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3 years 33 weeks ago, 8:32 PM

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Surprise Break or Not?

When firing a weapon, should the shot surprise you or not? I know what I think, but I'll let others post their opinions and reasons without influencing anyone with my awesome Vice Presidentness.

Oh yeah, and I'm talking about accuracy shooting, not rapid or close shooting. Let's say 20 yards with a Para Ordnance 1911 GI Expert. I don't know what made me think of something that specific, but I did.

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3 years 33 weeks ago, 5:10 AM

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I Know when

most of my guns triggers will break, so it's hard to be surprised. If you shoot the gun enough, you should be that familar with it.

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3 years 33 weeks ago, 11:16 AM

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it shouldn't be anticipated, but expected

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3 years 33 weeks ago, 2:36 AM

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my trigger breaks

are such a surprise i am constantly looking down the barrel after each shot,i mean what the fuck! and the first time a mag dropped on me i made doody in my pants,these fucking guns are SO COMPLICATED,and really do i have to line up the front site blade between the rear site apeture,like who fuckin threw that in,i developed a twitch in the corner of my eye over that shit!GOD I HATE GUNS...but i'm addicted to the noise so i'm a twitching,nervous noise junkie that nobody wants to go shooting with,i've been banned from most indoor ranges,the one that does let me go in just clears the bays and they all stand bejhind bulletproof glass and laugh at me but i need man,i need.

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3 years 33 weeks ago, 4:17 AM

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Ha...

Ya'll bad. bad I tell you!

Somehow Monty Pythons "Moron Olympics" comes to mind...

Where the last event is where all the contestants have to run to chairs with revolvers on them, pick it up and shoot themselves in the head.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 33 weeks ago, 5:17 AM

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Scoot N Shoot

You best not be surprised when it goes bang or your gonna miss a whole lot.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 33 weeks ago, 5:36 AM

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runawaygun762 wrote:
When firing a weapon, should the shot surprise you or not? I know what I think, but I'll let others post their opinions and reasons without influencing anyone with my awesome Vice Presidentness.

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Oh yeah, and I'm talking about accuracy shooting, not rapid or close shooting. Let's say 20 yards with a Para Ordnance 1911 GI Expert. I don't know what made me think of something that specific, but I did.

Plinking, no, that is what plinking is all about in my opinion. Learning your weapons personality. Finding your sight picture if you haven't shot it before.

To me if your surprised when a weapon goes bang you just had an AD... Factory GI 1911 trigger is 4.5 to 5 lbs if I remember correctly, how much take up might not be consistent but after the first shot you should know where it is at.

Everyone shoots differently even if they are trying to mimic someone else.

Accuracy is a system made up of Trigger Control and knowing when it is going to break and also reset, Grip in such a manner that your sights are parallel to each other, Knowing your Sight Picture.
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On an odd note...

What do you consider too light a trigger?

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 33 weeks ago, 5:52 AM

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Too light a trigger?

when it doesn't provide enough force to ignite the round every time. I don't theink a pistol should have much less than 3 pounds, a rifle shouldn't have any less than 1.5 pounds

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3 years 33 weeks ago, 9:36 AM

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going bang...

The Army teaches that the weapon going off should suprise you.... and I have to say this is stupid. I agree that to be good with a weapon, you should know it intimately. As for to light of a trigger, depends on the use.... Is it a bench rifle, daily carry pistol??? In general, I like my rifles set at 3- 3 1/2 pounds and pistols at 4-41/2.

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3 years 33 weeks ago, 1:03 PM

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Light Trigger

I like it to be as light as possible up to about one pound on single action pistol or rifle. I've shot the M40 with a two stage set 1.5 lb / 6 ounce.

I can say that 6 ounces is beyond ridiculous for me... I didn't press the trigger as much a brush it.

But with a carry gun I have to stick to the don't mess with factory or you can face an claim of Manslaughter because you really didn't mean for it to go bang it AD'd because of too light a trigger. Which is bullshit but not worth dicking with in court...

I figure if you pull and point a pistol at someone, verbally warn them, then get to the point your finger moves to the trigger you mean to kill them...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!

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