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2 years 22 weeks ago, 1:50 PM

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looking for american made glass at a reasonable price -300$ for my AR15.thinking of using a leupold vxI with long range reticle for about 250$.this is not a competition gun,its a multi use tool for predators targets defense.utilitarian all the way so i want it to be able to handle shock fog and rain.leupold seems to be the best bet for me. any AMERICAN or possibly european made suggestions welcome.thanks!

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 4:10 PM

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sounds like the leupy fits your requirements, although I would double check to make sure the VX line is made in U.S., I think they make some stuff overseas.

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 4:18 PM

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jay

another option to look at

http://leatherwoodoptics.com/

I'm actually looking at the CMR for my AR. Billy ordered two from Natchez,com they have/had them on sale. I'm waiting to shoot one of his AR's with it to see how I like it.

Did shoot an AR with the 1-4x24 600 BDC Nikon and that was pretty nice too.

It is a toss up between those two for me.

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 7:32 PM

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have you ever used a viper pst 1-4x24? I'm probably going to end up with one very shortly. reviews seem good.

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 8:10 PM

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haven't used one but was looking through one last month. Really like it allot, but the price is prohibitive for me at this time.

SWFA has one for under $500.00 right now though.

I really like the reticle on it, center circle looks like it would be fast for up close both eyes open. I played with it at the store a bit, that and a couple of others.

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 8:24 PM

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american scopes

anyone know about redfield?owned by leupee,n made in america they advertise...talked to a guy at leupold,says 2-7x33 or 3-9x40 would be great for me for yotes n such out at 3-400 like i asked.if i buy the off the shelf long range reticle it will be very close for most 55gr 223 loads,but will require range time and won't be 100% perfect for every load(of course).as far as i know all leupold,but defiantly the vx1 scopes are american.

thanks for your input guys.isd...talked to nikon and burris a while ago,and most are made in the philipines,as well as cabbalas/pine ridge.glass is tricky...never been much into optics,but more and more american names are going overseas,and not to reputable european glass grinders,or even japan!am i being overly picky?my goal is a good light transfer,waterproof fog proof shockproof scope with a good forever/faultless type warranty ill never have to use(i hope).buying american feels good,especially since its an american designed,american made receiver,american made components assembled by an american for an american.....(ME).

also should i even be concerned with holdover points,or should i just learn to "wing it"?never had a tactical,or any scope with holdover marks before,and i know its just a convenience but it seems like it would help me quickly get on target(predators is my concern)don't usually get lots of thime to think and make adjustments.
as always thanks gunslot

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 8:18 PM

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BTW,if anyone has info that leupold vx1 scopes are outsourced please don't be shy!let me know.hate being an ignoramus.

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2 years 22 weeks ago, 8:33 PM

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jay i think this is

what you want to look out for as well,if your buying used for sure be aware http://www.leupold.com/tactical/resources/counterfeit-warning/

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2 years 21 weeks ago, 10:17 AM

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commie knock offs

wow,those communist bastards are always up to something!good find,thanks lucky!wasnt planing on buying used,but we all know what can happen when buying on the net...ill have a serial number check done before i buy,if i buy from ebay or other online only shop.thanks again,(best GI JOE impression here)"knowing is half the battle!"

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 8:05 AM

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Redfield..

I have a redfield scope that I use for hunting... I'm pretty sure it was made in the US, but not 100%. Optics are great, carries Leopold's lifetime warrenty, and about 1/2 the price of Leopold.

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

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thanks ronin.thought about red field(especially since leupold owns them now...they are made in use,oregon somewhere...what model do u have,and what was the price?been thinking of using leupold vx1 2-7 or 3-9,maybe with factory (long range)drop points,but prob just wide reticle.redfield was one i thought about too,but don't know anyone but my dad that has one,and his is oooold.haha.

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 5:27 PM

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Jay..

I have the Redfield revolution 4-12X40. Think I paid right at 300.00 for it, and IMHO worth every penny. It has proven rugged, holds a good zero (even when knocked around) and is balls-on accurate! Optical clarity and light gathering properties are good (atleast to my eyes) and i feel has every bit of the leupold quality.

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 6:30 PM

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got some glass.

went to the opening of sportsman's wear house,and picked up a leupold vx1 3-9x40 with a long range drop point reticle pn (61255) for $199,marked down they say from $230. $227-250 was the cheapest i had found these online for and still woulda had 2 pay shipping in most cases,and as lucky pointed out some online companies have been selling knock offs.thanks to all who gave their 2 cents on this issue.now i just gota find a good mount,and decide on a low pro gas block and make the swap from iron sights with a carbine hand guard to optic with rifle length free float hand guard.its time to play soon!!!im so happy,i love my guns.haha,like a kid in a toy store!

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 7:09 PM

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your (they say) comment .."$199,marked down they say from $230" is on the money..But you made an effort to buy American, and it does seem like a good price. The only thing i have to buy for the SMLE is optics.. and i'm sure NOT going to spend that sorta money.. I know im not going to be using the piece as much as you will be. I'll get it zeroed in.. or at least close, and "maybe" take it out to shoot a couple times a year..

Son-n-law and i were supposed to go to the gun show in Wickenburg this weekend, and i was hoping to get some sorta deal on optics there, maybe something used at a good price, but we found out the Rodeo is going on at the same time.. That Rodeo has caused REAL issues with traffic, and a nightmare in terms of driving thru town, so we decided to skip it..

Congrats on doing rather than talking about it..

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 7:26 PM

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thanks greg.feels good buying american.my purchase in a small way kept a guy like me working another day.ya,it may take me a while,but when i get something in my head,i gota see it through.thats why I'm building this ar in the first place.just sucks being on a near 0 budget right now.the old champaign and caviar dreams on a beer and cracker budget comes to mind.haha.

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 7:35 PM

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see y'all later,gotta feed myself and the wife soon,she's eating for two

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 8:25 PM

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Good stuff Jay..

Hey.. tell us about the baby.. whens it due, do you know if it's a boy or girl.. Hows the wife doing,. Were not going to hold a baby shower bro, but we do like the whole "spawn" thing..

Jay.. hey i've got a way to save some money so you can put more into the AR project.. The hospital will charge you like 150 bucks for the "prep" .. This is nothing brother.. Get out a good Bic razor, lather the wife up, and (you have to be real careful here, they get all "hyper" critical if you nick them at all.. anyway shave that (talking about your wife so trying to be polite and all)ahh "area" real good, and you can save 150 bucks..

It might not be a good idea to tell her you're doing it to buy a bi pod.. Sure you can make something up that sounds better.. Good luck ..

Serious now, is she well along or first trimester or what..

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 9:06 PM

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hahaha.good stuff greg.shes due on may 20th.she knows the sex,but i don't wan a know till it comes.like the whole saving money on prep thought!thats a bipod 4 sure...

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 12:18 AM

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Tomorrow is a big day then as she starts into her third "tri".. No expert, but i've heard women say that if things go smooth for the first two then an easier birth.. Neat that she hasn't had accidental pronoun slip..(wow he/she sure is kicking today) What ever you wind up with, know were happy for you.. if the little one is born on my BD (15) you get a door prize..

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 1:34 AM

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haha greg.i got your p.m. no problem at all.

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 2:09 AM

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pushed the envelope.. glad you have a good since of humor on the subject..Not in the mood to have a bunch of 5.56 holes in me... congrats Jay..

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2 years 20 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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thanks greg.naaa i got thick skin,and you barely pushed the envelope.it would have to be a pretty bluntly made comment,or quite inappropriate to get me riled up.she hasn't slipped yet,but we have always kinda alternated the use of him/her/he/she,but mostly we just call it the bean,or our bean,so we won't have to worry about someone else hearing us say him/her and saying "oh he knows?" if they hear us use the correct pronoun him/her.safer that way.we both want a boy,and i kinda think its a boy,but of course we will both love a girl the same,she will just be raised as a tom boy,and do all the same things a son would have done,but a boy would have been raised with a kitchen set and a baby doll around too,just like i did,cause we think its important to teach all children that we all grow up to have babies,and we all have cars,and cook.its getting close now,and I'm struggling with names.a boy will probably take my name and become part of a long long long line of
john joseph sedlers (the 6th) in the unbroken chain going back 100+ years of firstborn sons i understand (john)meaning god is gracious (joseph)"he will enlarge"lost to translation from hebrew (sedler)literally saddle maker,or leatherworker,but I'm told it may have been noble at some time in austria where the name comes from,and changed to sedler in america .less likely,but next most probable is
benjamin as a first or middle name(after my brother) and i haven't decided on another to go with it yet.
a girl is my wifes to name and she likes michal brielle sedler.....told you she was thinking BOY!
michal (hebrew)meaning brook or one who is like god named for the arch angel a fighter and brielle (irish)being a shortened form of gabrielle meaning woman of god/exhalted goddess (french) michal is strong,so we gave a feminine middle she could use instead if she prefers.
well theres all that...im back to guns now.hahahaha.

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