the public that much detail, and I am sorry if I bored you. So--once again-- if all of the above is in fact correct re fed employees or appointees, SHE is FEDERAL TOAST.
THAT is my perspective, so far.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 7:11 AM

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 8:05 AM

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a guy by the name of Kelly Chan. Rosecrest Investments LTD, Hong Kong.
I'll be sending an email to the address I found to see if he/they will answer it.
Could he be the same one posting all the Chinese trash product spam we suffered?

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 5:44 PM

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could be good luck.............

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 8:03 PM

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Could be TG,

IF they answer my email it'll be if and when they get to it.
I'd really like to know what their intentions are.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 5:46 PM

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Unfortunately, handling violations of security regulations is wildly inconsistent.
For instance, FBI files "found" in the White House residence during the Clinton presidency. Sandy Burger steals and mishandles classified materials.
Why would Mrs. Cliton suffer punishment when other cases have been swept away?

I would love to see her in the dock, manacled hand and foot wearing orange jail suit with spitter / biter mask on her ass ugly face.

Let me introduce to you the next president of the United States, ladies and gentlemen, Joe Biden !!! Joe, don't say a word, PLEASE, just smile and wave with your mouth shut PLEASE!!
Oh shit, he's talking....

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 10:42 PM

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Over 38 years, I have seen more than many cases prosecuted, in accordance with required due process, and uniformly draconian sentences levied, not just for "punishment" but also as loud examples of what can happen for just one little momentary lapse of attention.
If you are saying high level people in the federal establishment might be treated more generously, you may be right -----like Berger and Petraeus-- big fines, probations, and national disgrace in the face of distinguished service to the USA.
For Clinton, my guess is she will escape the Perp Walk and orange coverall, and she may be able through litigation, to transfer blame to close underlings. Huma Abedin may take the fall for the right amount of $$.

nb--CIA, NSA, and FBI people get hit VERY hard, if convicted of WILLFUL disclosure.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 7:48 AM

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G'morning Guys,

Sandy Burger and the FBI files incidents were both Clinton related.

If the private server belonged to anyone not in positions of tremendous political power I'd say their future includes a stay in the "Crossbar Hotel".

William Jefferson Clinton's impeachment could not have worked more in his favor if he had planned it.
Nixon was convicted coming out of the gate. The most serious failing of Nixon was his inability to lay it all on someone else. "Spiggy Did It!". If he'd been impeached I'm sure it would have been an ugly affair.

Usually the dynamics in politics leaves me utterly nonplussed

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 3:22 PM

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Come-on man!! The discussion was about cases of violations of classified information handling regs--- and their outcomes: NOT impeachment or near impeachment outcomes.

What's your point?

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 4:32 PM

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Sandy Burger and the FBI files incidents were both Clinton related.

If the private server belonged to anyone not in positions of tremendous political power I'd say their future includes a stay in the "Crossbar Hotel".

Clinton is powerful = immunity up to a point.

Powerful W.J. Clinton skated from impeachment = immunity up to a point.

The T.S. emails, possible containing "Compartmentalized" materials 'may' end the immunity for her and severely weaken his immunity, see?

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 9:26 AM

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NOPE

Can't get my head around that, because I do not see impeachment as equivalent to some phantom immunity [ from prosecution??], nor do I see "Clinton power" as making for real or fancied immunity, under the present set of circumstances. It was already disclosed that material at the "CONFIDENTIAL", "SECRET", and "TOP SECRET" levels were found, and additional material at those levels are expected to be found, when the techies finish their work on the server. That being confirmed, is enough for the public and Congress to demand that the AG take appropriate action.
Certainly Hillary will try to deflect and obfuscate by claiming immunity of office, because subordinates screwed the pooch on their delegated secure information handling duties. But, if Hillary was properly briefed [and that documented proof should exist], then ignorance, or delegation of the responsibility, are very shaky strategies, despite Huma Abedin probably falling on Hillary's sword.

I doubt that denial of responsibility will work for material addressed specifically to Hillary, unless PERHAPS the document classification level labels were removed by underlings, prior to being read and/or transmitted by Hillary. If that happened, and they claim they were ordered to do so by the SecState--all of them might very well be permanent residents of our poshest white collar federal prison.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 9:44 AM

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Ex-officials prosecuted for mishandling gov’t info see ‘double standard’ in Clinton case

"Thomas Drake, a former NSA official who after 9/11 went to Congress to sound the alarms about what he called unconstitutional surveillance, also says there is a double standard when it comes to applying classification law."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/17/officials-double-standard-in-...

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 2:43 PM

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I am not impressed

You offer someone else's opinion to support yours. I offered my opinion. So, what we have is opinion versus opinion.
And to add to mine: Obama does not give a rat's ass for the DEMO Party, and the Obamas hate the Clintons. He owes her nothing, and I believe when the proper proof is provided, and it breaks in the news, the POTUS will do his "duty" and unchain his AG, and say: "go get an indictment".[ a piece of his legacy] And the POTUS will laugh his ass off contemplating the disarray this will cause for the Demos, but he will not have made his Islamo-extremist pals happy at all, because a new probable Republican POTUS will mean a get tough policy in the middle east.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 3:09 PM

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material are not sacrosanct, whether to prosecute and if so to what degree is not carved in stone.
You may have access to obama's personal information that I do not. I do know that money and political power can 'make friends', the Clintons are still wealthy and are still powerful.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 10:51 PM

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You have argued

erroneously, that regulations governing the handling of classified material, are "not 'sacrosanct' ". By the term " not sacrosanct", in this context, I believe you mean NOT INVIOLABLE. There are quite a few people in several federal prisons,[ including Leavenworth], whose attorneys must have failed them in that regard.
The Justice Department, especially under an AG like Holder and a POTUS like Obama, can use discretion as to whether to seek an indictment and prosecute, or the POTUS can order a case to be ignored, but that does not mean their inactions are legal.........only that they have balls enough to try it, and expect impunity.
However, if they let it go to court, it has been the courts that have made it look like a "double standard" being applied, most probably at the sub rosa suggestions from the POTUS via the AG. The Jonathan Pollard case demonstrates just how vindictive a Judge can be, but I doubt Hillary's case would be as serious as to warrant a life sentence.

If this investigation of Hillary involves much more numerous high level classified material [ they are projecting over a thousand] and highly sensitive national defense or intelligence subject matter is prominent, I doubt the POTUS will restrain his AG, because disclosure would devastate his legacy, as well as incriminate him, IF the stuff she exposed was highly damaging.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 7:14 AM

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As I said...

"The Justice Department, especially under an AG like Holder and a POTUS like Obama, can use discretion as to whether to seek an indictment and prosecute, or the POTUS can order a case to be ignored..."
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I do know that money and political power can 'make friends', the Clintons are still wealthy and are still powerful.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 12:40 PM

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I believe you are giving much too much credit to Clinton $$ and political power. Incidentally, I do not have any more knowledge about the Clintons vs the Obamas, than anyone else who has read Ed Klein's book, "Blood Feud"......a fascinating read, that provoked no retort on the part of EITHER family.
The other incidental [FBI Investigatory] elephants in the room, are the probability that Billy read some classified material, while no longer having a security clearance up to, and including "Top Secret". And Hillary giving thumb drive(s) to her personal attorney David Kendall, who held no federal security clearance to store or access allegedly secure info up to and including "Top Secret". Plus the probability that Hillary's Denver and New Jersey momandpopshop server wiper/storer, manager had no security clearance, yet had access to alleged classified information.

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1 year 31 weeks ago, 2:58 PM

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their groupies the nod. Millions of people think Hill and Billery are the cat's ass.
As the stories hit the front page going from a few dozen no big deal sanitized emails to thousands containing classified material the Clinton empire appears to be going down by the bow.
As for a prosecution, I'll just have to wait and see.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 9:04 AM

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Just a guess at this point:

They went easy on Petraeus, because he was a great, competent General, but they will try not to with Hillary, because she was a totally incompetent SecState [ especially if the FBI techies resurrect all sorts of classified stuff from "the server"]. I'm betting H serves no time, and gets the universally acceptable "probation" and fine, because the verdict is she is guilty of ONLY misdemeanors.[ unless Michelle wants to really burn her pear-shaped ass].

If I had done stuff like that with classified material, when I had a TS, I'd be talking to you from Leavenworth right now.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 11:21 AM

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offense. When I first joined I did not understand the seriousness of 'security clearances', I learned quick the punishment for violations so I was careful and obedient.
Martha Stewart did prison time for "insider trading", she claimed she put in an order to sell when the stocks reached a certain level. H. Rodman C. will be told to sit in the confessional and recite some hail Marys and our fathers (I'm not Catholic so don't know what that's all about) giving her absolution at the end of the day. Money and power...
Have a good weekend, okay?

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 2:53 PM

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So Far--So Good

My Eagles are playing the Ravens, in two hours [ on TV]. That will keep me out of trouble.

You have a good one, too.

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