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5 years 27 weeks ago, 12:22 AM

runawaygun762

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I have been in the army for 13 years. I originally joined the army to defend my nation, but I realized a while ago that we servicemembers do not do that. We enforce our nation's foreign policy. The cold war is over, and terrorist organizations are not impressed with our military might, as they know our civilian leaders do not have the stomach to allow us to fight to win. I am not disillusioned or disgruntled, I just realize that the "big army" does not directly defend our nation. I have said it before, but I am putting it in a separate post; Armed citizens defend our nation. You defend our nation against foreign and domestic dictators. this is why government officials want gun control; they are completely aware of the fact that guns in the hands of citizens will deter crime, but they use crime control as their cover. They are not so stupid as to think the police can protect us. They are also aware, however, that guns in the hands of private citizens will always be able to limit their power. Even if every member of the standing army were recalled to the states and followed orders to enforce martial law, the sheer numbers of citizens with guns would easily overwhelm the military. Look at the best shooters in our nation. Most of them are civilians. The military may have explosive ordnance, tanks, and helicopters, but the citizens have numbers, skills, and better knowledge of the terrain, whether it be rural or urban. this is why the founders wrote the second amendment the way they did. They acknowledged the fact that a well regulated militia is necessary for our security, so they specified that the people (that would be you all) would have guns. mmany founding fathers didn't want a standing army (The well-regulated militia), but since they agreed that one was necessary, they also wanted to make sure the people would be able to stop the military should it be used as a tool of tyranny. I am pround to serve my nation, and plan to continue to by starting a career with the Border Ptrol when I retire from the army. As a soldier, my first loyalty lies with the people of the United States, then with the government. Was this a rambling, confusing sermon from the soapbox? Maybe, but I stand by it.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
5 years 27 weeks ago, 5:14 AM

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Runawaygun762

^5 brother

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 7:34 AM

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Amen Brother

Amen

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson
5 years 27 weeks ago, 9:36 AM

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agreed. but i hope that sylvans kid doesnt have a gun he prolly kill us all then shoot his self hes the kind of kid that shoots up our schools bastards.....

any who poses a threat to me or my team must die!!!
5 years 27 weeks ago, 9:48 AM

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We live in a different world....now I don't know what job you do in the military, but many of our SOF brothers are in the mountains and streets of the biggest shitholes in the world. There is no better defense than keeping our enemies on the run, in the caves and in the back alleys of the those same shitholes. This war is totally different than anything we have ever seen...this enemy is the greatest we have faced (in a different sort of way, but I think they are easily the most dangerous). Don't be disillusioned man, you just do what's asked of you and there isn't much more you can do. It's not just a lucky break that we haven't been attacked on our soil...they are too busy trying to fight is in those shitholes. I do agree with your assessment of armed citizens though...yes, they play a vital role for sure!

PKato

Patrolman Kato
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself.
They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone
under independence. -- George Washington
5 years 24 weeks ago, 6:15 AM

runawaygun762

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Note in my post I said big army. That does not include SOF. They definitely have a different role than we do. As for the "fight them on their soil so we don't fight them on ours" logic is flawed. The guys chosen to attack us are not the same guys who plant IEDs and shoot RPGs at us. There will be another attack on our soil, no matter how many troops we have fighting in the caves and shit villages.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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