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1 year 47 weeks ago, 2:52 AM

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Just wrote a story about my Grandma going south on a snake, and mentioned my Grandpa.. It's late but i want to share this.. Have some mixed feelings as i don't think my Dad would be happy about it, i think he should be, as it caused Dad to be the man he was..

William Dudley Edwards.. 1885 to 1948.. Father of seven.. lost a child in the big influenza outbreak of 1919..same year my Dad was born.. worked for the SF railroad from 05 till 34.. Killed a man in NM.. This was one of a couple of things that Pop was ashamed of.. Brother and i didn't know about this till our Uncle Bob the retired A/F Master Sergeant talked about it at a family reunion back in Illinois.. The rest of the brothers and sisters were alive and confirmed the story.. Seems a young Mexican lad was a bit to keen on the youngest sister.. this was big time taboo to talk about so no idea if this was rape or if the kid even did anything wrong.. what is known is Grandpa carried all his life.. a "rod" was in his pants pocket at all times.. Grandma cut out an opening in the pocket for the bbl to go thru and Grandpa carried..period. No idea what it was, as this was something that bothered my Dad a lot, i (in NO way) want to glamorize the story.. All i know is the Railroad packed up the Edwards family in 1934 and shipped them to St Louis.. WD was fired from his job, and i don't think he ever held a real job again..

Dad, like all the kids, was born in a small town (Santa Rosa NM i can't find it, but have dads old us visas) that marked SF's march thru the west, Grandpa actually did the spur that runs from flag to the grand canyon.. Pop tells stories of the foremen having deeds to the right of way...guess SF used them as incentives.. Dad says he remembers poker games with dozens of these deeds being played for. The kids were educated in a box car that SF moved with the camp.. Dad spoke some Spanish, but remembers speaking it fluently as a kid, cause most of the labors were Hispanic. These were hard times, and Dad made it clear that he was never all that proud of this period of time.. the Edwards family moved from St Louis to Peoria in 36.. Dad lied about his age and started the one job he had for the next 50 years.. Grandpa did all sorts of things from this time till the end of the war.. I can tell you that here again Dad would NOT talk about them, and the only time i ever saw Pop mad at his younger brother (our Uncle Bob) was when Bob would start telling stories.. Dad wanted them to go away.. William Dudley passed away a month before i was born in May of 48.. so i never knew him.. Brother Gary has some great memories.. number one his ability to fart any time one of the kids pulled a finger.. Some how i can just see my Pop being "less" than pleased with this whole thing..

One foot note to this.. i found an old Snap on open end wrench marked with Dads initials WPE.. and one with WDE on it that has one end broken (prophetic huh).. going to put them together and make a cross out of them.. End of story guys.. it's quarter till two and time for bed..

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1 year 47 weeks ago, 7:44 AM

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Great story, Greg.

1 year 47 weeks ago, 9:43 AM

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of Frisco.
Great GF lost a leg on the job, whittled out his own wooden one, I have a picture, he did a good job :<)
GF died young, may have been job related. My father, uncle and grand mother (it was her 1908 Colt .380 that was stolen from me in Ca.) were living in a boxcar when dad met mom.
They lived off the charity and good will of neighbors, no other money coming in. Well, maybe a little $$ from other than legitimate business enterprises.
Santa Rosa NM, spent an entire night on a siding there aboard a SP passenger train. The porter passing up and down the aisle singing "So Rare". Pretty cool.

My family was never that colorful, I'd like to hear more about your RR grampa when we sit down with a glass of Pearl Beer!

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1 year 47 weeks ago, 10:29 AM

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back at ya Daisy..

Grandpa was "colorful".. but so out of touch with what was considered normal by mid century that (coupled with his boozing no doubt) gave incentive to all the kids to make success of themselves.. Grandmother on that side was quiet a Saint.. We all hear that, but this one was.. I didn't have a lot of contact with her, but the story's later (from my Mom as well as Pop) were all about her sacrificing so the kids could eat stuff..

Guess all the railroad companies had their rolling "towns" just a spur off a siding for the boxcars that would have the co store, school, HQ.. Daisy.. you ever hear of the railroad "right of way" deeds.. they bought the land on both sides as part of the right of way.. Obviously the RR owned the area X yards on both sides of the track.. guess they used the rest of it as employee incentive, pay, bribes lol.. This was back in an era when the foreman had to be the toughest guy on the crew.. management that was "king of the hill" simple.. Grandpa was to early or late, one or the other.. The stories of his exploits are jaw dropping (what we got from Dads siblings). While he was alive they were a tad "less" exciting, an example that might be interesting but glad it's in the past..

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1 year 47 weeks ago, 12:48 PM

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GREAT STORY

Great story Greg. The atitude of people that worked on RR and for mineing companys could have been some what learned from what I have heard about how they werer treated and what they put up with. This is true american history. So glad you shared.

1 year 47 weeks ago, 3:39 PM

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the Kansas City Southern tracks that go down to Shreveport. Constant day and night "coal Trains" :<)

If "President" obama get's his way this stretch of track will be all but dead. Just occasional grain and other vegetable products like veg oil.
Pity, huh?

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1 year 47 weeks ago, 4:38 PM

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yep pitty. just another reason why i'm not voting for him.

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1 year 47 weeks ago, 8:38 AM

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Just one of the myriad of reasons....

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