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Survival Weapons and Gear
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hillbilly77
I see a bunch of tac gear and thats about it. My survival list at least consists of food, medical supplies, compass, maps, possibly a GPS, an axe or machete, and that is just a few things.
Superfrye's list looks like he is going on a raid and that is what he needs to survive that situation.
SUPERFRYE
Thats the same thing my wife said maybe Ill chang the name to Survival weapons HAHA LOL
Pkato
Do you live down there with SamD???
PKato
HIIC
T-Minus 14 days
PI-TH-CB-LS-VN
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself.
They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone
under independence. -- George Washington
SUPERFRYE
Up dated Survival weapons! No samd lives in az
runawaygun762
Rifle-SA M1A Squad Scout rifle
Shotgun-H&R 12 ga single shot
Pistol-Glock 19
Milti-tool-Gerber
Sheathed Knife- Spec-plus Survival Bowie knife
Blackhawk M4/M14/AK chest rig
Backpack- Large Alice pack w/ Frame
Weapon Accessories- Leupold CQ/T scope (for M1A)
I already have an actual survival kit and medic aid bag, but those have too much shit to list here. I do need to try and get IV fluid that isn't expired. It's hard.
raffycanlas
shotgun
beer
TacDoc
thats more like a suicide list...
bulldog136
I would also include tools for gardening, home and auto repair as well.
ScramasaxDurango
I'm thinking
Rifle-- my Mauser hunting rifle: range, reliability, accuracy... it's the weapon I'm most familiar with, so I would do better with it, even if it's not the fanciest
Pistol-- my Ruger GP-100 .357 magnum: I can put both .38 and .357 ammo through it, and the GP-100 is almost indestructible
Shotgun-- my Mossberg 12-gauge: I'll probably leave this at camp most of the time, but it's a versatile weapon, and still handy to have around
Long blade-- hatchet/tomahawk: more useful than a machete for most US environments, handy for hacking through barriers and pitching camp, as well as an extremely destructive hand-to-hand weapon
Knife-- old Puma hunting knife: hand-forged in Solingen, Germany. They're hard to beat and this one has proven handy on numerous hog hunting expeditions
Water-- a hand-pumped micropurifier and a Camel-Bak: You need lots of water if you're fighting, and you'll want to be able to filter it yourself if you're going to be separated from ready supplies
Medicine-- Full first-aid kit, with some additions (pressure bandages, anyone? How about morphine syrettes and an epipen?) and surgical instruments, as well as a lot of rubbing alcohol for sterilization
Tools-- Combat entrenching tool, gun cleaning kits, hammer, nails, splitting maul, crowbar, socket wrench, wrench, duct tape, flashlights, Coleman stove and lanterns, wire, rope, canvas tarpaulins: all handy to have around, especially for pitching a semi-permanent camp. These would be left at camp while I was out fighting or scavenging.
Food-- already provided for, according to your description
Radio-- both short-range and long-range radios: I can listen in to friendly and enemy broadcasts, if nothing else
Topographical maps of the surrounding area: Another handy thing to have for when the power runs out
Several small solar panels, possibly scavenged from yard lights: could be re-wired to trickle charge handy devices, such as laptops, radios, and GPS systems.
Flare gun: Just in case
Repair manuals: Again, just in case
Other: Gasoline, kerosene, thermite: A little gasoline in case I can secure a vehicle or genny, kerosene or propane for the Coleman stove, and thermite to cut through obstacles.
If this is an invasion scenario, then I'm assuming that I've been isolated. In that case, I intend to fight a hit-and-run battle, using my old battle rifle to engage and harass at medium range, and adapting Iraqi-style bombing tactics to my own purposes to buy me time and further harass the invading force. I'm going to want a hidden, semi-permanent camp somewhere to stash gear and supplies while I'm harassing the enemy and taking what I can from them, and I'd probably ride a bicycle or something of the like, because it's quiet and stealthy, if not very cool. I'd target enemy supply trucks and the like, laying low until the main body of their force passed, because that's where they'd be most vulnerable. Any army powerful enough to invade the USA would have to be packing a serious supply train behind it.
Fight like WWII Russian/Soviet Partisans.
runawaygun762
is gonna fit right in. Damn it, probably a fed.
luckybychoice
he's on the right track but so far no mention of why he wouldn't drop that mauser and pick up whatever Govt.issue rifle becomes available,unless he has a lot of reloads.Good list though.
HampsterW
I am cuddling mine as we speak.....
HampsterW
I have a Spanish Mauser and while it is a fine rifle and very accurate, (there is no replacement for displacement) Hi capacity semi auto wins out with me in the end.....
greg az
our boy Hamp is "cuddling" with an M-4 and wants to elaberate that the spanish mauser wins his end.. I thought that belonged to Ebear..I'm all confused again..
I agree on the new guy.. Welcome aboard there long name dude..(we have to do something about that), We could have a name the new guy contest..Will see if he hangs for a week, and if so give him a more gunslut sorta name.. Hope so, and nope don't think hes gov issue way to smart for that (sorry Dave)..
Oh yeah and good evening all
Larry Wagner
now, we all know & love ya Hamp but son, when it comes to twisted, your right up there with the rest of us. LOL Say thank you Hamp!!!
Oh yea,, Howdy ya all
greg az
you were half right about being warm, but just wasted from the day.. turned out good, but those shots give you flu symptoms, and sorta beat.. what did you guys do with Vaq, Manu, and Catfish.. they take off early tonight or what..
Talk to me guys whats the late and great news. Greasy how ya doing buddy..
Larry Wagner
Hello Adam, you have a PM
Larry Wagner
I think we did run em off LOL
Larry Wagner
I hear ya brother, It's tough to leave that warm. & those shots are bound to take it out of ya.
greg az
couple geezers talking health sheesh.. last time tonight, promise, Larry did you get an update on your blood test..
Larry Wagner
All the regular blood work was fine, get the Protime tomorrow morning.
OK, Tag your it!!! What's your update?? Let us have it oh wise Geezer.
Anonymous
doin well.just getting reestablished here at home.got some work lined up and a doctor appt tomorrow for a physical evaluation for the state.will do my best at the eval but i am not 10 percent by any means.
Larry Wagner
Howdy Mike, Good your on, & home, just remember to breath!!!!! Good to see ya buddy.
greg az
Mike i can't tell you how much everyone of us want you to make it thru this.. It will get easier to buddy.. Least it can't get much harder huh.. and remember the old thing about the Lord not giving us more than we can bear..take that stress out on us, or give it to the Lord.. Were with ya buddy.. Going to bed, and Glorias asleep, but will be here tomorrow if you need to talk..
Adam, great give me one and back at ya.. Guys i have to get to bed myself, i promised Larry i would show for coffee, and better get to bed if im going to do it tomorrow..
Larry Wagner
Have a good one, everyone take care & be safe.
Yuma Jim
What I have handy: 1st aid kit with inflatable nurse, fine archery set, trip wire ( also for snares and lashings), Redwing boots, a couple of those lil' Photon led flashlights-red will save your nite vision, axe. porn...........aw............who am I kiddin', I'd probably just jump into my sailboat, head South 'till the butter melts and regroup where it's warm.
ScramasaxDurango
Y'all can call me whatever you like. I live in Texas right now, and I'm originally from Oklahoma. I'm a State Guardsman, not a fed, but I'm just a recruit right now until I can take three inches off my waist (I took off fifteen pounds and three inches last month, so unless Thanksgiving kills me, I should be okay). I'm also a college student and I want to go to medical school-- I'm pre-med right now, and I need to pick a more specific major, like maybe biology or chemistry.
I operate off the philosophy that whatever gun you're most familiar with is going to be the one you're most effective with, regardless of high ammunition capacity or style. I can reach out and touch somebody with that Mauser, and I keep plenty of ammunition around for hog hunting. I figure if I run out... well, anybody who invades us will probably be carrying Kalashnikovs, and I know how to use one, they're just not my favorite. I'd rather pick up a Dragunov-- 7.62x54R makes a helluva mess.
7x57 isn't the most powerful ammunition out there, compared to like a .300 WSM or .50-caliber sniper weapons, but it's reasonably light and the rifle itself is deadly accurate... I don't think my opponent's going to care much about caliber when I shoot him in the head.
ScramasaxDurango
I should probably also elaborate that this Mauser was my first rifle, and it was given to me by my grandfather, who used it on various game up in Alaska in the '60's, as well as deer in Texas and Oklahoma, so not only do I know how to use it well, but it also has a lot of sentimental value to me.
You've gotta have something to keep you going, ya' know? Something to tie you to home, and that rifle would go a long way with me.
Snake
Rifle- M14 EBR Suppressed 7.62 NATO
Shotgun-Saiga 12 Guage
Pistol- Desert Eagle .50AE
Knife- K-Bar
Tactical Vest-None
Back Pack- U.S. Military Standard Issue type
Accessories- Thermal Scope for M14 and NV Scope. Ammo, Food and Water.
runawaygun762
Did I really put a H&R single shot as a survival shotgun? Wow, what the fuck was I thinking? Ah, how far I have come. How far have I come, you ask? Well, not very far, usually. But far enough to get the sperm to the egg. I'm a funny, motherfucker, huh? No? Damn.
ScramasaxDurango
I like the Saiga. Sounds pretty cool.
runawaygun762
It's not what I consider the most reliable shotgun ever. There are certainly better ones out there. I like my Mossberg 590SP or a Remington 870 over the Saiga.
Snake
Everyone has there personal prefrence of shotguns, to the eye of the beholder the shotgun types have there advantages and disadvantages. It really is the choice of the user on which shotgun to use for the battle conditions or hunting conditions. If ya are huntin then a pump is fine or a semi but in a battle ya might want to spray as much lead down field at the least amount of time as possible and a semi or full auto shotgun will prove useful then and there. Thats how I see it anyways. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything.
runawaygun762
I like my Saiga for the novelty, but if I'm using a semi, the Remington 1100 Tactical with 22" barrel is my preferred choice
HampsterW
Thanks giving and God bless!
Snake
You proved me right. Everyone has there specific choice in Shotguns.
HampsterW
the same reason..........We all know that the .410 ain't gonna do shit and the .45LC is more effective but with only 5 rounds, it just ain't practical........But it's Goddamn fun!
luckybychoice
a while back,both 410 and 45lc,it was fun,but ......variety is the spice of life!
ScramasaxDurango
I'm pretty sure that if you whip out a Judge, even if the 410 doesn't get them, the ensuing heart attack from being shot with such a large handgun will
luckybychoice
the 410 is piss poor performance wise,not one cartridge has passed the FBI minimum penetration test,even the .410 round that Winchester developed for the Judge failed. It's a range toy,anybody that would depend on it as a defensive weapon is a fool.
CharlesW
But who the hell is going to carry all that shit for you?
Do you have a squad standing by.
I guess 1st thing is have a plan where to go
2Nd when you know where you are going you might
know what you need to carry
Someone said when I need an automatic weapon
there will be plenty laying around.
The more you try to take with you, the slower you will be
leaving.
I'm looking at buying a barrel conversion for my single
shot 20ga to 30-40 Kraig. Not the best but will do for
a while until other things come along.
I guess yall are planning on a vehicle being available
to haul all your stuff. I think you better rethink that and
plan on what you can carry or mabe haul in a cart of
some kind.
Just my thoughts (what a dumb ass huh)
runawaygun762
The weapons and supplies that I have at home will easily fit into the cab and bed of my F350, although I don't plan to leave the house unless absolutely necessary
Now, the original post discussed an occupied America, and as we have seen during the high-profile abuses of power of our government in the early '90s, a static defense against a numerically superior force who has unlimited resources will fail time and again. So if this is the kind of event you are planning for (not very likely, in my opinion), then mobility is a key element of the planning, but rolling around in a "liberated" tank will likely get you a visit from an occupier's attack helicopter unit.
If this is the type of scenario you are planning for, you should certainly give a lot of thought to caching weapons and supplies in places that are out of the way, but accessible. Again, I doubt this type of event will ever happen here, but who knows?
ScramasaxDurango
...but you just gave away your plan! You lost the element of surprise!
runawaygun762
Have I said anything about my stockpile of captured SA-2 missiles or my personal fleet of F-117s? No, I haven't. Wait. Oops. Nevermind.
ScramasaxDurango
Yeah, just don't tell 'em about your fleet of captured IS tanks, and I think you'll be okay
TLtactical
Don't forget:
1. Water Filtration Unit!
2. Flashlights with Extra Batteries!
3. Rice: easy to carry food that stretches what you find along the way... MRE's are good, but take a lot of space...
4. Good Boots and Extra Socks!
5. Gold Bond Powder! Feet and groin, feet and groin! Long distance foot travel in heat will kill you otherwise...
PS: Remember that if you are talking about items you are going to carry long distance or long durations of time that every combat vet knows to pack only the essentials... Weight is an enemy, especially as we get older...
Just my humble honest opinion....
CharlesW
Anyone who has had any training knows that.
Man trying to carry 60 lbs and any rifle will
kill your ass in a day.
I am on a farm so I think I will stay put.
I have a concrete storm cellar as a
shelter so they better have something
big to dig me out. But why would they
mess with me anyway being way out
in the country. It's the city folks who
better be worried.