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very true

what i think is funny is the Obamanators like to blame W for everything and point out any faults. but blindly believe in this new hope and change rhetoric. don't mention all of the mistakes the new Messiah made during the campaign trail, where he couldn't even remember which town he was in, and gave false history statements.
ANYONE can make mistakes. most of the goofy things W said were just because he miss-understood the teleprompter, and it was funny.

are absolutly right W was no super scholar and Obama is.Alot of his mistakes were made,at crucial times and he made piss poor decisions.we now have to, as most people would say get over it,there is now a new commander in chief.move on. and for the sake of me why do you all keep refering to him as the new messiah to me that just so shallow.

yngblknlegl,
that term was coined by someone in the media. I can not remeber who it was. We are just regurgitating this phrase. If some can remember who coined it, that would be great.

clint

yngblknlegl,
I just did a liitle research. Farrakhan is quoted as saying: "You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking."

I do not know if he was the first.

clint

gold star for the researcher,see you learn something new every day.

A discussion on CNN this afternoon had the question raised of what changes Obama will bring. The answer was that he didn't say he would make changes, just push the country toward the changes. Love it.

A discussion on CNN this afternoon had the question raised of what changes Obama will bring. The answer was that he didn't say he would make changes, just push the country toward the changes. Love it.

If we see a plethora of "Executive Orders" rolling out from the oval office and Presidential "Signing Statements" following legislation that he does not care for but politically could not veto, then change is coming, whether we like it or not.

Do any of you out there that take so much time in tearing down George W. Bush for his less than perfect ability to speak eloquently think that you could honestly do a better job as Commander and Chief given the circumstances shortly after being sworn in? Was the best President, obsolutely not, but I sure wouldn't of wanted Al Gore in the hot seat when push came to shove. We would probably be in similiar situations as we had when all the Libians were holding our commercial airliners on the tarmaks and throwing dead hostages out for the media to show everybody on T.V. We probably would have been doing "surgical airstrikes" like William Clinton was so fond of doing all over the place, that accomplished little to nothing other than look good on T.V.

I honestly hope for the sake of our country that Barrak Obama, when sworn in and legitimized as our newly elected president does well. I mean this in the sense that he does what is truely best for the country in domestic and foreign matters, not just what is best for public image as Clinton did. Do I have any real hope for this, honestly no. Those are my prayers however and I may at times say things to discredit him because what he has said and shown so far do nothing to bolster my confidence. In my mind what Bush did, he did because he thought it was what was the right thing to do and didn't care about popularity. He was also severly demonized in the main stream media, so no matter what he did they were going to spew venom. I will give my support to what Obama may do that I agree with. But when the time comes that he starts us down the wrong path, and I believe he will for variuos reasons, it is my dutie to oppose those decisions with all that is available to do so.

I disagree with many things that Abraham Lincoln did as president. Now I know that is not a popular thing to say, especially now with the Republicans saying, "He was the first Republican president!" and the the Democrats trying every possible way to compare him and Barrak Obama. The strengthening and centrelization of the federal government over the rights of the individual rights of states. No president will ever be considered perfect by anyone, nor will any president ever actually achieve this because they are after all people. People who are swayed by thier beliefs in other people. Making fun of George W. Bush because of his speaking ability is like making fun of people here typing mispelled words. If you filter through the mispoken word, or mistyped word and get to the meaning and intent of the message then decide how to take it.

I've always liked him. I don't give a damn what anyone says. George W. Bush that is.

Obama has a bad economy and unpopular war. Lincoln had the preservation of our nation. It's like people comparing the WTC attack to a nuclear blast by calling it "ground zero". There is no comparison.

I doubt very much that the war that Lincoln had to deal with was real popular either. Not really sure about the economy at the time. But your right, not even close to the same people. I just keep seeing and hearing things that make me think. Like giving his speech in front of the Lincoln Memorial, being a senator from Illinois. Things that mean absolutley nothing, but some people try to make a connection.

Lincoln is a symbol of freedom, justice and human dignity. He was/is truely a model human being, someone we should all strive to be like. The amount of modesty which that man had is unheard of.

After 20 of my services with the United State Army duty with 2nd Bat RANGER...I retired and the 9-11 started with Bush senior...I volunteer for the first Gulf for 1 yr...and his son took office...the 2nd war started I volunteer the 2nd tour and almost die so they retired me for combat wound...
Now i am new in here and so far I 've read so much negative of how this government should run ...I am a former first Sgt of the Army...if I don't like something that being done...I will myself will take lead and bring soldiers into challenge and get the job done.
Any of you member willing to do that? Instead sitting in here and cutting the Republican and Democrat. We are all grown man and woman in here.When the RANGER said: we left no man behind...and we never did.
Now you either lead or get out of the way and keep your mouth shut.

Debates on how the government should run don't involve taking lead and bringing soldiers into the challenge. that would be a violation of Posse Comitatus. It's our right to talk about what we want, and if you don't like it, too bad. One of the great things about this country is we can bitch and gripe about whatever we want. And I am sure that many members of this forum contact their elected officials and share concerns with them. I know I do. If you are happy with how the government is run, then good for you. If not, good for you. Ain't the first amendment wonderful?

i voted so therefore i have the right!runawaygun remembers that there are citizens outside of the military that do their part for society.

All I am saying is: it is hard enough to be a leader and lead a whole country ...or a group of professional soldiers into combat...and in combat it hard enough to read the new at home of how the civilian always toward of how we should run and who we should killed etc... that all.
For all of those that support our morals...I salute you all.

I am an active-duty soldier and I believe the people who have done the most to keep our country free are the gun-owners of America. I have said it before that the military is too busy training for or fighting in, wars abroad and do not necessarily defend our nation. Responsible gun owners are the ones who give potential dictators in Washington nightmares. Politicians believe soldiers will follow orders much as they did when ordered to use force against the bonus marchers during the great depression. Politicians believe our loyalty lies with them, so they take the military for granted. It is you, the armed citizens who keep this nation safe.

I never miss a combat seen Vietnam and I am also voted and I even put my life for you and your family... and lost so many professional RANGERS ...where is my right?

dont take what i say wrong!i have full respect for the soldiers one and all who fight to protect my country and family.once you have been around here for awhile you will see i aint got any issues with military.ask runaway,he has read plenty of my posts,in fact other than one or two people everyone on here will probably vouch for my credibility.and by credibility i mean respect for the ones who deserve it.

What is your MOS? I don't mean to start out at a wrong foot... opion just like you know what? I am very easy to get along with and fun to have as a friend...I joint this site because it got alot of retired and soldiers in it.
Nice to meet you...salute

I have 39 months in Iraq, six in Kuwait, and two in Egypt, all since 9/11. People disagreeing with our government is a wonderful thing. Leading soldiers in combat is nothing like what the president does, I'm sure. When the RPGs come in, there is no public opinion, no approval rating, none of that garbage. i enjoyed reading about what people had to say about what was going on right outside the perimeter of the patrol base. It's always good for a laugh. Don't be so serious and you'll get a couple more years out of your heart.

My first five years, I was 11B in Ft Campbell. B co 3/327. Now I'm a dirty, nasty MP in Ft Huachuca, AZ

Salute brother...none taken... just voice my ideas too... it just really sad when I read news from home in combat Zone...that is all...It is very nice to meet all of you in here. Salute

Amen brother...you do know how it is in combat...Salute for your services . Hoooooooahhhhhhhhhhh

also and despite everything, I wouldn't change a thing...he presided over some of the toughest things in the history of the country.

1. The WORST storm ever to hit the country and not only that, it actually hit in the # 1 worst part of the country.

2. The worst attack on this country.

Who really would have wanted Gore or Kerry running things then...honestly, is there anyone who honestly believes they would have handled it any better? Our economy was in recession at the time, then we were hammered by the terrorists and it drove the economy even further into the ground.

PKato

We were in Kuwait coming out of left side of town as we turn left from my driver seat I can see the enemy done fire the RPG at us (smoke) I yell to back up....another hummer right on us... as our hummer impact...it took the driver door off and suck him out and i felt like both of my eyes took off from my head and that is the last i remember... woke up in Germany...
My right (sniper) all of the veins attached to it snap from the impact and all I can see is my left no good eye... so the Army final me with a discharge of 22 yrs (which i never wanted to )... I took an AK round on the right knee cap at the first gulf... my body is full of "titanium"...
Now I'm home and try to adjusting to civilian life...it a bitch.Carry on.

If I met G-dub face to face and was able to tell him what I think, I would say there were decisions made by his administration that were wrong, but overall, he did the right thing. I disagree with going into Iraq, but once we were there, the debate became pointless. I think his demands on the Israelis to withdraw when they had Yassir Arafat surrounded was wrong, and I think they handled the Abu Ghraib scandal incorrectly. But for a president to have to deal with an attack of that magnitude on our soil was a lot of responsibility. Was he perfect? Of course not. But I learned a hard lesson when I became a squad leader in a combat zone; it's awfully easy to have great ideas when you aren't responsible for the outcome of those ideas.

HOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

just, wow.

Show me how to add friends in your profile brother... i feel like Mr.Roger...(ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh tell no one)