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7 years 40 weeks ago, 11:01 AM

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Should We Worrie ?

Well people in Two Months we will have a new Commander in Chief.One who's stance on the 2nd amendment is something he is not in favor with. Now my question is this.Do you think he will try and dismantle the use of concealed carry and mess with the reciprocity laws.He has stated many times that the only people who should carry are law enforcement,now i have two brothers that are in law enforcement and we have the same views.And i have a concealed carry permit am in danger? what do you all think.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 12:33 PM

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What me worry?

Damn right we should worry, but what else do we paranoid gun owners do best, except shoot. I really think he will have problems with this one, as long as the Supreme Court stays balanced as it is. If the Supremes get the Liberal Power in then we could have problems, but then again, he will need to be re-elected. It will be done incrementally like they have always usurped power, slowly one step at a time. Look it took them 60 years to get someone like this elected to the Presidency, so as you can see they are in no rush. Only fools rush in.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 1:08 PM

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I'm worried

The way i look at it, if he outlaws gun ownership the only people that will have them ARE the outlaws.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 1:31 PM

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Lethal Whisper

Well said and WELCOME to Gunslot.com.
Thank you for your service to this great country, in a time of need.
Welcome back to the USA, we will probably need your skills and expertise. Good shooting by the way!
Now I have a 66 ElCamino that needs to be painted. I small golf ball size dent in right front fender and no rust. Change color from blue to Black. Really is straight. But I digress.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 4:03 PM

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you are right

I pray that he leaves us alone.And by the way welcome to gunslot.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 7:11 PM

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Good afternoon everyone I am very new here but I am very concerned with a situation that I have created for myself. I, have in the past, made decisions which have allowed me the lose my right to bear arms. Although the events have occured well over ten years ago, I want to find out about regaining my right once again. I am a firm believer of protecting my home and family in any situation that arises. I am curious if anyone has ever in the past been in trouble with the law and has regained the priviledge to bare arms? And if so how did you go about doing so? What steps were taken?

7 years 40 weeks ago, 8:21 AM

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your situation

First off let me welcome you here to guns lot.And in regards to your situation ,i can only recommend that you seek the advise of an experienced firearms attorney,someone who is extremly knowledgeable in gun laws and gun rights.I am sure the NRA can point you in the right direction.Depending on the severity of your past situation that may be a factor.Good luck in your quest,stay possitive and do your research.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 8:11 AM

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My thoughts is he will not demand an outright ban on guns, because he does not want an uprising, which he knows would happen. He will ban new sales of ARs and semis, he will try to abolish CCWs. The big thing is taxing ammo out of the price range of the average citizen.

7 years 40 weeks ago, 8:25 AM

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your right

Welcome to guns lot happywife, My local gunstore has jacked up their prices on AR'S and Mr. president elect wants to jack up all ammo 500% what kindda crap is that.

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7 years 39 weeks ago, 7:13 PM

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hmmm

welcome happywife, I agree with you but will add that I think Obama will not do anything foe awhile.too many other pressing matters and too much money involved in the gun industry.However I think he will pass the buck and go state by state and let the Govenors and mayors take the political heat.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 1:03 AM

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Hold on tight!

These Libs are coming for your weapons. They are going right down the list that Carl Marx wrote in the Communist Manifesto, in order to take over a government. Happwife is right. They will take your rights a little at a time. Small things that don't seem to be too important...ie. smaller capacity clips, no more assault rifles, no more full auto's. Things that don't impact all gun owners. Then they will take something else. They will make it tougher to get CCW's. Longer waiting periods. More strengent background checks. Past records will come into play, such as traffic violations, past due payments, things of that nature. They will find anything that sounds logical, to misinform the public that they are looking out for our protection and these pesky traffic violators must be stopped from owning guns. I know that sounds funny, but what ever they use as an excuse will sound just as amusing, except it won't be a joke. My advice is to join the NRA, write to your congressman, make some noise! Don't let them take anything away without a fight. Ted Nugent said it best..."Anyone who would want to be disarmed and defenseless must be from the Planet of the Apes!"

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 9:23 PM

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ol Uncle Ted

Advice to all (I'm sure you don't need it), but pick up a copy of "God, Guns, and Rock N Roll" by 'Uncle' Ted Nugent.

As samD said above...ergo, I digress.......to the bar

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 9:35 PM

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Its tough in NY

NY sucks from a redneck point of view. This state has the toughest laws in American. It seems like each time California does something more restrictive, NY one ups them. I have a CCP- but its against the law to carry it. If I am hunting or target shooting its legal. If I have the weapon on me, I must prove I am invovled in one of these activities.
How can we get any more restrictive?
But what do we do if the dem's steal our guns? I am not goping to jail,killing anyone, fighting anyone and certainly not police(who would just be doing thier jobs).
Its coming but what can we do?

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 10:11 PM

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Then it sounds like you would be giving up your guns i dont see any more options if the law has been passed. only other way to stop it is write your congress ppl and join the NRA to prrevent it. and i wouldn't be too suprised if the police sided with us on this one.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 10:20 PM

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Thats one of the best things about southeast TN, every joe shmo is packin and everyone is cool with it. I couldn't imagine not carrying something.

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 8:55 AM

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carrying

carrying is a way of life,i dont leave home without my buddy!

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7 years 40 weeks ago, 9:32 AM

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Amen, yngblknlegl

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 7:34 PM

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Hey neighbor

How are things in Clevegas? Etowah hollerin' atcha!

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7 years 39 weeks ago, 2:33 PM

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His Mission

His first four years won't be too bad. He will outlaw Sales of AR and tighten rules on CCW, but he still wants to be reelected. If he is reelected he will do what he can to outlaw gun ownership of any kind. He will most likely even try to stop off duty law enforcement from carrying.

7 years 39 weeks ago, 6:13 PM

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Hey-Pipes

You said it....dead on..But I do not think he will get reelection. His economic policies will bankrupt us. His loyal followers will realize he is not going to make thier inconvienient life any better. His energy policy will close coal mines, coal plants, regulate diesel consumption and banrupt oil companies. If he does what he wants to do gas will be $6/gallon and electricity will be triple our present rates.
Unemployment rates will increase slightly (say 7-8%) and tax burdens will skyrocket.
People will begin to understand that GWB was not that bad of a guy.....
Doesn't anyone read his website or listen to his speaches? He has verbalized and written all this shit down. He wants high energy prices so we can stop global warming....do any people correlate high prices with inflation and the lowering of our quality of living across the board?

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 7:57 PM

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So true

He wants us to be dependant on the government for everything. Protection, food, clothing, energy...everything. They think that we are incapable of thinking for ourselves, that we can not be trusted and we cannot self govern. They want us to be helpless so that is easier to control us. That is the only way that communism can exist. A revolution to re-establish capitalism will be much more difficult if we don't have the arms to take the country back from the Marxists. Only allow them to have your guns if they pry them from your cold, dead hands, people. That is the only way they are gonna get mine!!! People in New York and California, the time for revolution is now. If you can't change these oppressive laws through legal methods, then move to a state that is more gun friendly. After they start missing the tax dollars that they are no longer getting from you, then they can rot in their hippie stink that they have created. Let these silly, uninformed girls who voted for this Commie bastard, just because Katy Curric, Carson Daly, Oprah and the entire M-tv staff said that it was cool, can move to NY and Cali and live in a communist utopia. That ain't for me. I plan on working for all the stuff that I get. That way, I don[t have to owe the government for anything. It will be mine, lock, stock and barrel. If I did not work for it, then it is not mine and I have no right to it. Whatever IT is.

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 8:45 PM

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a-men brother

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 10:49 PM

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My bet is Obama will go for the 1st ammendment 1st, then...then go for the second. First he will but a man in charge of FCC who will put "The Fairness Doctrine" in place: basically shutting down conservative broadcasting. Then, with nothing but liberal press, few will hear what is going on in government. Then he will put people in place to super-tax gun ownership with $100++ taxes on magazines, semi-autos, etc.
By the time enough of us make a stink he will have put his people in the federal courts so when we go to court to challenge constitutionality of his handy work, his "judges" will impose their will on us...
I do not think "worrying" is what we should be doing...but we should be downright concerned...and vigilent...

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 7:06 AM

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Time and Time Again

I will continue to say this,time and time again,Had it not been for the horrible way George Bush JR ran this country into such a shit hole,a person like Obama would have never stood a chance.I truly belive that the masses of Americans(i for one) was sick and tired of his lying bullshitting ways.His last 4 years in office were nothing but lies.greed and deception, and i voted for that numb nutt! Had he been a little more like his dad or Regan we would have had McCain.Not that i was thrilled with Palin Even though i love the fact that she is a life member of the NRA such as myself.But to be totally honest she was'nt the sharpest knife in the drawer. We can complain all day about Obama that much is true,we all know how he wants to raise the price of AMMO up to 500% and his stance on firearms.Yes we all know these things, but i mean come on people.face it George Bush screwd us,know he can sit back with his stolen wealth while we the common folk,have to sit on pins and neddles waiting to see what happens to our 2nd ammendment.

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 12:06 AM

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Yes, but...

is socialism the answer for Bush being a dumb ass? I agree that he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but should we scrap the entire capitalist form of economy because Bush made some mistakes? Once Obama starts taking away individual liberties...ie. freedom of speech, gun rights, etc., we will never get them back. Have you seen how long it took to repeal the Prohibition of Alcohol ammendment? Many many years; and that was just one. Think about if he takes 5 or 10 rights away. It would take lifetimes to get them back. Don't be foolish and throw the baby out with the bath water. Make no mistake that we are talking about radical socialists in all three branches of the legislature, and they want to stick it to YOU!

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 9:23 PM

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Time will tell

Hi I think obama will have his hands so full of bail outs, banks, wall street, The big 3,Iran. Russia,Iraq and all the other B.S that we may have at best two years before he gets around to the guns. I do think he will get some of his cabinet to start plans on breaking it off in us asap.I could be wrong but I can not see them altering or changing the second ammendment I think the world money crunch is on the side of the gun owner at this time. Just one major attack on America God forbid, Obama might be glad we all have guns.

7 years 38 weeks ago, 12:19 AM

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Make no mistake...

They already have a plan. They are just waiting for him to be sworn in. Carl Marx wrote the plan years ago.

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 9:27 PM

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the dems are already hard at work trying to put a clinton style gun ban back in place plus alot more guns are on the list this time for more info google H.R.6257 and read the list!

7 years 38 weeks ago, 11:32 PM

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I agree to some extent

I have a similar view on things with mudrat12, however B.H. Obama believes that Iran is a small insignificant country. He may have a full plate with the afore mentioned items but there are plenty of his mindless sheep willing to give him all the help they can. It's not just those that voted for him either, I have met many people who say, "Oh well, it will get better eventually." I say B.S. to that, it will only get better if those of us who are willing to make it better get to work now and be as proactive as possible. It is almost always to be proactive instead of reactive.

As far as the money crunch being on our side sounds resonable to some degree but eventually it will affect us in that we will only have enough money to buy fuel to get to work so we can buy food wich all these things will have ever increasing taxes. This is of course an opinion, and a synical one at that. Hope I haven't depressed anyone, I think I'm going to have a drink of cool-aid now. Maybe that will make it better.

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 12:10 PM

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drinking? [I am not sure many of our readers understand what you alluded to, when you said that, but it is a great comment!]

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 12:13 PM

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kool aid

I'm guessing Jim Jones/Jonestown?

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 10:39 AM

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for those that say he will have his hands full for the first couple of years...

He will definately be attending to more important issues (to them), but the president doesn't really have to do anything except for sign a piece of paper (along with congress) that is placed in front of him to re-implement certian firearm restrictions.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
7 years 38 weeks ago, 11:54 AM

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But one thing we cannot validly say is that he is a dummie. He is probably one of the most intelligent, IQ-wise, of any presidential candidate or President-Elect. And, he is a shrewd politician.

I doubt he would want to go down in history as the person who, single-handedly, precipitated the SECOND US CIVIL WAR!! IMO, THAT is what erosion of Second Amendment rights will inevitably lead to.

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 11:56 AM

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2nd

he may not abolish the second amendment, but I caould easily see him signing off on "clinton-like" restrictions

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7 years 38 weeks ago, 7:39 PM

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Worry or Prepare

If you hear a sniff of "outlaw guns", you better grab the bugout bag and hunker down. If you haven't already checked out what guys like Gerald Celente and Lindsey Williams are saying about the next twelve months, you might want to have a look. http://www.dailypaul.com/node/72642

7 years 38 weeks ago, 11:24 PM

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Good call, reaper

The libs have their posse of elected retards who focus almost entirely on taking our guns away. Obama doesn't have to do anything except toe the party line, take away our guns, and sit comfortably behind his bullet-resistant glass, kevlar-backed oval office chair, surrounded by secret service whose salaries are paid by the people who are becoming more like subjects and less like citizens.

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