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3 years 13 weeks ago, 1:34 PM

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Take Action to Stop Gun Ban

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) is seeking public comment on their recent “study” on the importability of certain shotguns. It is critical that rights supporters express their objections to this “study” and its pending implementation in no uncertain terms. A strong showing of opposition can help to stiffen the spines of members of Congress and a poor showing will absolutely be pointed to as proof that people support expanded importation bans.

Comments need to be clearly opposed to expanding import bans and, most importantly, they must be submitted in a timely fashion. Intending to send a comment, but never actually getting around to it, does no one any good. The comment period is open now through the end of April. Comments can be submitted via email to shotgunstudy@atf.gov or by fax to (202) 648-9601.

Below is a sample comment you can paraphrase or simply cut and paste into your own email:

Subject: I Oppose Further Restrictions on Shotgun Imports.

I strongly oppose further restrictions on the importation of shotguns and disagree with the findings in the ATF shotgun study.

The constitutional authority for import restrictions based on a vague “Sporting Purpose Test” is highly suspect in light of the recent Heller and McDonald Supreme Court decisions and the Court’s previous decision in Miller.

Under the definitions contained in this study, virtually all pump-action and semi-auto shotguns would be banned because all of them are capable of accepting a magazine – box or tube – capable of holding more than 5 rounds. This and other characteristics determined to be “military” in the study are utilitarian and often significantly enhance a gun’s usefulness, particularly for people with disabilities. Denying access to certain designs or features can effectively serve to disarm (for personal defense and sporting purposes) vast numbers of disabled veterans and others with disabilities resulting in violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.

There are a variety of popular and growing sports which utilize shotguns with “military” features. These guns are dominant in USPSA, IDPA, IPSC and other popular shooting sports. Refusing to recognize these sports as they relate to shotguns based on the implications such recognition might have on rifle and pistol importability is disingenuous at best.

Applying import restrictions does little more than increase costs and complicate compliance for US shooters and gun owners. Foreign manufacturers remove features and adapt their firearms to comply with US import restrictions and then US shooters modify the firearms back to the desired, original configurations. This can be expensive and legally dangerous since failing to comply with obscure provisions of the laws related to altering imported firearms can result in unintended commission of multiple felonies which carry serious penalties.

ATF should shelve all plans to implement any of the findings of this study.

Respectfully submitted,

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Everyone who cares about overreaching government bureaucracy should immediately send an email to shotgunstudy@atf.gov including the above points. Cutting and pasting from this article is encouraged. Participation is much more important than originality or eloquence.

One of the most important things about this ATF “study” and proposed shotgun importation ban is that it lays the groundwork for much broader, general shotgun restrictions. Importation is not the only place where federal gun laws apply this unconstitutional “sporting purpose test,” it is also found in the National Firearms Act (NFA), the laws dealing with machineguns and destructive devices. Under the NFA, any firearm with a bore greater than .5 inch is a “destructive device” – in the same category as mortars and Howitzers. The only exception is for “shotguns which the secretary finds are generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes.” If the secretary (in this case Attorney General Eric Holder) finds that certain shotguns are not importable because they are unsuitable for sporting purposes he must then explain why virtually identical guns, with the same features, are considered suitable for sporting purposes with regard to the NFA. How can he declare them non-sporting on the one hand and not declare identical guns as non-sporting on the other? There can be no doubt that the Brady Bunch and other gun control zealots will be asking that question loudly if ATF and Holder move forward with current import restriction plans.

If these proposed rules for shotgun importation are not stopped now, virtually every pump-action and semi-auto shotgun in existence could be banned – not just from importation, but from possession or transfer. The guns would fall under the same harsh restrictions currently applicable to machineguns.

Please do not delay taking action on this. Your voice matters. Send your comments to shotgunstudy@atf.gov and cc your email to both of your US Senators and your Representative. Please also add info@FirearmsCoalition.org in your cc so we can get an idea of how much response is being generated.

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No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 13 weeks ago, 5:44 PM

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I used the link and it opened outlook express, which is not my normal email client so I'm not sure it went. I hope that it did.

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3 years 13 weeks ago, 6:28 PM

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Hello,I am a taxpaying gun owning us citizen I am not a terrorist and I hate that so many of us gun owners are being treated as such.The term "sporting purposes"is a non descriptive term that seems to allow you the right to take guns off the market because of the military or military like features they have.All pistols,rifles,and shotguns can and do have a sporting purpose.If I as a taxpaying legal natural born American citizen choose to shoot paper targets, clays,or the dirt for that matter,what difference does it make if I do it with a gun that has a detachable magazine,a pistol grip,semi auto,pump,or bayonet?ALL guns are weapons,and ALL guns can kill people,what makes it a sporting weapon is how the operator chooses to use it.Enough of our 2nd amendment rights have been nibbled away already without further rules, regulations,or gun bans that we all know don"t really stop the criminals.The problem with our crime and safety in this country is the enforcement of the laws that mater,and can prevent or deter crime.It does not matter if every gun hating liberal in the country cant see the reason for a gun I may or may not want to own,I have a RIGHT not a privilege to keep and bear arms as per the 2nd amendment of the constitution written by our founding fathers.The important thing to remember here is the 2nd amendment never says who,or why,or under what laws we may keep and bear arms,nor does it state what arms we may keep.Although I understand,and agree with some weapons being closely controlled,such as machine guns.I do not belive the constitution allows anyone the right to deny the law abiding American public access to them or any other gun completely based on their own idea of "sporting purposes".Please consider the gravity/X games that are widely becoming sports,or being viewed and televised as sports.50 years ago most people wouldn't have thought of these activities as sports.Once baseball,and football,hockey,and all the sports Americans and the rest of the world loves were simply not a sport.Imagine if baseball bats had been deemed "not adaptable to sporting purposes" because people used them incorrectly and only a small amount of the population played the game.We would be denied the most American sport in history!We are not asking for missiles,hand grenades and bombs.We as good American citizens recognize the danger in the general public having this type of things.we all know humans are accident prone,and even if not a single person used their hand grenades in a crime,someone would have an accident.All that having been said please do not infringe upon the rights that I have as a reasonable,non threatening, patriotic citizen have according to the constitution of the U.S.A.thank you for your consideration,I hope you make the right American choice.

fellow citizen John Sedler.

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3 years 13 weeks ago, 11:25 AM

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thanks for the heads up on this. I will definitely give a comment to the ATF. :)

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3 years 13 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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Is going to make a killing on his Saiga me thinks! AR 10 straight up swap, booyah!

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 10 weeks ago, 9:04 PM

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AK-based 12 gauge or AR-based 308? No brainer to me.

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