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5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:43 PM

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Student fights college on suspension over gun

Story Published: Feb 27, 2009 at 2:08 PM PST

Story Updated: Feb 28, 2009 at 1:15 PM PST
By Melica Johnson, KATU News and KATU.com Staff Video MONMOUTH, Ore. - A Western Oregon University student suspended in January from school for carrying a gun and knife on campus wants university officials to know he thinks his punishment was not legal.

Jeff Maxwell doesn't plan to go away quietly following the suspension. He's pushing back on the university’s weapons policy.

A rally for Maxwell took place in Salem on Friday in support of Maxwell.

“They can’t just run over people like this. You can’t just make up your own rules to trump state law,” Maxwell told KATU News.

He says he wasn't breaking any laws and that the school was in the wrong. He was carrying a knife and gun in a building on campus. A charge against him was later dropped but he was suspended from the school.

Maxwell, who is an ex-Marine, has a concealed handgun license allowing him to legally carry a firearm in public places.

But universities across the state have a "no-weapons" rule on campus. The conflict lies between the university's decision not to allow weapons and a state law that, some say, supersedes university rules.

Maxwell plans to fight to see that state law is upheld and that anyone with a concealed handgun license can carry a weapon on Oregon college campuses.

The school has told Maxwell he must write a paper and submit to a mental evaluation before he can return to classes.

Maxwell is appealing that decision.

Two local Republican politicians have written letters in support of Maxwell and asked school officials to abide by state laws.

5 years 38 weeks ago, 10:16 PM

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The state does not see the difference between legal gun owners and criminals. When I was in school I saw lots of firearms from scumbages trying to sell dope on campus. I never carried because of the law, but the criminals do not care.
The drug dealers would know when financial aid checks were released and the kids had money. These kids thought the dealers were their friends.
I was older, saw the dealers for what they were.
So we have guns and drugs on campus- real safe. But I could not have my weapon with me.
I would get looks when I wore my uniform, but the dealers were welcome...fucked up state

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 11:44 PM

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Sounds normal

Only the criminals have the right to carry I see.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:42 AM

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the guy with a weapons permit went throug a background check. the professors have not or they would know. we need lawfull carrys on all school campusses, hope i spelled that right or you might know what i think about 24-7. Then students with the balls could take care of business when needed. remember when one carries, it has to be concealed, so that no one knows that you are armed. all teachers, need to be educated in a concealed carry class, pay there fees,learn the states gun laws, and realize their are laws on the books to take care of all the magots that shoot up schools. More gun laws are NOT needed. the system needs to inforce the laws that are in place now. boys and girls i'll get off the soap box. I thank the dear Lord for our founding fathers to whom were inspired by Heavenly Father to write and put into place the Documents of our Country, so that our dear commander and cheif can RAPE them.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 8:07 AM

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wished someone else had a gun with them. It's amazing that the idiots out there don't make this connection between "gun-free" zones and mass shootings. I don't understand why the vice principal in Pearl, MS wasn't hailed as a hero on national news for stopping the kid's rampage with his 45, or why the off-duty cop at the mall in Utah hasn't gotten more recogition for him saving lives with his Kimber.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 12:40 PM

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Is why we never hear these stories on the news! Have ever noticed anytime there is a news story on almost any crime, they flash a pic of a gun on the screen. Pisses me off!!

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 1:56 PM

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Runaway well said

I could not agree with you more on his one. The damn media needs to show these people as heros because of the lifes they saved. Teachers should carry concealed, but only after they are trained properly. Some nut head kid brings a gun to school starts shooting and Mr. Jones drops him in his tracks before the kid gets a fullmag off. Sounds good to me.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 12:45 PM

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And the gun they flash

is usually an AK when the crime was committed with a pistol

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:05 PM

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The sad thing is that parent of some of the kids in Pearl, MS were calling for the vice principal to be fired because he had a gun in his truck. The kid was on his way to the elementary school to continue the shooting spree with 36 rounds of .30-30 in his pocket when the vice principal stood out in the road and pointed his 45 at the windshield, causing the kid to veer and wreck. The man saved more lives, of that there is no doubt. And parents wanted him fired.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:14 PM

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Our media did not even report on this, what a surprise. Do you know if he able to keep his job? If he did not I hope he sues their asses off, and the NRA better stand behind him threw the case. Hell I would be willing to contribute money to that case, and I bet many other gunners would too.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:33 PM

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Think about this

If everyone carried a gun, I think there would be a drop in crime every where. Maybe then some dumb ass would think twice before doing some dumb ass shit!!!

5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:35 PM

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Violent, confrontational crimes go down, but nonconfrontational property crimes increase slightly. Think robbery versus burglary. Criminals don't stop being criminals, they just commit other crimes.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:38 PM

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As far as I know, he kept his job. It's disgusting to me to think about those parents' ability to look at him as a bad person. Those are the same fucking parents who "respect their child's privacy" or use time out and count to three when their kid is throwing a tantrum in Wal-Mart.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 6:25 PM

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Runawaygun
Very well said people should recognize him as a hero for saving those childrens lives rather than trying to get him fired for having a gun in his truck. That is fucking bullshit.

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