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6 years 3 weeks ago, 3:30 PM

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Springfield XD vs. XDM

I was just wondering, what is the difference between the XD and the XDM? Which one is better?

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 4:20 PM

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XD vs. XDM

the XDM is basically an improved XD. It is only offered in .40 though. It will run $100-$200 more than the XD depending on where you get it.
upgrades for XDM:
1. the XDM has a better quality match grade barrel (more accurate)
2. you can change the back strap on the grip for variation in grip size
3. has better recoil system (heavy duty guide rod spring)
4. has striker status indicator (to verify weapon is cocked)- may have this on origional XD, but not certain
5. has a MRT (minimal reset trigger) similar to sig's SRT (short reset trigger)- this is a great improvement for follow up shots.
6. deeper, longer slide grasp serrations for grip
7. more texture on polymer frame for better grip and control.
8. 16 rd. mag vs. 12 rds in the origional service model XD .40
The XD is a good weapon to start with, but with the improvements.. the XDM looks and feels awesome. just wish they had a .45ACP.

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 8:27 PM

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XDM

Does the XDM have a manual safety???

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 10:02 PM

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dont believe so. just an internal safety, grip safety and trigger safety.

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 10:40 AM

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XDM safety

just talked to my buddy who sells them. I asked him about the XDM manuel safety, he said... "it can... some do, some don't"

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 10:26 AM

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no

I am unaware of one.

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 5:33 PM

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I was watching

I was watching a show on the Outdoor Channel and they were talking about the XD(cant remember which show, but it was on the Wednesday Night @ the Range). They said that Springfield was coming out with an XD to "satisfy" these shooters that think the XD isnt as safe as sum of the other pistols because it doesnt have a manual safety.

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 12:25 PM

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Yet to shoot one

I have yet to shoot one but the XDM looks like a good pistol.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 3:47 PM

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9mm XDM just released. holds 19+1.
http://www.the-m-factor.com/

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 7:52 AM

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Manual Safety

From what I could see on the website that Reaper put up there is both a manual safety on the 9mm and .40 models for the XDM. I've been reading a bit up on this handgun in SoF Magazine that was sitting around out here. I've been thinking perhaps I might get this handgun, seems good enough and had good reviews, though then again I have little knowledge when it comes to handguns.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 8:24 AM

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A good pistol to start out with is a 1911. It has been around since 1911 and is very easy to learn and take apart to clean. The Springfield 1911A1 is a very good pistol I have owned 2 of them. Shot IPSC with them and put about 180,000 rounds thru them in 8 years of shooting matches with them.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 12:11 PM

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just my advice

I disagree...1911's are great pistols, I love mine, but I don't recommend them for starter pistols. glocks, XD's, XDM's, sigs, M&P's etc... are much easier to fieldstrip and maintain. 1911 must stay very clean and lubed to perform they way they are suppose to. glocks, XD's etc... can shoot great dry and even when they're fairly dirty. they are so simple to fieldstrip and clean... ANYONE can do it. even ebear. then buy a good 1911 as a second pistol.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 8:50 PM

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XDM safety

all models of the XDm's are available with an external safety. it is not needed in my opinion. there is already a grip safety and a trigger safety. same as glock. it would be very hard to have an accidental discharge. i have both the XD, and the XDm and there aren't many others that can compete. another nice function of the XDm is that you do not have to dry fire it to field strip it. thats another safety.

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5 years 43 weeks ago, 8:40 PM

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XDM .45 needed next

I have both XDM guns, now I just need to wait for the .45. I wonder what the capacity will be on an XDM .45? Any guesses? I'm guessing 14+1

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but damned if I can remember. Let me look quick. I may be wrong on this too.

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5 years 43 weeks ago, 8:51 PM

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Nevermind, I didn't.

There is a writeup on the XD(m) in the Sept. issue of American Rifelman, but it only covers the 9mm and .40. It does give some ballistics on the .45 for some reason even though they say they tested the .40. So to shorten a long explanation, I have no idea.

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4 years 45 weeks ago, 11:17 PM

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My newphew has a 45 and the ammo is very hard to find
There's only 1 place that has it and they do not carry that much and wallmart does have it here but you can only buy 2 boxs of ammo there so I buy it somewhere else that does not limit how much you
I looked for 3 weeks now and finally found 2 boxs.
Do you have any idea where you can get 45 ammo -Would cabellas sells it I would have to drive a long way to get it.

5 years 25 weeks ago, 12:04 AM

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Is this handgun available in california. Rounds?

4 years 45 weeks ago, 10:57 PM

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Hi

I just bought one for my husband and on the case it says
not for sale in california
From what I know in california your magazine can only hold 10
This gun made 2009 top gun and I think its an excellent choice I picked a 9mm I thought about getting 40.
Do you know anything about reload shell or ammo is it any good?
Have a great night:)

5 years 25 weeks ago, 1:15 PM

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It would appear

on the springfeild site that the .45 is avaiable 14+1 i clicked on their catolog and the secound page is a calander if you scroll down there she is!!

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 1:16 PM

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oops

nevermind that appears to be th XD not the XDm

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 1:32 PM

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I believe

cali only allows you to have 10 rd mags

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 9:33 AM

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High Cap mags

Reaper308 wrote:
cali only allows you to have 10 rd mags

this is true. It is illegal to sell, offer for sale, lend, give or import into the state. It is a felony unless you are a peace officer. It is covered under 12020(a)(2) P.C.

They have not made a civlian model of the XDM here yet. So far I have seen it only for sale to the LE market in California.

5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:30 PM

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but I'm not sure how the law reads. A dealer cannot ship a 30 round mag into Kalifornia, but the mags also don't have a manufacturing date on them. I'm not sure whether the rule is after a specified date, thereby allowing older mags, or if it is an outright ban on ANY 10+ round mag. Of course, it's a naive rule. It takes a whole second to drop an empty and jam in a full. If some dirt bag is bent on mayhem, 10 round mags aren't going to change a damn thing.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 3:10 PM

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This is exactly what pisses me off about the whole ten round issue. All you need is more mags to accomplish the same thing whatever it may be-WTF I hate Kalifornia liberal bulls--t

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 3:14 PM

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good videos

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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The mighty CA Bear shall never cast it's eyes upon me. The folks I know with XD and XDMs' really like them. This safety thing though u got to think about.
During the "stress thing", the last hurdle to overcome should not be another f---ing safety. Just getting the pointing and pulling the trigger thing is enough when everything goes into slow motion. Thinggg; has a ring to it.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 3:36 PM

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He lives near Monterey and haz a zillion firearms. He says it's illegal for anyone to SHIP a 10+ round mag TO Kalifornia. It's illegal for anyone to GIVE (or sell) one to anyone else, but it's not illegal to POSSESS a 10+ round mag. How's THAT for legal reasoning?

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 5:52 PM

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I just got an XDM 9mm, and Love it. My other gun is a Glock 27 (compact 40cal), it shoots and feels so nice that i started carrying it instead of the Glock..
I have put a couple hundred rounds through it in the last 2 weeks and never a jam or misfire.. (American Eagle ammo)
I think this is a great gun.
I didnt think I'd like a 9mm, but I have changed my mind on them.
Plus you get so much stuff with it you cant go wrong.
Thumbs up!!

FYI: It says right on the carry case that this gun is not legal for sale in Cal.

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I just bought one

I bought one for my husband for Christmas but I will be shooting it if I can get it to fit my hand.
I hope this is a good christmas present.
Have a great night:)

5 years 25 weeks ago, 7:46 PM

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Training is the key with manual safeties. I have carried a Beretta for years now and my training, both in the army and on my own, has gotten me in the habit of taking it off safe as I draw from the holster. People have asked me if my holster flips the safety (some holsters, especially Bianchi, have been know to do it), but it's just second nature now. Manual safeties aren't too bad.

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FYI: Mine does not have a manual safty. I also haven't seen that feature on the new XCM 9 or 40. Not saying there isn't one, just I haven't seen it yet.

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Hello All,
I just bought my first gun. I went with the xdm 9mm OD, because the 9mm ammo was so much cheaper than other caliber ammo. I have shot it at the range and really like it so far. I had so much fun that I bought a .22lr from a friend to plink away with at the range.
I do have a question about the xdm 9mm I was hoping someone here could help me answer. The case that came with the gun has a precut foam insert that holds the gun, a holster, mag pouch, gun lock, 2 magazines, 2 back straps, a speed reloader. It also has precut section that hasn't been removed in the lower left corner when your looking at the open case. I wanted to know if any one knew what that was supposed to hold?
Thanks,

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mabey for ammo?

or a nucleur detination switch to end the suffering

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if they are pre-cut slits, they are suppose to hold your magazines

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The Basics

The latest iteration of the SF XD is the XD(m). This model is the brainchild of an ACTION SHOOTING GOD (Rob Letham). He shot his way to the dance with the infamous 1911, now there are a few similarities from the 1911 to the XD series pistol, but for the most part they are very different. The reason I am confident in the XD(m) is that Rob Letham has adopted what in in reality his own version of the original XD into his competition shooting. This says a lot about the gun without saying much. The XD(m) a few years old (Much newer to novice shooters though) It was created as an update to the XD for which Dave Williams (Springfield Custom Shop) is generally creditied. The slide has been reshaped implementing grasping grooves that gives more traction on the slide. The frame of the XD(m) has borrowed the idea of interchangeable backstraps from Smith & Wesson's M&P (3 changable straps just like M&P) so for those of you who say they like the M&P over the XD because your hands are tiny like a school girl (like mine), well now the XD(m) has the same features.

Springfield will say that the internals are sufficiently different and you will need additional instruction above and beyond what you know about the original XD, but if your logical and have a nack for gun tinkering, Im not thinking your gonna have a huge problem with the functionality differnces as it pertains to cleaning and upkeep.

As mentioned above, you do not need to pull the trigger anymore. All gun manufacturers are starting to understand that this is a good feature if you want to market to the LE community. After all it was an LE requirement that made Smith & Wesson add that functionality to their M&P.

The 5.25 Factor

The XD(m) subscribes to the idea of BIGGER IS BETTER and by bigger we mean barell length which in turn is really all about having a longer sight radius. In Rob Lethams mind, that additional 3/4 of an inch reall hits the G-Spot of precision targeting. The original XD touts a modest 4.5 barrel. Also the XD(m) has a Match barrel for better precision and stamina by the way of a stronger guide rod. The barrel pushes right up against the competitive shooting limit for barrel length and will also place you in the Enhanced Service Pistol Division of IDPA so check with your Competition Shooting Authority to find out what class this pistol will put you into or if it is even legal. For instance, Glock's own shooting discipline, GSSF (Glock Sport Shooting Foundation) the Tactical/Practical, 17L and G24 are required to compete seperately from the 4.5 and shorter barrel models. A contestant can use them only Competition and Unlimited divisions. A Police officer shooting in Guardian class, or an ordinary contestant in Civilian class and even a top shot in Master Stock, is forbidden to use anything longer than 4.5" as it is seen as an unfair advantage. BUT WHEN IT's ALLOWED the XD(m) is EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO BE PACKIN!

It's proven that when it comes to sight radius, being LONGER is STRONGER and decreases human error in aiming. AND NORMALLY extra length translates into being MUZZLE-HEAVY. But let's think for a minute. Would Rob Letham have anything on his baby that gave him a disadvantage? Hell to the NIZZZO! Rob said cut me a big ole hole in the front of that there slide so I can WHIP IT GOOD from target to target! So the front end is lighter than a lead feather. (wait, does that make sense?) The point is, with added length came added weight and they countered that with a cutaway in the top of the slide and ports on either side of the front sight take away enough steel to do the job. BRILLIANT! Dont credit Rob Letham and Dave Williams with the cutaway idea though. Glock has been doing the same thing with their long guns. Hell, Glock even has two 6" barrel guns (G17L & G24) that shoots well because of this cutaway idea. But let's get back to the XD(m)

How accurate is it?

The gun has caught attention to the competition shooting community which is a no brainer.

Gail Pepin (Pro-Arms Podcast) Former state champ and (Petite in stature) current FL/GA Regional woman's champ in IDPA has became a huge fan of the standard XD(m), hers with a Springfield Custom Trigger Job used it to win her current woman's championship title at the 2011 National Tactical Conference in Tulsa and at 5ft tall with tiny hands said after the first time shooting one ever "I want one, I want one , I want 10".

Massad Ayoob can place 5 shots from 25 yards in a 1.75" group, four of those being exactly within 1" and the 3 best at a pleasing .65" using Rem-UMC 147 grain FMJ.

Rob Letham shot his brainchild in the2011 meet. Letham won the IDPA ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) division withi it and placed 2nd in the Prduction Class. It has been confirmed by Robert Ray that the XD(m) is welcome for the IDPA as an ESP.

Multiple 5.25's were in the field at the Sept 2011 IDPA World Championships, held at Frank Garcia's Universal Shooting Academy in Frostproof, FL and it's also confirmed that a rising star of the handgun workd, 5 Gun Master Caleb Giddings, had used a 5.25" XD(m) in 9mm to win the World Champion in the Press category.

John Strayer (IDPA 5 Gun Master who owns Pro-Arms Gun Shop in Live Oak, FL) say's "It's a tack-driver out of the box and is not picky about most ammo: 115, 124 and 147 grainall go where you aim them. I'll be shooting the XD(m) in my next IDPA match"

All kidding and plagerizing aside, I have been contemplating my next purchase specifically for a gun that I can use in IDPA. I am dead set on a Smith & Wesson M&P with a smaller barrel for use in the Stock Service Pistol Division of IDPA, but I have just set aside some more money for the XD(m) and I plan to get one and use it in the Enhanced Service Pistol Division as well. I am sold and it takes a lot to sell me as I research everything, I think the XD in the first place is a very well thought out gun, better than the American guns coming out. Just as I BELIEVE the M&P has designs implemented that exceed the Glock design I also BELIEVE that the XD(m) one ups the M&P in design and function. This was one smart Croation who developed the XD model and the XD(m) has had some of the brightest MATCH SHOOTERS and SPRINGFIELD HIGHER UPS have demanded great improvements for the XD(m). Eat it GLOCK!

Information in this post is my opinion and other information was acquired from facts from the GUNS MAGAZINE article entitled:
LONG SLIDE MAGIC
Springfield Armory XD(m) 5.25

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Forgive the cheap humor.. Good article due to your giving accreditation for the original.

We don't have any formal rules, but informally our site edicate places major emphasis on giving credit to the source.. You did and now the fun starts as im sure a lot of Glock guys are going to come out of the wood work..

When you guys have all fired off your 20 round magazines, and sprayed the country side down with FMJ rounds. scaring the hell out of birds and various field animals.. When your mag feed lips are sagging like an elderly women's bosom (where do i get this shit.. its you's guys fault).. When your feed ramps have been gunked up and all we hear is "I HAVE A FTF" .. "I'VE GOT A FTE".. When the autumn (see it gets worse) air is filled with cries of "TAP AND RACK"..

When the zombies are cresting yonder hill (worser maybe) Then, when all looks lost...

LLE, Daisy, Vaq, and myself (anyone else blessed with a cylinder) will calmly pull out our revolvers.. put site between notch.. press contentedly on the trigger, knowing EVERY round will go down range and save the day..

ahh.. ok guess this is exhibit B in that gunslot case huh..

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from an SA six shooter, never having had lessons from Doc Holliday, is a worrisome thing!!

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greg az wrote:

"When you guys have all fired off your 20 round magazines, and sprayed the country side down with FMJ rounds. scaring the hell out of birds and various field animals.. When your mag feed lips are sagging like an elderly women's bosom (where do i get this shit.. its you's guys fault).. When your feed ramps have been gunked up and all we hear is "I HAVE A FTF" .. "I'VE GOT A FTE".. When the autumn (see it gets worse) air is filled with cries of "TAP AND RACK"..

When the zombies are cresting yonder hill (worser maybe) Then, when all looks lost...

LLE, Daisy, Vaq, and myself (anyone else blessed with a cylinder) will calmly pull out our revolvers.. put site between notch.. press contentedly on the trigger, knowing EVERY round will go down range and save the day..

ahh.. ok guess this is exhibit B in that gunslot case huh"..

This had me in tears (at work thanks Greg)...Mr Edwards, you sir have outdone yourself....LOL!

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did you see my new addition? http://www.gunslot.com/forum/hamps-new-concealed-carry-piecelol

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Hamp de "non" tramp..

Hamp, im embarrassed to say i hadn't seen the post.. Notice most of them were from that period 5 days ago when we were a touch under the weather.. So starting from the top.. Love the gun, love the post.. i was looking at the link and got suckered in ..thought i would see one of the little Rugers or Smiths.. A big time jaw dropper.. As always your taste in all things weaponry.. and betting all things period is perfect.. Congratulations.. On the issue of using 45Colt stuff, all that i've read goes with the dealer.. I don't see the spin as being as big an issue as the gap between round and forcing cone.. Believe thats 1/10 of an inch longer correct.. The same as a 38 to 357.. but of course some 100 gr heavier.. Either way wonderful.. and liked that comment from margaritaville.. bragging rights for dropping a moose with your back up ..great stuff..

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2 years 35 weeks ago, 4:08 PM

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But do I like it?

I have not shot it. I have shot the M&P quite a bit and I'm a Glock guy. looking to open my mind a bit and get some new guns. Ready to take the SA XD(m) plunge. I'm pretty sure I said that. So I Can't tell you if I like it. It's kind of like my favorite Artist. I don't thave the ability to listen to the album before I buy it. I just have to go out and bite the bullet. WOrse case senario, I get one (XD(m)) and I hate it. Then I can just sell it. I don't rally think I will NOT LIKE IT. I can usually get a good idea of a gun by simply researching, reading forum posts about the XD(m) and when I get it I can make most alterations myself like trigger job and sights to make it my own. Im assuming I am going to love it. I didn't really understand what you were saying about feed lips etc.. I'm the type of guy who completely dissasembles my guns everytime I get back from shooting and running more than a few hundred rouds through it. so my lips are not gonna get like an elderly bosom. Also Im not really interested in how others act here on the forum or what the etiquette is as my information was pretty informative and did not in my eyes break any intorweb rules that I know of.

2 years 35 weeks ago, 4:12 PM

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EricXL

you're good to go.

I think the XDm is a solid piece. I just happen to prefer the other two that you mentioned.

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2 years 35 weeks ago, 4:13 PM

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Also I really do hope the Glock guys come out of the wood work, because I bet you Im more of a glock guy than they are. One thing Im not is someone who is not able to open mindedly look at another gun or platform and be objective about reviewing it or giving others info on it which is what I believe we were doing here in this thread. I would never disperse info directly from another article and not credit that article as I want whoever is reading it to be able to read the same article themselves if they think I am being one sided. Really though. Im not even a GLock guy. I just have a few, really love mine the way they are configured and am more of a GUN guy. I like everything about ALL guns, even revolvers, BUT, I didn't think we were talking about revolvers here.

2 years 35 weeks ago, 4:14 PM

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Reap on!

Reaper! I like your style.

2 years 35 weeks ago, 4:20 PM

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Oops

Greg AZ, I misread your post. I think I came back at you kind of dickish. AOrry if it seems that way. I thought you said I wasn't following ettiquete or something. But you didnt say that. Im a bit high strung and sometimes read too fast. Still lost about what you are saying about scaring wild animals as there are no wild animals in my area. But I think I get what your saying. Your trusty six shooter is all you need and us semi-auto silly heads with our endless clips flipping through the IDPA match and Blasting well over our targets carelessly are not as efficient as you real cowboys! Or something like that?

2 years 35 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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Eric, 'ol buddy Greg

was just taking a little "dig" at autos, threads around here rarely stay 'on topic' much to some's chagrin.

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first off i was giving you a compliment for giving credit (the accreditation word) and it's ok to be a tad.. hum how did you say that .."came back at you kind of dickish". ha ha.. The post was all satire Eric..

Click on the Geezer and you can go to my profile and get a handle on what i am, and what i shoot.. Mostly revolvers, but spent a couple decades with AZ's DOC and had to Q with Glocks for the last half of my career..

Your post was sure to bring out the Glocke'rs so i figured i'd write something comical about revolvers (thanks Hamp. ) .. The auto / revolver talk was unrelated in any way shape or form to you.. Ok.. what else .. hmmm i don't say worser or yous guys.. ok guess that covers it..

"came back at you kind of dickish"... that makes up for NOT FUCKING READING.. I'm laughing Eric.. thats a joke.. I did like what you posted, and glad you gave credit..Also glad your a serious shooter.. so welcome aboard, we need more shooters to balance the "off balance"..

love to all..(it's valentines day, and thats a joke to Eric).. the welcome to the site is serious.

Ok troops.. God bless all, will see ya in a couple.. V day and time to spend with Gloria..

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2 years 35 weeks ago, 9:59 PM

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Been playing with one for the last two months. It shoot fine, is accurate and the trigger isn't all that bad.

Rather like the XD 45 more though and the HS2000 even more than that.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 35 weeks ago, 11:09 PM

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We're pretty well blessed with the two son-n-laws, father to our Gkids is a serious hunter, and the middle girl married a gun nut not unlike ourselves.. He's also doing the buy and trade thing a lot. The deal started with an XD Springfield 40.. I loved this gun.. Have no experience with the M model but enough thru the XD to say it's one sweet gun... Oh yeah he bought it at Cabela's and it came with a kydex holster and mag carrier, as well as two extra mags.. This was a used purchase, of a NIB gun so i don't know if ANY of that was standard on the XM..

Ok so after a month or so he says i should have listened to you about size, originally i had wanted him to get a single stack 9, cheaper, and he wants to use it for our new AZ CC.. After firing the XD and loving it, i tried to talk him into keeping the piece.. nope he wants a CC (the XM is 1911 size of course) Next time they came up he had traded (at a loss) for a Beretta storm in 40.. I don't even like the gun.. Tiny little row hammer that slips thru your fingers..Not only that but the storm (to me) has a sorta futuristic look that i just can't get excited about..

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See y'all later

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2 years 35 weeks ago, 1:26 AM

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yawl have a good one!!

,,

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 32 weeks ago, 10:25 AM

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I recently

purchased an XDM and love it. It's got all the best features of the Glock and the 1911. My new carry gun!

2 years 31 weeks ago, 10:04 PM

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my son, purchased an xdm 3.8 compact in 9mm from a local dealer brand new. and had problems from the get go! using factory ammo he had all sorts of stoppages and malfunctions. allowing for a break in period ( 500-600 rounds) did not improve the situation. a crack appeared in the upper portion of the lower reciever just below the slide. we sent it back to springfield and they said a hot round caused the damage, which was bullshit. i am a retired police officer, swat team commander, eod specialist., nra police firearms instructer, match competitor, and have fired several million rounds in my lifetime ( age 60 ) and i know a hot round when one occurs! i have seen every known malfunction that can occur with a handgun (catastrophic detonation. slide seperrations, mags blown out of wells, etc.) so i know a little about what does happen when a hand gun fails. springfield declined to elaborate on how they reached thier conclusion, so i know this is some technicians opinion, based on observation not fact. my examination of the frame rails show that the polymer at that particular location is very thin, paper thin to be exact. the slide is massive ( several ounces heavier than a glock slide) so i am beginning to think that this may not provide enough support and stability concerning recoil forces when the firing cycling process occurs. spring field is tight -lipped about this and was quick to blame the problem on some one else! anyone out there know of similar probs along these lines?

2 years 31 weeks ago, 1:36 AM

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and it went *poof* when I attempted to post it.

got any pictures of the cracked frame?

btw: the XD forum has info on this...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 31 weeks ago, 1:48 AM

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you should know that being with a LEO back ground...

We had an Officer die last year because the rear internal rails on the ass end of his Duty Glock 22 cracked in half and the slide was left hanging leaving him with junk in his hand as a 16 year old punk shot him and killed him...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 31 weeks ago, 1:02 AM

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XDM Cracked Frame

I did not say glock was failure-free. any gun can fail! I was trying to see if anyone else had a similar problem? SORRY about the OFFICER. I have had to bury many of my co-workers over the years.

2 years 21 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

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First off, recommendations for a gun for you to buy should always be taken with a grain of salt. Your hand size, finger length, and natural habits will play a big part in choosing what's right for you. Whenever possible test-fire as many guns as you can, put it in a holster and walk around, and practice draw and fire, etc. (after you have been taught the basics). Having said that:

I love my XDm. I love that Springfield includes a pretty solid case as well (most don't and it's a nice $40.00 case).
This is a very comfortable and accurate handgun.
I wanted to point out that (depending on where you live) you can get conversion barrels (go from a .40 to a 9mm etc.) as well as magazine extensions (16 +1 to 25 +1) (if you're really serious and especially for competitors).
Accurate, easy to break-down and clean, comfortable to carry, and you can add just about anything if you like or keep it neat and simple like I prefer.
I'd recommend the XDm as a first handgun, but I'd advise a newbie to try the 9mm first.
I'd also say the 1911 has certainly proven itself and needs no new accolades from me, either way, it's win/win for you.

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