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5 years 23 weeks ago, 1:46 PM

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Hey everybody im looking for a good rifle and a came across this web site sniper central.com and found that they build rifle starter packages just wonder what you guys thought about the deal and if it were worth it thanks for your help . here is the rifle http://www.snipercentral.com/entrypackage.htm
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5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:18 PM

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Andrew530

Not bad, but you can buy the Howa 1500 rifle cheaper and I heard they are a good rifle with the heavy 24 inch barrel.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 5:26 PM

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The one you are looking at is an ok set up, but this one is just as good and you will have some money left over to buy ammo.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=122812748

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 6:23 PM

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why you wouldnt build your own slowly as the money comes in, I will say you are probably better off getting the howa (NIB) from SC rather than the mauser98. I will tell you that you can get a remmy 700 in .308-26" heavy barrel 1:12 for about 6 bills, the stock will be shit but you can get the same B&C stock (thats on the howa your looking at) for about 2 bills, the bipod about 60-90 bux and a decent scope for about 3.5 bills and that leaves you a basic sub moa rifle that you can build from as the funds come. Im soo impressed with the out of the box accuracy of the remmy 700's, as I just dont have the knowledge of the howa actions, I cant say the same for them but Ive heard nothing but good things. It seems you are new to long range precision firearms, and for this reason I will pm a link, that everyone who is interested in long range shooting, should have a browse through. Good luck in your venture.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 11:30 PM

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i agree with eturnit if you're wantin some superior performance you need to just get a good base rifle and make the mod's as you go along, keep going till it just can't get any better.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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Hmm....

no one even though to ask me Snake.....The sniper rifleaholic....oh well your loss......X(

5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:57 PM

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Snake

Actually I was kinda waiting for you to chime in on this, Im curious of your input, please share your thoughts, btw HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN!!!!!

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 3:12 PM

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I would go for a Remington 700 my self there not very hard to find in my veiw. They have been produced from 1962-present. they can shoot upto 800 meters.The Model 700 ADL has also been re-branded as the Model 700 SPS (Special Purpose Synthetic) in newer models. The rifle was chambered for .308 Winchester cartridge as well as the .223 Remington, .243 Winchester, 7 mm Remington Magnum, .300 Winchester Magnum, and .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. This is my thought. Happy hunting my freind

5 years 23 weeks ago, 4:59 PM

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REMINGTON...

I would start off with a 700P, XCR, or VTR. All you would need is a bi pod and some good glass and you're set. I've never shot the VTR yet, but have heard good things(they're a little cheaper than the 700P). Remington also offers a "TWS" (tactical weapons system) of the 700P and 700LTR wich is already set up with a bi pod, scope and hard case.

If you start out with a base 700, you will spend much more money customizing it (the barrel alone will cost more than the difference between the two). As I learned with my 1911... it is much cheaper to buy the gun from the manufacturer with all the bells and whistles, than to buy the base madel and do all of the additions yourself.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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where the hell

did u find a 700vtr cheaper than a 700p? The stock on the vtr isnt bad (not great IMHO) but that barrel is pretty funky. msrp for the 700sps varment (cuz they dont make the 700p anymore) is $695 with 26" heavy barrel, the xcr (not sure why you would recommend an extreme conditions rifle,he lives in CA, but w/e) is about $1060 or close to. the xcr tactical is about $1400. The TWS (what your thinking of is the 40-XS, google it or look up on remmys website) will set you back around 3 grand so lets not compare apples to mangos... What barrel is going to cost the difference between 3 g's and $650?

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 10:53 AM

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what cal

what cal you looking at buying? If it were I it would be the Rem 700 in 300 winchester mag. That way it's a dual purpose sniper / big game gun.
OHHHH I want a win 300 mag soooo bad. Might just be the best all around hunting round EVER.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 11:06 AM

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Eturnit3

First off, they do still make the 700P (Police), which is different from the 700SPS (Special Purpose Synthetic)...
http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/700p.htm

It comes with a 26" bbl 1/12" twist in the .308 version and HS Precision stock. It sales for between $800-$900 and can shoot .5 MOA out of the box.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/rem_700police.html

The 700P tactical weapons system (TWS)... google it, or look on remmys website...
http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/700ptws.htm
comes with a harris bi pod, case and leupold veri-X III 3.5-10x tactical scope (which you would need to buy anyway). The TWS does cost around $2200-$2400, but if you're going to have to spend that much anyway for a quality scope, why not get it from the factory. While the 40 XS is a nice set up, thats not what I was referring to.

The 700 VTR costs around $700 wich IS cheaper than the 700P!
http://www.impactguns.com/store/rem_700police.html

All I was going to point out is...

If you're gonna buy a stock 700 for $600-$700... why not buy the 700VTR for $700-$750? Or the 700P for $800-$850? If you were to try to modify a stock 700, it would cost more. I never said that you would have to add a $2300 barrel. You were just adding words to my mouth. For the price difference between the stock 700 VS. the 700VTR or 700P, you get a much better deal with the later two options.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 3:20 PM

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reaper,

Wasnt trying to put words in your mouth man, Ill quote your exact words here for clarification (not to start a pissing match)

"If you start out with a base 700, you will spend much more money customizing it (the barrel alone will cost more than the difference between the two)."
you mentioned the tws right before this.

You didnt refrence exactly which 2 to compare so I'll put the fault on myself, and add an apology if I've stepped on your toes. I guess all in all it comes down to preference, and assumtions. I agree with you in that the vtr does come with a better stock than the sps (even though my refrences pointed to the sps varment) but you've made the assumption that he will be happy with the hs precision stock, I myself would still be replacing it with something with adjustable cheek weld/ LOP.
I do agree with you that you are spending less if you are to buy all the bells and whistles packaged. I did base my opinions on the price range of the HOWA he mentioned to begin with. And I was unaware they still made the 700p, I was under the impression they replaced it this year with the sps. (that was an assumpion on my part). I still dont get where they guarantee a half moa out of box for any of these systems, but none the less... I see your points and I hope you see mine. and again I wasnt trying to put words in your mouth, sorry for that.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 6:12 PM

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No worries, I don't get into pissing matches. I have many opportunities, and always pass. I was just stating my opinion, and you stated yours, thats it. I never take anything on the site seriously enough to to get upset. FUCKIN ASSHOLE!!!

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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oh...

and Remmy doesn't guarantee .5 MOA, I was just saying that the rifle is capable of it. In my opinion, the 700P is a very good set up for a starter rifle. FUCKIN ASSHOLE!!!

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 7:08 PM

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Lol k

Thnx man just didnt want to seem like I was out to get anyone or anything

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:25 PM

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yippe!!!! ah who am i kidding im always right when it comes down to sniper stuff.

5 years 22 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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you guys are so funny, helpful but funny. yea i been looking at the rem. 700sps varment in a 308 or would the 300 mag be better, and also does it have a free floating barrel???

5 years 22 weeks ago, 9:15 PM

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sniper rifle shit!

unless you are LE why do you feel a sniper type rifle is the way to go?i call bullshit when i see,hear,read it!there are only a few on this site(not me!)that could even begin to use these types of rifles to their full potential!

5 years 22 weeks ago, 9:19 PM

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Am I one of the few that can use a sniper rifle to it full potential? LOL

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5 years 22 weeks ago, 10:18 PM

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why you call bullshit why cant i have one just cause i want one? isnt that one of the great things about this country. also im sure every great sniper or maybe just someone who is a good shot had to start from where. they didnt just pick it up and become gods among men. i dont me to start crap but thanks for your support

5 years 22 weeks ago, 10:59 PM

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Andrew530

The Remington 700 Varmint in 308 is a great rifle to start with. That is what I started with. Yes, you have to start off with something first. Best way to can a snipe rifle is a precision rifle. That is really what it is. It will not work with out the shooter. Feel free to ask more question about precision rifles, I love them. :)

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5 years 22 weeks ago, 12:19 PM

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I can

Use a sniper rifle to its full potintial.

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