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3 years 22 weeks ago, 5:08 PM

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Stricter Gun Laws. Will they keep you safer.

3 years 22 weeks ago, 5:21 PM

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Nope

Case and point

Stricter gun laws will limit who will can have a gun. For example us law abiding gun owners will have harder time buying gun's hence if they cannot get a gun then they cannot protect themselves or if an intruder breaks in there home they wont be able to defend there place of peace with a firearm which would most likely get the home owner killed or hurt badly.

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3 years 22 weeks ago, 5:36 PM

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I agree

You are right on Snake. Since this thing in AZ the bleeding heart gun hating shit is spreading like wildfire across the country. Saw this article today:

It seems that everyone wants to get in the act of banning or controlling the firearms that are held by
decent Americans. The latest try is coming from the dumb mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg.
He authorized his operatives with a $100,000 bankroll to infiltrate guns shows with set-up buyers
from New York in an effort to buy guns illegally. These transactions were to be covered by hidden
cameras.
The most disgusting effort by this bunch was to enter an Arizona gun show, just weeks after
the shooting that killed 6 people and wounded the Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Hired undercover
investigators by Bloomberg from New York went to the Phoenix gun show, bought 9mm guns,
even stated they might not pass the background check. Many sellers were not required to perform
background checks, but should not have sold the weapons if there was any question about passing
the check.
Bloomberg and his “task force” have no legal authority outside of New York and these “missions” to
entrap gun dealers at gun shows outside the state of New York are unlawful. To attempt to con gun
show sellers to subvert the law with “set-up” buyers would not be illegal since the “set-up” buyers
were not felons, minors or drug abusers. Further, the U.S. Justice Dept. informed Bloomberg in 2007
that such civilian operations risk “legal liabilities” and can interrupt or jeopardize ongoing criminal
investigations.
Bloomberg has conceded that most of guns used in New York crime are either gotten in the city
or came in from neighboring states. Bloomberg is the head of a national coalition of mayors
advocating stronger gun laws. This pretty much indicates his mind set. According to N.Y. Police
Commissioner, Raymond Kelly, “about 90% of the 5000 guns confiscated by city police this last
year were from out of state.
Illegal gun sales at gun show are not good for the legal gun owners and should not be tolerated,
however, unlawfully setting up a dealer to break the law can have dire consequences as well. A
felon, drug user or the like has to buy a gun in order for the sale to be illegal. The law protects both
sides and should be respected.

WHAT A CROCK OF BULLSHIT!!!

3 years 22 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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Yes I do agree. just keep you're ears and eye open. because there is something comeing.

3 years 22 weeks ago, 9:46 PM

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The Bradey Bill was the worse but it got overturned.

Set Bloomberg up in a prostitute ring and be rid of him

A set up is a set up

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3 years 22 weeks ago, 8:14 PM

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Daley is gonna be out in the Windy City. Don't know what to think of this Raul guy thats running for mayor. He's buddies with .Mr. Obama. can this be a good thing for Chicago gun owners???

3 years 22 weeks ago, 9:01 PM

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Raul or

Rahm Emanuel? Rahm is a former Obama cabinet member that quit to run for mayor,he's about as crooked as they get there.

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3 years 21 weeks ago, 12:36 AM

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I don't believe so

That's the plain and simple of it. Sometime in the 60's or 70's a popular saying came up, "When guns are outlawed; Only outlaws will have guns!" This gave rise to the ever popular "They'll take my guns from my COLD DEAD HANDS!" As the politicians make it harder for law-abiding citizens to buy firearms, gun related violence increases. I believe this is because the criminals are less afraid of being shot if they get caught.

Case in point,

Look up the Odessa American newspaper online. There is a story posted there right now of a man who was shot early friday morning. As it turns out, A guy across town woke up about 4:00AM and went outside to find three people stealing from his work truck. He fired several rounds at the chevy astro they attempted to escape in. Police responded to a 911 call reporting gunshots. A few hours later the police responded to a report of a man who had been shot. The man who had been shot was pronounced dead at about 7:14AM. His stepbrother and sister-in-law were arrested on the spot for theft of copper. The guy who did the shooting has (so far) not been charged with any wrongdoing. It should be noted that the address where the shooting occured has reported thefts twice in the last few months. Once in November and once at the end of Jan. One of the neighbors said that the police had said they were patroling the area but he had never seen them.

The guy who was shot and killed was reportedly shot in the face. With the information I have so far, I think he was shot when the van was speeding away. There are some pics attached to the article. One of them is a pic of the van. The guy was a pretty good shot. Three holes in I'm guessing about a 2 inch group. Looks like either 38/357 or 9mm holes to me but could be .40 or .45s. Looks to me like there are probably 5-7 shots but the article only reports the neighbors hearing about 3. Another pic shows part of the inside of the van and it has lots of blood. The other pictures are of the guy who was shot (a mug shot from several months ago), his stepbrother, and the stepbrother's wife who were both arrested and the man's stepmother and nephew.

Near the end of the article, the stepmom says that the force used was "brutal and unnecessary!" I'm sorry lady, if he was stealing from this man's truck, he got what he deserved. The police have said that the investigation is ongoing and they have not yet decided if they will take it to a grand jury, or charge him (the shooter). I hope they decide it is a justifiable shooting and don't do anything with it.

To find this article, hover over the news tab, click on crimestoppers, then look under the "most viewed" heading. The article probably won't be there for long, but if you see this in the next couple of days, you will probably be able to find it. The title of the article is "One dead after early morning shooting (+ photos)." To read the comments, click on the same title under the "Most commented" heading. I think there are some interesting comments there.

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