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5 years 47 weeks ago, 3:11 PM

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15 January 09
A troubling trend in Global Warming Denial on the internet

Our 2008 analysis of global warming misinformation finds that there was a very significant upswing in online activity.
This trend should be troubling to US policymakers and campaigners wanting to implement new greenhouse gas reduction strategies.

Here's the stats we've generated as evidence of our conclusions (click any of the images to enlarge):

"Global Warming" + hoax

A Google blog search for the term "global warming" + hoax between January 1, 2008 and January 1, 2009 reports 49,719 page results. The same search for the previous year reports only 22,077 page results.

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"Global Warming" + lie

A Google blog search for the term "global warming" + lie between January 1, 2008 and January 1, 2009 reports 100,770 page results. The same search for the previous year reports only 50,016 page results.

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"Global Warming" + alarmists

A Google blog search for the term "global warming" + alarmists between January 1, 2008 and January 1, 2009 reports 27,298 page results. The same search for the previous year reports only 13,864 page results.

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"Global Warming" + skeptic

A Google blog search for the term "global warming" + skeptic between January 1, 2008 and January 1, 2009 reports 73,956 page results. The same search for the previous year reports only 38,346 page results.

[Note: For those who've never visited our site before and might be wondering what I mean by "climate science misinformation," you can check out this article written by DeSmog co-founder James Hoggan on Slamming the Skeptic Scam.]

Outside of a small band of ideologically motivated outlets, the majority of the mainstream media is unwilling to cover the nonsensical junk science of the right-wing think tanks and their cadre of scientists for hire. With this the case, the internet is exploding with such information. And at the same time that we're seeing significantly more of this misinformation being spread about global warming online, we're also seeing more people than ever using the internet as their main source of news and information.

Here's some recent findings that should trouble anyone working to implement new laws to reduce greenhouse gas emissions:

1) The internet is now a larger source of news for people than newspapers.

Research conducted in December, 2008 by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that the internet is now used as a news source by more Americans than newspapers. The report found that: "for the first time in a Pew survey, more people say they rely mostly on the internet for news than cite newspapers (35%). Television continues to be cited most frequently as a main source for national and international news, at 70%."

2) Millions of people are seeking global warming information online.

In an average month more than 2.2 million people in the United States search for the term "global warming" on Google and another 368,000 people search for the term "climate change." The more climate misinformation that is posted on the internet, the more likely that people searching for information on global warming will be exposed to it. In fact the number 2 search result for "global warming" on Google is currently a website run by the thoroughly discredited Competitive Enterprise Institute:

And the results of all this?

Opinion polls conducted in the United States over the last year confirm the upward trend in people who believe that global warming is NOT caused by human activity. One series of polls conducted by Rasmussen Reports found that between April and December, 2008 the number of respondents who attributed global warming to "long term planetary trends" and not human activity increased from 34 percent to 43 percent.

This upswing is in spite of the 2007 United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) releasing a report by top climate scientists from around the world concluding that global warming is "very likely"—or 90 per cent certain—caused by humans burning fossil fuels.

Legislators are going to be very hard pressed to implement strict new greenhouse gas regulations if almost a majority of the public believes that climate change has nothing to do with human activity. As will environmental groups who are urging average citizens to take personal action to reduce their carbon footprint.

Many people (even some well-known climate activists) have told me that the "deniers' days are over," so I hope these statistics are a wake-up call.

If this is going to be the year that we have the political leadership in the United States with the will to take real action on climate change, we're all going to have to double, or even triple our efforts to dispel the myths and lies being spread online about the realities of the situation

5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:23 PM

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I always knew it, always will...no doubt! It's just a way for environmentalists to scare us into doing what they "know" is right.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:43 PM

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a new, very profitable set of industries can be created to supplant the oil-based addiction we have succumbed to. Those so-called "environmentalists" will become the new Tycoons, and we will be the consumers of the new technologies.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:25 PM

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When Al Gore starts telling me things, I tune out and turn off. Remember when he invented the internet...LOL

5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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Where did this come from ????/

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:37 PM

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Global Warming Sight that I monitor from time to time. Good shit huh. At least all of us aren't sheep!

5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:40 PM

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Yeah no kidding.....we're all a bunch of punks getting in the way of the "TRUTH"...that Truth (the real thing) is such a pesky little thing isn't it. Always getting in the way of agendas and ideological fronts...

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:18 PM

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Clearly we should ignore the scientific community and go with the scientists being paid for their opinions. By the way, cigarettes aren't actually bad for you either.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:29 PM

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that is getting paid, like Al Gores gang. Why is it that you can ignore good science and go with junk science done with hypothetical computer modeling? There is a great ox to gore here. Trying to get people out of their cars. Geez and then we can all take public transportation! Have you ever read or even heard about the Seven Tenets of Communism? Look em up!

5 years 47 weeks ago, 9:15 AM

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Sorry, but Al Gore simply isn't that rich. Judging by your post, you seem to be assuming that the only scientists saying Global Warming is a problem are the ones Al Gore sponsors. In reality, everyone from Scientific America to climatologists to conservationists have voiced concerns about global warming. The attitude of "If we don't look at it, its not happening" is a very dangerous one, and I cannot understand how perfectly rational people can bury their heads in the sand.

Even if global warming was not an issue, our dependence on non-renewable fuel is going to fuck us pretty hard in the end. For example, how much of the oil we use is domestically drilled? Are you saying you would be opposed to the United States achieving energy independence? That you don't want us to have to either bend our collective knee every time someone decides not to give us our fix?

That was an actual, direct question by the way. I really want to know if you want the US to be energy independent, and if so how exactly you think we would do that while still using oil.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:38 PM

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I wanna know what samD

did with his $50 bucks

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 9:38 AM

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what $50?

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:12 AM

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Great news, I'll go have another then. I was starting to worry

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:14 AM

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I did too. But thankfully those scientists at Phillip-Morris told me that they actually promote good health.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:51 AM

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There are tens of thousands of scientists who do not agree with man-caused global warming and some serious research suggesting global cooling is more of a threat. Not that I think Pravda is the best source, but here's a link: http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/106922-earth_ice_age-0. The real issue, however, is whether or not Gllobal Warming is anthropogenic--caused by human activity or whether it is part of the natural changes caused by our own sun. Why, for example, is their global warming on Mars and Jupiter's moons? There aren't any SUVs up there, I don't think. This is way more complex than can be dealt with here, but a couple of points:

1) We're coming off an ice age. Hello? Global Warming! And guess what? It's already happened. Take a look at Hudsons Bay in Canada. See that big round circle? What do you think caused that? A meteor or asteroid, probably, millions of years ago. Now think Ice Age. Ice covered that area completely, but then, about 13,000 years ago things started to warm up. In North America we call this the Wisconsin Stage. (Sorry, I minored in Geology.) The ice over Hudson's Bay melted first. The ice on the land surrounding Hudsons Bay took longer to melt--just like around the Great Lakes today--the shore ice builds up over winter. If you've ever seen that you know what I mean.

Now there were people 13,000 years ago. Indeed, that's how Indians got here--over the Siberian land bridge because the sea level was lower (This is proven by DNA, by the way). But there was also civilization of a sort in India, China, Egypt, and Japan. It was probably pre-Renaissance or near-Renaissance in how advanced it was--and it was centered on the seacoasts--when the sea was 60 feet lower than today. Follow me?

So ultimately the ice dam holding back the water in Hudsons Bay melted and broke, and within a day or so the world's oceans rose 60 feet and innudated those civilizations, thus giving rise to the universal flood myth which turns out not have been a myth at all. Fascinating, huh? Read all about it in Graham Hancock's 'Underworld' which gives the story in detail. The same exact thing happened in another area of western Canada on a more minor scale that carved out Eastern Washington State from the Cascades to the Columbia River, which remains barren today.

The point of this rather long aside is that we are still coming off that ice age today, in which case Global warming may very well be good, not bad, because it could help deter another ice age. The alarmists would have it that Global Warming is all bad, and that thousands more will die of heat stroke in the summer. But they fail to tell you how many people won't die from the cold of winter, which is substantially more. They tell us that crops will fail and fail to tell us that in other areas crops will grow better. There are tons of information out there if you will just go look for it, such as here: http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/table-of-conten.html?gclid=CIuqlM....

The issue is that the alarmists would have us all be good little citizens as they scare us with half the story. It is not 'more rational' to simply believe whatever you are told by the news media and fail to take a skeptical view of these issues. Enough for this post. I will post some more links and a bibliography later on, as well as discuss teh so-called energy shortage, which is yet another liberal bullshit lie being foisted upon us. Cheers

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:59 AM

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I hereby Proclaim being El Presidente, that from here forward. Schuyler is The Minister of Information, second only in command to myself. What Schuyler says is here forthwith the Gospel! Unless I disagree.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 12:04 PM

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I agree that some aspects of global warming are being exaggerated. But, thats just part of the human condition. Every generation has a group that thinks its the end of the world. Its happened in every recorded culture, for every reason from God's wrath to disease to flooding and everything in between. The "Global Warming Will End the World" idea is the modern day version of that for people who have reservations about believing in a religious end of the world.

But, I believe we can both agree it will be bad. Humanity will certainly march on, but it will cause some very ugly times for us as a whole.

The specific causes are debatable, and I think its likely a combination of several factors rather then one be all end all. The same gasses that cause a greenhouse effect on Venus and Mars are the ones being put into the air by humans right now, which I have some trouble not believing is a contributing factor. Is it the sole cause? Certainly not. Is it a likely contributer? You bet.

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