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4 years 24 weeks ago, 7:17 AM

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Hey Everybody:

I am new to the site and am looking to purchase a new handgun that is able to use a sound suppressor. I live in NC so what I have read tells me they are legal here and I have found many sites that sell them. It seems that the H+K have very nice options for silencers. Anyone have experience and advice about what gun and silencer combination to buy? I want the caliber to be a minimum of 9mm but prefer larger for this gun. I have the trusty 12 guage for home protection but want to add a new layer and would like to use it for fun at the range as well.

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Tommy

4 years 24 weeks ago, 8:51 AM

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it would either be a 9mm or .45. You'll need a threaded barrel. If you ask the dealer who's selling it, they'll set you up with all the paper work. you'll have to pay the $200 stamp and wait a few months to get the final OK from the man.

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4 years 24 weeks ago, 2:23 PM

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If you plan on using the pistol as a semi-auto, and the pistol has the common Browning lockup (Glock,SW, HK, etc...most semiautos aside from Berettas do) then the suppressor will need to have a Nielsen device incorporated into it. This is an impulse-assist device made into the base of the suppressor.

Basically the weight of the suppressor, esp. the larger (and usually more efficient) cans, will prevent the pistol from cycling properly.

SIG also makes some suppressor-ready packages (raised sights, threaded barrel); they're usually $150-300 more than the standard model. Bachman Pawn and Gun here in Dallas sells cans and some of the can-friendly blasters.

I'd plan on spending at least $500 on the can, $200 for the mandatory federal tax stamp, $50-100 in dealer-assigned transfer fees, and $50-200 for barrel threading or new barrel....this in addition to the cost of the firearm. You should also be in no hurry as the aforementioned ATF approvals can take months.

A much easier and more affordable way to get into the suppressor game is to buy a $200-300 .22lr pistol and a $300 .22lr can.

4 years 24 weeks ago, 3:53 PM

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I would say a USP Tactical they come in .45 or 9x19mm(9MM). I dont have no expirence with the USP but I have read a few reviews on them and they seem to very good hand guns. But a bit on the pricey side maybe. Just my 2 cents worth.

4 years 22 weeks ago, 1:45 AM

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I have the USP Tactical in .40. although it is not a standard subsonic round... Advanced Armament and Gemtech makes nice suppressors that will screw right on... go to a range that has them for you to try out. Do not buy one from a place that will not let you try them out!

4 years 20 weeks ago, 6:02 PM

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I have a Gemtech on a Walther 22LR. Mine is a screw on but a couple of years later (around 2006) they brought out a model that has a quick connect feature (like a air tool hose coupling) that is sweet.

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4 years 20 weeks ago, 2:33 PM

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I have a HK USP Tactical 45.HK use to suggest a certain brand suppressor but not sure they are still in business.I believe the specs are similiar to a Knight's Armament,Gemtech also makes a pretty good product.That is what I am getting for my M4(quick-connect Halo).I have Sig 226 9MM suppressor ready,not sure right off what Sig suggests.The best prices I have found sofar are from Impact Arms.Ops Inc. model 12 are at the the top of the list too.You have to web search for best dealer for them.
I am also interested in finding more suppressor dealers if anyone has a list would love to see it.

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4 years 20 weeks ago, 2:48 PM

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I gotta ask,

Unless you are an assassin, why do you need a suppressor/silencer?
Do you live in a city where discharging a firearm is legal as long as you don't disturb anyone?
County ordinance? State Law?
I'm just wondering.

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4 years 20 weeks ago, 2:56 PM

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Ya' know whats cheaper

than a suppressor and a lot less headache to get?????
A pair of earphones at home depot for $14.....

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4 years 20 weeks ago, 3:25 PM

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I can understand wanting a supressor. I would love to have one. Seems like it would be a load of fun to shoot with one. However, for me, it's just not cost effective. There is nothing really useful for me to do with it. And I'd probably get over the novelty of it pretty quick. It's like wanting an fully automatic rifle, it would be cool, but not practicle at all for me. Now, what would really be grand, is to have a friend with a said suppressor or full auto, and get to shoot them at least once.

4 years 20 weeks ago, 6:34 PM

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Can't argue w/ either V or 88. Practical? Well no, especially if you look at the total cost. When I was younger, practical was much more important. Now, if I want something, I don't need a practical reason. One of the very few benifits of getting older!

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 9:07 PM

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I hunt predators and varmints for large horse farms and cattle farms in Kentucky where noise displine is very important to my customers.I also like to shoot on my farm where I don't want disturb my neighbors and their livestock.As far as cost they 're cheaper than most of the scopes I own.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 8:16 PM

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What caliber do you predator hunt with?
It is well known that the bullet breaking the sound barrier causes a louder "report" than the combustion of the gunpowder. Meaning, any bullet travelling over say 800 fps will have a bang , silencer or not. Hi powered rifles reaching 3 and 4k fps are incapable of being silenced in any circumstances. This is what I have read and heard from many knowledgeable sources.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 9:09 PM

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That is true,you never heard silence out of my mouth....I said noise displine.....I use 22Ir., 22/250,5.56mm,and 308.None are totally quiet but it makes a big difference in the sound.I also live in an urban/county govt. county and firearm firing is frowned upon.Most my horse farms are in this county and they are strict(even with a premit to shot).A lot of poeple call the police on the first report of a rifle.Even sub-soinc rounds can greatly be reduced in noise....sometimes around
as much 45 db's.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 8:42 PM

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Interesting. I was led to believe the 22/250, .308 and 5.56, etc. were going to make as much noise with a suppressor as without. Thanks, hell, I just might want one too!

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 8:54 PM

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That's a strong

That's a strong misconsception,they will be considerabily more quiet.THE BIGGEST tail is the term "silencer",commonly used by lay poeple who don't know any better,all you can do is "suppress" the report and it has many variables.The other misconsception is the cost,like i said most of my scopes cost more.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 9:04 PM

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By the way........I forgot to mention,you need to know if your state allows you own a suppressor.It is easy to find out......on-line state law books.Automatic weapons fall until the same issues of ownership.....most auto's call for FFL/class 4 for ownership.Suppressors just require a one time fed tax.And don't take it across state lines.

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