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Some of my AR-15's (that's right Nitris, I'm knocking on your door)........Hardly, and we won't speak of the AK variants.......I got you in my sights bud (all be it at about ten miles)....LOL!

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 7:28 PM

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FUN,fun,and more

fun shooting.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 7:38 PM

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They are a blast

Tannerite helps but still, roll out to the desert and unload your frustrations........works for me!

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 7:52 PM

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Pack Tannerite into 12 gauge hulls and place them around at different points, makes it more interesting. We have someone hide them out on the range and pick them out with our scopes. Do the same thing on the 25 and 50 yard berms for hand guns.

Though I tend to piss the guys off smacking their gongs at at 50 and 75 with my 226. Not that a 40 cal at that distance would do more than give someone pause unless it was a lucky hit. I just pick on two of the guys that can't hit a 16 x 20 inch plate with an AK at that distance.

lol

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 9:17 PM

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opposite,........Pack ten pounds of that shit (tannerite) into a five pound bag.....you'll be alright!....lol
Haven't done it yet and don't plan to, shooting for me is a family event., me and the kids...lol

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 9:41 PM

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Hell, read bumper too...

Then we shot it with a SAW and Barrett, bunch of AK's and POF's...

Before

One Innocent 1984 Camero RS Roller
This is a car donated to be demolished by fire...

After

Camero isn't doing so well, think it's time for alittle Bondo
This is how it ended up looking almost at the end of the day.

can't find the picture of the front end after we blew the front end.... hmmm

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 6 weeks ago, 9:53 PM

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3 rd gen to boot, you blew the shit out of it, for sure.....

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 10:42 PM

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What scope is that on the far right? and where did you get the riser mount for it too? Im looking for something like that.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 10:48 PM

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I asked the same question actually.. The tub was rusted out and the unibody was cracked in two places. The guy hit a train track hump doing 70 and it really tore up the under carriage. Then he left it sit in water for almost a year deciding on what he would do with it.

Hell, I'm looking for a little Ford Pick up, have a 1969 1/2 302 I want to stuff into it.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 6 weeks ago, 2:35 AM

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that shot up car

reminds me of when my dad and i discovered a car broke down on a dirt back road in Oklahoma, we had a trunk full of guns of all kinds,dad had a cooler full of beer to.We shot the hell out of that car,don't remember the make,i was about 12 yrs old.Metal swiss cheese.I would of liked to see the look on the guys face as he came back to fix his car,or maybe not.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 8:58 AM

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Some of my AR-15's (that's right Nitris, I'm knocking on your door)........Hardly, and we won't speak of the AK variants.......I got you in my sights bud (all be it at about ten miles)....LOL!

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Well, I have added a few more 3 rubber band and 2 water balloons........yep have ta keep add'en to the collection.

Nice rifles by the way.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 9:43 AM

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That S&W MP15 on

the right is a fine shooter, I picked it up earlier this year for a 'song', I was down to Sportsman's whorehouse getting some re-loading supplies and I had a 'weak moment' at the gun counter, damn those bastards for keeping all of the gun related shit right next to the gun counter....LOL!

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 10:45 AM

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I love my M&P 15 too.....what scope is that, and also the mount for it. Im in the hunt for a scope!

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:04 AM

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Scope,

it's a $100 red dot that I picked up at Sportsman's (don't remember what brand and it's not marked), I had a hell of a time finding mounts that were tall enough, I got the tallest ones that I could find and still had to shim it up about 5 mm and loc-tite the screws to match the front sight. S&W may offer special mounts for the M&P 15 by now but they didn't at the beginning of this year.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:18 AM

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how far you rekon you can accuratly shoot with that red dot?

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:25 AM

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Oh, I'd say

100 yds or so for me but I'm slowly headed for geezerdom and I could use glasses, my vision ain't what it used to be....lol There is no magnification so it's not a long range optic but then again the M4 isn't a long range platform either.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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hmm. Yea we got the 16" bbl. So then I could actually just get a red-dot like that, or even better a red dote with 4x and be set to go hunt or self defense. Am I correct or off a little. I doubt Ill have chances to shoot our furthat than 100+yds hunting, but the range I go to sometimes hase a 200yd range.....hmmm, decisions decisions.....I could go get a red dot today, or do I wait and get that m223 nikon........help!?!?!?!?! lol

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 12:06 PM

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is to have different rifles for different purposes (read:expensive) for instance, I have a ROMAK3 for long range stuff so I don't need high dollar optics for my AR's but there is no reason that a 16" bbl AR can't serve both short and long range duty (within reason) with a good quality optic.

For range, I would suggest a 20" bbl.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 1:29 PM

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Yea Im looking to get a remmington 30-06. the remm 700. Comes with a scope and all :), until I get it tho, my ar is my hunt gun, since I dont have .250 ammo for my savage. From what I hear, the AR is good out to 600m, but That is probably the 18 or 20"bbl right? My buddy is a marine and he said sight it out at 32m and at 600m itll be right on....or something of the sort. Any how, My AR is basically my all purpose gun. So with that said, being All-Purpose.....a 4x red-dot type would overall be the best bet right? or would the m223 be best.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:36 AM

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Builtf0rdtough wrote:
My buddy is a marine and he said sight it out at 32m and at 600m itll be right on....or something of the sort.

you're talking about a 36/300 yd BZO

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 3:36 PM

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yes thats exactly it, I was off the first time haha.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 2:19 PM

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Whoa!!! 600m is a lot

to ask of a .556 round, even with the best optics, with any accuracy...I don't know about that...

The Remm is a good choice, but I would likely choose my own optics, just me tho..

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 3:05 PM

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maybe it was 32m and 300m. something like that. We shall see how this happens, I bought a cheap red dot from wally but returned is as it sat too low and the front site was blocking the view, actually was a nice sight, it was 4x mag. but wally doesnt have riser mounts...have to do some looking around,

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 3:25 PM

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take a look at the Millett 1-4x24 DMS Illum Circle Dot Scope....

a couple of the guys I shoot with swear by them...

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/186660/millett-tactical-dms-rifle-scope...

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 3:44 PM

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sweet

they sound kool................TY

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 4:45 PM

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the AR is more than capable of 600 meters,with open sights,if you spend the time doping your rifle.Practice makes it happen.Go to a KD range,shoot 100 m,200,300,and so on keeping records of your dope,by then you will be able to make a guess for 600 m and adjust,you will be surprised at how accurate an AR is.I have personally shot a 5 shot group i could cover with a nickel @ 500 m shooting from the prone with open sights.Optics and whatever are just icing on the cake,basic marksmanship fundamentals will carry you thru.Now after all that i like scopes to.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 9:13 PM

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Making a joke here..sorta... but one of the reasons i kept the SMLE was to get involved with one of the marksmanship" courses I've seen in SGN..

I did early PPC, and bowling pins... but never much of a rifle (or shotgun) shooter..

Owned many over the years, and had to Q with them (AZ's DOC used Mini 14's / Winchester 870's, & Mossberg pumps) candidly I'm just not as good with rifle/shotgun as handguns..

A skill set (one of many) i lack.. so if possible I plan on attending one of the Johnny Appleseed events..

The Brits had what they called the "mad minute" with the SMLE.. As Hamps geezerdom is alive and well down here in AZ, i've forgoten both the range, and how many rounds this had to be to qualify .. but remember thinking.. no way could i do that..

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fun showing that an old late 19th century bolt gun could keep pace with the "mouse guns". There were plenty of old .303s shooting as well. That's where I qual'ed for my M1 Garand from the Army.
Now I occasionally have very slow focusing in my eyes which would make shooting timed/rapid fire impossible.
As for long range shooting, the last time was around 1961 or '62 shooting 1,000 yds at the old range near Miramar in San Diego Ca. We were using '03's. One fine weapon! That was great fun, I even liked working in the butts marking targets.
I've read some about the "Johnny Appleseed events", sound like great fun!

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 10:23 PM

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Good to see you all..

Lou i was thinking about you and the Garand when i posted that.. did you use the Mauser as well.. I have a book one of the girls gave me a couple years ago..GUN a visual.. like so many of the "cocktail table books" its a Brit thing.. anyway they have a pic of an old 03 with a 25 round magazine in it.. really cool.. book says it was issued, but in small quantities..

Pard, Lucky.. YOU LOPS.... ha ha.. info in pms before i get off...

BFT.. get a job boy.. for real any progress .. you going to apply for anything soon..

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:25 PM

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LMAO

Im tryin. Gotta wait until enough time has passed since my last apps. Around feb ill be putting a lot of apps out again. Still waiting to hear from all the CO's I applied to, the app deadline is Dec 31. so Im thinking within the two weeks after the 31 Ill hear back...Decided to for sure get my EMT cert after I finish up this AS next semester. I was told its only 4 months 2 days a week, thats cake...police was 6months, m-f 1300-2200. Im excited, Ive got the possibility to be triple cert with a degree.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 11:51 PM

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BF "sorta" T..

Yes, exactly right.. having that EMT cert is the extra that any agency is looking for. This ones simple.. the HR types are looking at resumes.. starts with what ever the FL acronyms for LE is, then the degree.. the icing on the cake is to be EMT certified..

All joking aside Bob.. we know how hard you worked to get thru the academy.. I remember a lot of "have to go study" posts, and how proud you were (justifiably) when you graduated..

This will happen.. Prayers are being sent up.. Just keep plugging away.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 1:51 AM

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SRT/SWAT teams all have a certified Medic on the team...

It is definitly A+ to have that certification. Excluding that, having the skills to help others in their most dire time of need is always a great thing and thing to spend your time and effort aquiring.

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.223

I've seen guys use .223 AR's in F class competitions (1000 yds). Granted most had good quality 18" or 20" bbls with ammo to match, but they were hanging with the big boys.

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 5:50 PM

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600m with open sights?

I would like to see that. I agree with Reaper, it can be done with long bbl and 'hand loads'. But there ain't no M4 gonna shoot that distance....IMHO

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 9:29 PM

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A lady today at the LGS told me that I wouldnt need a riser mount for optics that were >3x mag, that it focuses further out and you dont see the front sight....she used the finger in fron of the face example, bring your finger close in btwn your eyes and you cant see your finger....does this have any validity?

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3 years 6 weeks ago, 1:47 AM

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Yes, the focal plane is beyond the front sight with a scope. With a Red Dot you can see your front sight because it is null or x1 power. You co-witness the dot with your front sight ensuring the baller is point of aim is in line with the bore axis.

With a scope you set your point of aim (Zero) at whatever distance you desire and then can compensate with hold under or over from your Zero,

Iron Sights correctly BOZ'ed should allow most shooters the ability to lob BB's with confidence with the correct shooting mechanics and practice.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!

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