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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:04 PM

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Which one is better between the Smith & Wesson SW40VE and the Glock .40? I've shot a Glock .40 a few times and liked it. Whats the different in the twos performance and etc...?

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:27 PM

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What series of S&W?

I had a Sigma series S&W. I hated it, creepy, sloppy trigger. Felt like a petrified turd in my hand. I'm not much of a Glock guy myself, but I'd definately take a Glock over a Sigma Series from Smith & Wesson. They do make great revovlers though.

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:33 PM

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I agree,

The Sigma series is crap. I had an early model and had nothing but jams out of it. I traded it in and later picked up a newer model and it was worst the the first. I do own several glocks, a 19 and a 23, and like them both. I keep them as a couple of house guns but carry my 1911 out and about. Their revolvers are excellant, I still carry the 36 chief my dad bought in the 60's. It's a great little gun.

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:34 PM

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Yeah I don't like the Sigma muc either. It's not very accurate and is strange to shoot.

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:46 PM

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I traded mine off

for a Springfield 1911 Champion plus $100.00. It's all milspec, matte black finish and such. I think I got a heck of a deal and I wouldn't get rid of it for almost anything.

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:40 PM

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I'm an idiot, truly.

I just googled the gun your talking about, the S&W40VE. I didn't know that they were the same thing (S&W40VE/Sigma). O.K., now that we've got that straight, I'd get a Glock. Glocks function more smoothly, and for some reason I got a sting in the palm of my hand shooting the Sigma even with the Hogue slip on grip. It was terribly inaccurate, although some of that could have been me. The designs are very similiar and I believe S&W even had a suit against them from Glock for the design being too close or something like that. Like I said earlier, I'm not a Glock guy but I would buy the Glock and use the Sigma as paper weight or some similiar applicatioin.

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:52 PM

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Semi-auto handguns: Mediocrity, at best.

Revolvers: Excellence

IMHO

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 9:53 PM

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I totally agree.

That about sums it up.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:08 PM

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i dont think so, semi auto's perform as good as revolvers, plus they carry more than twice the bullets.

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 11:00 PM

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I sold my

SW40VE and bought a Glock 23. Never looked back. The sigma is fine for a cheap gun... but not glock quality. like undeniable said, very long trigger pull. I don't recommend them unless its all you can afford

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5 years 12 weeks ago, 4:49 AM

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I have heard their heat treat isn't as good as it used to be. I haven't heard anything bad about their M&P pistol series though.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 10:58 AM

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I think they still make great quality revolvers, and their M&P series is pretty good. I'm just not a fan of the Sigma series.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:07 PM

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nothing beats a glock.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 1:45 PM

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Haven't shot the Sigma Series S&W. But love my Glock 40cal.

5 years 11 weeks ago, 4:05 AM

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The Glock is the hands-down winner, but the S&W will serve you well as a defense gun.

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4 years 44 weeks ago, 3:50 PM

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love it

i finally got to shoot my S&W sw9ve and i love the thing. im actually selling my 9mm compact and p22 so i can buy a sw40ve. ive shot a glock 40 cal and it just doesnt seem to "stay in my hands" as good as a sigma series does. i guess cause the polymer is shaped better for me on a sw9ve then a glock is

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4 years 44 weeks ago, 4:33 PM

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40 cal :D

ive now got the 2 tone silver/black 9ve and a 2 tone silver/green 40gve

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4 years 44 weeks ago, 6:08 PM

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I carry a Smith M&P .40 at work and also own one that I carry concealed. Don't especially like the trigger pull but have never had a malfunction.

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4 years 44 weeks ago, 6:47 PM

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carry on the job

i wish i could carry at work. i dont see why they dont let the qualified people carry. i flag traffic and sometimes they send us to places where there is no cell service and 2 houses in the middle of nowhere land. if i still have the save job by winter time then i might just maybe carry it then but it would be hard to get away with it right now

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2 years 29 weeks ago, 11:30 AM

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What about Smith & Wesson's new M&P line?

2 years 29 weeks ago, 3:08 PM

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Glock everyday for me. I dont like the way the M&P feels at all....not to mention I think its ugly..lol

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2 years 29 weeks ago, 6:58 AM

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M&P has suffered some early bugs/fails (9mm catastrophic failures, etc.). Trigger isn't as good as a Glock (which ain't sayin' much) unless you get a special model or aftermarket mod.

M&P is gaining ground with large-agency LE use, but has got a long way to go to catch up with Glock. We T&E'd M&P pistols a few yrs back and no one put it at the top of the list.

As for appearance, both the M&P and Glock are FUGLY, but our Glocks have run 100% for 5+yrs, aside from ID10T errors which happen with *any* firearm.

2 years 27 weeks ago, 10:25 AM

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.40 cal.

If you had your choice between the following: 4th gen Glock 23, Sig Sauer P229 DAK, Smith & Wesson 40 M&P. Which would it be and why?

2 years 27 weeks ago, 10:51 AM

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Mostly it comes down to handling. The Sig just feels more natural to me hand. The S&W is very similar, I think, in handling and appearance to the Sig, but I hear too much from other shooters that there are issues with it. And I'm just not a real big Glock fan. They just don't feel right to me.

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2 years 27 weeks ago, 11:49 AM

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Those are all good pistols. I have a gen 3 G23, and two DA/SA 229's. I have quite a bit of trigger time behind M&P's also. All will be reliable so it comes down to personal preference. The grip and trigger will be the main differences in feel. M&P offers models with a manual thumb safety while the others don't. Do you have a range near by that you can test drive them side by side?

229 DAK: unloaded weight is approx 32 oz with 6.5 lb trigger
G23: unloaded weight is approx 21 oz with a 5.5 lb trigger
M&P: unloaded weight is approx 24.5 oz with 6.5 lb trigger

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2 years 27 weeks ago, 6:56 AM

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comparison continued

Springfield Armory XD(M) .40 caliber, Sig Sauer P229 DAK (.40), 4th gen Glock G23 (.40), Smith & Wesson M&P .40. You've all probably noticed a common theme. As a Police Officer I have qualified as well as practiced with a 40 cal so I'm quite comfortable with it. My first ever firearm was a Colt Python .357 and yes, I used .357 ammo not .38, although I did try some .38 +P+. Then I moved on to a Smith & Wesson Model 410 (.40 cal.) and it had a habbit of jamming during prolonged practice sessions despite it being relatively clean. I say relatively because after half an hour it's not that clean any more. I'm trying to decide on one of the four mentioned above. So, in addition to the "feel" of the weapon if any one can relate any more experiences with them I would greatly appreciate the input. If there is another quality .40 cal pistol that someone would rate as highly or better that is not listed, so long as it's a .40, than I'd like to hear that as well. Again, thanks for the feedback.

2 years 27 weeks ago, 11:58 PM

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USP's are available in DAO configuration. Just throwing it in the mix. All the pistols you've listed should be good to go, it just comes down to preference. You can find "torture tests" that have been performed on all of them. I've personally never had a problem with any Glocks or Sigs that I've owned (I don't have any experience with the DAK). I've also shot quite a few M&P's, XD's and USP's (DA/SA) and never had any problems.

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2 years 27 weeks ago, 7:07 AM

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Was lucky to get a REP gun LOVED THE HELL OUT OF IT got it for $500 40 cal safety on both sides shot great but child support came first so off it went and some day I will try to get a another........TY

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2 years 27 weeks ago, 9:41 PM

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How about Springfield Armorys .40 caliber?

2 years 27 weeks ago, 10:09 PM

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same thing. Good pistol. Comes down to personal preference. I don't really care for the grip safety but I still like the feel of them. .40 holds 16+1 so you get more mag capacity. The frame/handle is slightly taller than other pistols in the same size catagory.
http://www.gunslot.com/pictures/height-comparison

the 4.5" .40 XDM unloaded weight is approx 32 oz. trigger pull is listed as 5.5-7.7 lbs

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2 years 27 weeks ago, 9:03 AM

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GLOCK 23 ALL DAY EVERY DAY. lol I carry it 24/7, got around 500-600 rounds through it with not 1 malfunction. Plus with the rubber grip I added to it makes it fit and feel SOOOO nice in my hand, my wife and mom both love my gun too. Ive got the gen3 g23 RTF, thats why I got the rubber grip cover, that RTF was rubbin me raw...I know concealed isnt supposed to be comfy, but I know it aint supposed to hurt. lmao

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Thank you

Keep the "reviews" coming, I appreciate them all. Again, thanks.

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