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5 years 4 weeks ago, 7:56 PM

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Support our troops!

We see them every day on the back windows of SUVs, on the fuel doors of sedans--stickers and magnets that say "Support Our Troops." Sometimes they sport yellow ribbons; sometimes American flags. Often they are weathered, peeling off the metal or glass. We see them so often it's easy to tune them out. Like the inoffensive "Have a nice day," the slogan is a pleasant sentiment that skims across our consciousness and disappears into the air.

On Veteran's Day, when we honor all of those who have served our country through the military, it's helpful to take a closer look at these three words that have become so familiar: What does it mean to truly support our troops?

Often, when people ask us to support our troops, they are asking us to support the Bush Administration's decisions in Iraq. But is the Administration supporting our troops by sending them into a war based on lies? By sending them into one battle after another with inadequate body armor, inadequately armored vehicles? By bringing home the wounded in the dead of night so we can pretend they don't exist? By cutting veteran's benefits upon their return, so they have to struggle to pay for their housing, their groceries, their medical care? By making young men and women fight an unwinnable war, a war that no longer has the backing of the American people?

Since March, peace groups including CodePink and Veterans for Peace have been staging a weekly candlelight vigil in front of Walter Reed Hospital in Washington, DC, to highlight the needs of injured soldiers. Lately, the vigils have been met by aggressive counterdemonstrators, who line up on the opposite side of the street with signs denouncing the vigil. These people support the war in Iraq and argue that demonstrations are demoralizing to the recovering soldiers. But how demoralizing must it be for soldiers coming home to discover that in state after state, Veterans Administration hospitals are being shut down? How demoralizing must it be for injured soldiers to have to fight for disability benefits, to be faced with increased co-payments, to be told that their post-traumatic stress disorder is not war-related?

What is the impact on soldiers still in Iraq to learn that the Bush Administration manipulated the intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in order to justify an invasion? How must they feel when they learn that Iraqis don't want us there or understand that their acts of bravery are not making their families safer at home? How demoralizing must it be to see their buddies die in a war that increasing numbers of soldiers don't even believe in?

More than 2,000 of our troops have been killed, and more than 15,000 injured. These numbers are important to remember, but it is also important to remember that our troops are not numbers, not statistics. They are human beings, and there are actions we can take to support them that are much more meaningful than blindly supporting our President or slapping a magnet on the back of our gas-guzzling car.

Send care packages to Iraq: books and snacks and toiletries to mitigate some of the harshness of the desert war zone. Donate to organizations, like the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, that provide help for returning soldiers struggling to put their lives together after war. Stand on street corners with candles and signs that spotlight the injustices our troops face. Support groups like Iraq Veterans Against the War, made up of courageous soldiers speaking out against the war. Urge elected officials to end this misbegotten military adventure. Support clean, green energy programs and lifestyles that move us off our dependence on other countries' oil.

As we honor the sacrifice and courage of our veterans, let us recognize that the best way to support our troops is to call for their swift exit from Iraq, to guarantee them the care they deserve when they return, and to make policy changes that will stop us from ever again rushing into a reckless war.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051128/benjamin

Amry Dads RULE!!

My dad is in the army and surves our contry.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:00 PM

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By the way

I am 17 years old. Please don't underestimate me.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:05 PM

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hi, i'm ryo. i'm 16. pleasure to meet you. it alway nice to have young people join the site.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:11 PM

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Oh good. Another teen. So, what's it like here? Thank you so much for welcoming me here.
BTW, Nice avatar littledragon!

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:17 PM

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have made lots new friends. have learned a lot about all kinds of weaponry. there are all sorts of different people here with different ideas and different areas of expertise. just join in and feel free to ask questions. also share your interests. most people are easy to get along with too. there are article to explore and pictures of every kind of firearm you can imagine, but hey, if you come across an unusual weapon make sure you post it, because the more you contribute to the site the more points you earn and so advance in rank.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:30 PM

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Littledragon

Thanks so much for the tips. I got kinda lost bc. I joined this afternoon and I couldn't figure out how to upload an avtar. And I didn't know how to post.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:34 PM

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army dads rule

well it seem you have work that out now. it post a picture or video on the site, if you look by your member name in the upper right hand corner of the window you will see the word create. that will take you to the page were you can upload things like articles you write, pictures or videos and you can do gun reviews too. to post a new topic on the forum just see to the left side where it says post new forum topic and click on that. it's not hard to get used to how to use the site.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:39 PM

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Littledragon

Thanks. I'll try to post now!

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:43 PM

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army dads rule

it's really not difficult, but if you have any questions, just ask ok.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 8:45 PM

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Oh to be young and dumb and full of cum.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:19 PM

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luckybychoice: uhm

ryo have been accuse of many things before but being dumb was never one of them. ;-) ryo just welcome new member to site. have said nothing about his long post, but then ryo is well known here for not being politic person. everybody entitle to opinion. and depending on how you interpret the post it can be a very conservative outlook or a more middle of the road outlook. and he is new member and should be allow some leeway here neh. (word neh is Nihongo word that mean, are you with me so far...)

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:16 PM

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ryo have miss you. is everything alright with your wife ka hope your wife and the baby are well. btw, little baby should be due anytime now neh.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:25 PM

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Little Dragon

My off the cuff comment was not directed at ryo or really even at a-d-r personally more at the content of the post of armys.I see such a variety of topics,one statement cancelling out the other,spoon fed mantras,and young idealism that i would of guessed(correctly)that a young man had typed this post.
My comment was an introspective realization to myself that i am no longer any of these things;young,dumb,or full of cum.

My world is pretty much black and white with a few shades of gray that i allow and i like it that way.
No disrespect intended but if we want to discuss items in the origional post i have a little time.
Thanks,Lucky

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:27 PM

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Ryo & Army_Dads_Rule

Yes wife is doin well. Im sorry ive missed out on some stuff here but wife comes first. How have you been my freind?

Army_dads_rule: Welcome to the site my name is jon but every one here calls me Solid Snake or Snake and SS for short. Im 19 years old and will be joining the army in febraury as a Sniper (thats my Dream) I know alot about sniper rifles and stuff so feel free to ask sometime.

5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:43 PM

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Hello Army_dads_rule

Hello and welcome to the site. You will find out that a lot of the guys on here are either in the military now or was in the military at one time. I'm a medically retired Marine myself and will always support my brothers in arms no matter what. Right or wrong I'm with them always. There is a lot of things you will learn when you have a few more years under your belt.
The VA system is a joke and it has been a joke for years and I should know been dealing with them for 23 years now. A lot of the equipment that you talked about were in service new when I was in the Corp so this is not Bush's falt. There was another president before him that screwed our military by not getting them what they needed to do thier jobs right in the first place.

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:46 PM

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ryo have very little interest in discussing politic issues. btw, am handicap person with cerebral palsy. read just fine and understand too. problem is in communication skill. often have problem with personal pronoun so refer to self by own name. ryo is a Nihongi name that translate into English as Little Dragon. everything is shades of gray, if you want to talk philosophy, that another story with ryo. even black and white themselves are shades of gray. there is no just thing as a black and white world. it's is scientific impossibility. have study this in physics classes, which ryo make straight As in, and if not believe this, then you should read some of the posts ryo have written on the forum about ballistic coefficients and the math envolved in this as well as the math envolved in things like muzzle energy etc. while my kanji study isn't what it should be, ryo excel in math an science. also speak two languages equally well, both English and Nihongo (Japanese). was born and raise in dallas, texas, but have live in number of different parts of the world.
ryo see nothing wrong in encouraging young people to feel welcome to the site and cutting newbies a little bit slack is sort of the order of the day unless they complete numbskulls like cetme.off and berrymeet. can't stand those two guys and people like them, but that because they come here to disrupt the site, not to contribute to it. army dads rule is just 17 which make him year older than ryo. he write well and even if disagree, which is fine, is still not a piece intended to disrupt the site and hey, like assholes, everybody has an opinion. it better to encourage and so pull in and have oportunity to educated and allow young people to grow than to cut them off or be dismissive. your "introspection" was not made clear as such in the original post. if it had been then ryo would not really have had anything to say, neh. btw, at age 24 you are still young enough to buy into spoon fed mantras and my pops is old enough to be your pops too, and then some. ryo not have quarrel with you because of what you said in second post, especially if you willing to learn too. and you should not make statement that go contrary to the laws of physics. black is the absence of color--a shade of gray, and white is the admixture of all color--another shade of gray. and if you look at the opposing ends of the monochrome scale you will see black is the first shade of gray and white is the last shade of gray. it is ALL shades of gray.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 9:50 PM

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snake kun!

am so glad to hear your wife is doing well. am glad to see you back. ryo is doing very well. on thursday evening got two new weapons as presents! got the Ruger 22 Charger in blue and black in .22 caliber, and the really nice gift was from my little brother. you will appreciate it since it's a real sniper rifle. he bought for me the DPMS Panther Mini SASS! i got to shoot them both yesterday and today. have really enjoyed this.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:02 PM

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.22 charger its that kind of rifle that looks like a pistol with a stubby bipod and scope right. If so ive seen them be fore. Never had a chance to shoot one myself but hop to. I also got a gift from me freind its a Iver Johnson 12 gauge just like his excaclty. They are awsome for shootin thin trees and plywood.

5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:12 PM

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hai hai, it is a pistol version of the Ruger 10/22. it shoot very accurately too. was surprise though at how much louder the bang for this weapon is compare to the Walther G22 .22 caliber bullpup that got for birthday. the pistol if very accurate at the 50 meter gallery. next week am going to try it at the 75 meter gallery at the range at our gun club. the bipod is very useful too. thought at first it might be something of a hindrance, but it just the opposite.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:17 PM

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Yes, bipods are a good thing. LOL

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:36 PM

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they work really well with ryo new Mini SASS and with the new Ruger 22 Charger pistol as well.

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LittleDragon

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:23 PM

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I will rent one at me gun rang and try it out for myself. I have a Heritage Rough Rider .22 pistol my cousin left at my house it shoots .22 and has a cylinder for .22 mag but it isnt very accurate but it scares the racoons away from me chickens at night. Please keep me informed on the shooting results of the .22 charger

5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:33 PM

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will do, but ryo would have thought you would have been more interest in the DPMS Panther Mini SASS. it's just just a wonderful rifle. had no trouble at the 400 meter, 500 meter, or the 600 meter galleries with it. can't wait to try it at the 800 meter gallery. it should shoot that far very well too. it have wonderful, fluted barrel. ryo is completely sold now on the whole idea of fluted barrels, even for smaller caliber rifles.

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LittleDragon
PS am very tire now and am going to bed. good night.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 12:30 AM

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Your shades of gray theory is great,i hope you still believe that when you are my age which is 52,how you get 24?doesn't really matter.

I too speak 2 languages fluently,english and profanity.

Glad you are doing well in school,i too have lived and worked in Dallas/Ft.Worth area,too hot.

When i was 17 i joined the Marines.Everybodys green to me.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 11:40 PM

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I don't like you. I think you are another liberal who thinks you know what's best for everyone else. 17 or 70, you are full of shit. I have 39 months in Iraq, 6 in Kuwait, and two in Egypt since 9/11. We are better equipped and better armed and armored than any military force the world has ever seen. My squad of military policemen, consisting of only four vehicles, has more firepower than an infantry company of WW2. Our medical and mental health treatment is better than any other time in our nation's history. Should we have better equipment? Sure, but phaser guns with insurgent-only targeting systems and directed EMP weapons don't exist. We are an all-volunteer military and anyone joining the military after 9/11 and doesn't expect to deploy should go back and live with their parents. There is an odd belief that we in the military need others to worry about our welfare and safety. I, for one, am a big boy and can take care of myself. As a part of the Ranger Creed says, I know the hazards of my chosen profession. I appreciate all the concern for our safety and whether or not we should have gone into Iraq, but don't fucking use my service and sacrifice as a platform to berate George Bush. He may be a coke-snorting inbred hee haw, but he's a hell of a lot better than our current embarrassment. Once we invaded Iraq, whether it was right or not became a moot point.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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