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2 years 1 week ago, 1:12 PM

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BiBi Netanyahu sent a low key, but unmistakeable message, not just to the Iranian Theocrats, but in essence, to the rest of the world---be they FOR or AGAINST the existence of Israel.

If you did not fully understand the meaning of "NEVER AGAIN" before, he redefined that +60 year old phrase, simply and eloquently for his people:

" WE WILL GUARANTEE LIFE"

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2 years 1 week ago, 1:34 PM

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when reading the Prime Minister's message.
The irrational will learn eventually

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2 years 1 week ago, 7:35 PM

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We will make it so, Israel will have no choice but to attack iran, and then it will be WWIII.

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2 years 1 week ago, 10:19 PM

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the only friend they have that is a big player is Russia, I don't see the "Palestinians" doing any
heavy lifting.
don't believe the Arabs are going to allow Iran to become a global pain in the ass

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2 years 1 week ago, 10:39 AM

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and trying to predict where it is all going, may be a function of what lens and what prism we are looking through.

Here are the factors that I think will ultimately determine the outcome:

1) After centuries of what looks like pan-Arabism "solidarity", the virulent internecine conflict between the Sunni and the Shi'a still, strongly exists. When you look at population, alone, the mix of 1.6 billion Muslims is something like 9 to 1, Sunni versus Shi'a. That makes it look like Iran and its Iraqi, Syrian and Yemeni followers [all Shi'a], do not have a snowball's chance of establishing the Caliphate Second Persian Empire. BUT- ISIS, is their virulently Sunni enemy, whose major interim goal is to establish their own Caliphate from the Levant southward.
In terms of financial posture, military capability, modernization, geography, the Sunni coalition nucleus around Saudia, and the Shi'a coalition nucleus around Iran, are roughly equal. Iran wins the military armaments R&D and manufactured "here" race, but Saudia countervails that by having enough GDP to engage much of the world's military arms industries.

2) Politically, the Saudis will fight to the death to prevent the establishment of an Iranian [Shi'ite] Caliphate The Saudis are in the market, as we speak, for nukes and ballistic missiles, and have been discussing [leaked secret] mutual defense initiatives with Israel. {BiBi better be careful].

3)The first Wild Card will be the "attitude" of the remaining lead-from-behind Obama Administration and how much damage it creates, versus the "attitude" of the new U.S. Administration, if it is not too late, to return to sanity.
The second Wild Card will be the degree of adventurism Putin decides to involve himself in as a big player in the middle east. IMO, he has already gone psychiatric, in his race for world prominence over Obama's craziness. Having sold the S-300/400 surface to air missile system to Iran, I'm betting that at first, Putin will play the Shia's against the Sunnis, and try to boost his GDP by wonderful discounts on weapon systems.

I would guess, that during all of these events, the plight of the Palestinians will fade dramatically.

WHAT DO YOU FOLKS THINK???

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2 years 1 week ago, 12:05 PM

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Iran wants ME dominance. Russia wants to dominate the world's economy. I don't see an up side in this for China, India or Western Europe.
Latin America, some African nations may see Ruble signs in their dreams keeping the U.S. busy watching our South side. Russia is not to anxious to take over undeveloped countries. They only like the expanded military presence.
I can only guess that any influence the United States may have in sculpting a favorable outcome is laughably minimal so we wait until we are rid of the muslim filth infesting the White House and hope those who WERE our friends before the Kenyan became "president" can keep a lid on things.
Does Iran make the leap and risk being annihilated?
Does Arabia withdraw from the nuclear weapons market and trust Israel to be the nuclear deterrent?
Will Russia cross swords with China? Russia can push only so hard in W. Europe before one of two things happen. W.E. surrenders their will to Russia or they fight. We'll see when Russia solidifies control of Ukraine and moves on to where, Czech Rep, Poland? Without the U.S. there is no Line In The Sand. Maybe France will stare them down.
If they are stopped at Ukraine will they turn to the East? I believe Russia is rightly afraid of China, that's a good reason for us to keep on their good side with MUTUAL RESPECT.
Russia can't remain stationary, they want to take the wealth of other nations. If they don't they wither.
All this thinking has caused a severe depletion of my gray matter,

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2 years 1 week ago, 5:00 PM

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Daisy-- Good Essay

But your gray matter, probably will take a lot more hits, before most of this is resolved. Philosophically, thinking is a lot better than the alternative. So my vote is for continued thinking and analysis.

I would like to "think" that W.E./NATO are not going to be cowed by Vladdy. But the U. S. will, while we are still on Obama's watch. Assuming a Republican presidency, I believe the word will go forth that leading-from-behind is no longer in the U.S. dictionary of operational methodology. Thus, we will restrengthen our own resolve, and calm the psyches of our bewildered friends, while serving notice on ALL of those who would wish us ill, that "it's a new ballgame", and any required negotiations will be approached from a tough, position of strength. IMO, the 2016 presidential election will have a profound effect on the place of the USA, in world affairs, for many years.
I would hasten to say that I would nominate as Secretary of State and Chief international negotiator, John Bolton. He has had a controversial interpersonal style, ruffling lots of feathers, much like General Al Haig, but there is no mistaking his serious concern for the protection of the welfare of the USA. His resume speaks volumes regarding international experience, and his appointment would strike terror into the hearts of the Iranian Theocrats.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]

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