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5 years 24 weeks ago, 10:23 AM

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im a low budget shooter . that said im also somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to accuracy . i live out in bfv and have had some trouble with coyotes lately. so i went and bought myself a h&r ultra varminter in 223 sounded logical and practical but now im just frusterated as hell because i'm not able to get a consistant zero . and dont know if its me ,the gun , or the ammo . which is hornady 40 gr v max . i put about 100 rds thought the gun and somtimes i will go out and shoot moa at 200 and the next day cant shoot a 2 in group at a 100 yd target. any body have any advice . i am looking at a savage model 12 in 243 but if its the shooter then theres no use getting a better rifle huh .

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 10:29 AM

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i don't think its the ammo. it is probably you, or the rifle. what kind of glass do you have? or are you using iron?

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:05 AM

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ive got a center point 4x16 powerd scope and i leave it on 16 power

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:04 AM

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I agree with Reaper,

Are you shooting from a rest? Locking the rifle in place? I had this problem with my hunting rifle this year. It turned out that the screws/bolts that held the barrel and action to the stock were not torqued right. You might check that as well. Also remember that the environment will effect your bullet while in flight. Was the weather similiar on the days you were zeroing?

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:12 AM

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yes i am shooting from a rest and know i havent check the scews to ensure that they are secure but i will also the wheather has been simular as far as wind speed and direction maybe a 10 degree diff in temp

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:17 AM

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ive been told that cleaning the rifle can also change my zero this mornig i shot and the first round was 11 in high the next 2 where 9 high but 1/2 in apart the next 2 where 2 in high and touching the next shot was 2 in left any suggestions

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:28 AM

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Trouble,
how often were you pulling the trigger? I have found that if I take a .22 with me that I shoot better. Here is what I mean. I fire 3 rounds at the target. If I like the group, I adjust my scope. For the next 10-15 minutes I play around with my .22 and shoot branches off the trees or whatever. I go back to my rifle and shoot a 3 shot group. I continue with this pattern until I am tired or I get the results I am looking for.

From what you wrote, it seems like the rifle might not be secure on/in the rest. Reaper and Greasypaws are way better at trouble shooting this kind of thing than I am. I will call my hunting party tonight and see if they have any suggestions. I will keep in touch.

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:04 PM

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thanks i appreciate all of the help i just check my stock bolt and it was good and snug . any futher info would be appreciated . thanks again

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 3:29 PM

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Try Shootin from a prone position. With that in mind try holding your breath and shoot then. or try the sniper special Hold your breath while in the prone position and shoot between heart beats.

5 years 24 weeks ago, 3:36 PM

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or...

or... just shoot from the bench. he is trying to zero his rifle snake, not snipe in the jungle

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 3:37 PM

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I was going to say that your could be "jerking the trigger" or not breathing right or consistnant but if you use a bench that holds the weapon for you...I don't know what to tell you. Although, I have never trusted a bench for zeroing, When I shot an animal or a target, I am not shooting from a bench...so I zero in the prone with a good bone supported position making sure I don't take to long holding it in positions and making sure I am not "muscling it" to the taget. Try to shot from the prone or sitting at the 36yd line(same as 300yd when you factor the arc). See how it goes. Other then that, Ask one of the coaches at your local shooting range to show you what your doing wrong before it becomes a habit.

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 3:52 PM

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walking elevation

What gets me is that trouble has a walking elevation. From his report, the bullet seems to move down towards the bull. I have been thinking about this. is your scope secure?

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 9:24 PM

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Use a heavy round. Sometimes the rate of twist, 1:9, 1:7 will be detrimental to you precision. I went with a DPMS 1:7 with 62 grain hornady bt's. dead on. Even the match grade 75 grain fly's really good. Now with a light round, you may spin too much or not enough. Imagine a top letting loose with out a stabilizing effect from say rifling....
I have experienced great differences in ammo....
Winchesters get you by, but try black hills or hornady. You should get great accuracy/precision from that gun. Scope doesn't matter to me as long as the screws are all tight and boresighted

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 10:15 PM

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If so, take a one dollar bill and see if you can run it between the barrel and the stock. You should be able to have the bill slide from the forearm back to where the chamger ends. If you can't get the dollar to slide all the way. Any place where the dollar bill will not slide it means the stock is touching the barrel. This will throw your rounds. Like Clint asked, what is the twist of your rifle barrel?

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 1:11 PM

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THANK FELLAS CLINTLEBO WAS RIGHT MY SCOPE WAS NOT SECURE WELL ACCUALLY IT WAS MY TURRETS THAT WERE LOSE BUT I REALLY APPREICIATE EVERYBODYS ADVICE NOT IM BACK TO SHOOTING SUB MOA FROM PRONE THANKS AGAIN I M USUALLY A QUICK LEARNER BUT I DO GET FRUSTRATED EASY .

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 4:11 PM

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Glad to help

I am happy I was able to aid you in this time of frustration. I know all to well what it is like to do everything correct, but forget one small detail while shooting.

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 1:17 PM

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IM CONSIDERING ANOTHER RIFLE PROBABLY SAVAGE MODEL 12 THIS WOULD BE SET FOR 500 AND 600 YD SHOTS SO OUNCE AGAIN WHAT DO YOU THINK

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 1:29 PM

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what are you going to be using it for, or hunting with it?

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