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4 years 4 weeks ago, 7:05 PM

Vaquero

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OK, since "we" seem to have a short attention span, I'll cut to the chase.
If you are in a SHTF scenario, what are you going to do when the rations run out?
You most likely have to kill something to eat and will need to have some way to do it without drawing attention to yourself if "zombies" are about.
I'm thinking a grain elevator is the place to start. Plenty of pigeons to eat and easy to kill with a rock or such. Corn or wheat will likely be stored for grinding into flour or meal and hopefully you can find burning materials for cooking and heating.
We all have different geographic and ecological situations. I for one would not have a clue as to what would be best in the Northwest.
Your comments please.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 7:47 PM

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Interesting question

I think the answers will be different for most of us, because we live in different circumstances. Some live in the country, where it's relatively easy to find animals and birds to kill. Some live in cities, where it's generally more difficult. This only addressed meat. What about grain to grind to make flour? What about vegetables and fruit?
How far would we be willing to go? Would we kill and eat dogs and cats? It's rarely done in the US, but rather common in other parts of the world.
If we happened to find any grain, do we have the means with which to grind it into flour? I doubt if most of us do, or know how to do it.
Most of us are armed, to one degree or another. Would we take food by force? Remember, this would be about self preservation.
I think that most of us would be in deep shit. We don't have long term food storage, and there are no options for most of us.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
4 years 4 weeks ago, 8:04 PM

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Interesting indeed,

it depends on the situation, are we talking nuclear Holocaust where flora and fauna are wiped out and there is nothing to hunt/eat? Or merely a break down of civilization? Either way, if there is something that needs shooting quietly, my compound bow will take care of it. It will take down any small to medium sized game or threat (mountain lion, bobcat etc.) but I wouldn't want to take on a Black, Brown or Grizzly Bear with it.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 8:21 PM

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My 2 cents

I used to work at a grain elevator where racoons and rats were plentiful, it was right on the river so fish is always a possibilty, the neighboring company handled coal for the power plants and the was an old sand pit fill in with water from years of flooding, there are some timber around and islands right out the mouth of the harbor where you could build a shelter that is some what secure from intruders, the trips to elevator would be much with a canoe or raft. So it may not be such a bad place to stock pile before moving on. As far as grinding the corn or soybeans take to rocks and start rocking the top rock on the grain that is set on the lower rock and water and wolla you has masa.

4 years 4 weeks ago, 6:51 AM

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My plan

Well I am one of those guys that spend alot of money on being a prepper. I have always lived in the woods and started killing animals to eat with a sling shot when I was probably 5 years old. I spent my time as a kid reading books on survival and I have taken survival training classes starting when I was 12 and never have really stopped those.
I have several firearms, but I love my compound bow and would not hesitate on shooting anythong in North America so getting food while being queit that could be done. Heck I still use my old wrist rocket so I can kill rabbits, grouse, and wild turkeys with it.
I bought a nice flour/wheat grinder about 2 years ago, but around my neck of the woods there is not a whole lot of grain feilds to choose from. My solution there was I have put away around 300 pounds of wheat and have it in mylar bags in 5 gallon buckets and put in the root cellar. We raise a garden and can every year and that would hold us over for a long time. I hae a creel that runs year round that is only 200 feet from the back door. I keep a couple 55 gallon drums full of water imcase the powers is out the cellar is closer than the creek so I do not have to carry the buckets as far.
We have invested money in hand tools from wood working to an old treadle sewing machine so incase there is no juice we can still function comfortably.We have a small solar panel that can run a few lights, radio, or the tv so my daughter can at least have something to keep her mind off of Dad outside skinning out the neighbor for supper.
With my lck when TSHTF it will be a catistophic attack that takes everyone out so all my preparedness will mean jack shit, but if it does not then my family is well taken care of.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 7:10 AM

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Food Insurance

I was on that site this morning. Costly but it may be the only option for us more urban unfortunates. I have been deciding whether I would relo or hunker down. If I relocate it would be to the coast since I know i can survive off the ocean and sound. I grew up in the hills on a farm so I have the inherent skills that life style teaches. Wrist Rocket, homemade blowguns, bows, trapping... If I stay in the urban setting I will need more ammo to defend my stores as soon as word gets out I have food and water... I have been looking at property by a lake but reluctant to buy until after the elections and we hopefully have a new direction. Meet like minded people as I believe when the SHTF you may need the security that numbers provide. But that presents a whole new set of issues that will need to be dealt with.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 10:21 AM

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unrelated to guns. ? was, what ONE gun would you take? One guy said pellet gun. After getting over the shock he explained his position. Cheap ammo easily stockpiled. Relatively quiet so does not give away your position. Good for small game. Lightweight. After thinking about it for awhile I thought, why not add it to the arsenal? Even if you have a couple thousand rounds of .223 or .308, it's going to run out after awhile.

Also agree, in my area fishing tackle would be a good idea. I'm sure I would get tired of salmon after awhile, but it is plentiful.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 10:30 AM

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I good quality pellet gun that can generate enough velocity to take small game is a great idea. I agree with the noise factor and conserving rifle ammo. I used to have one but have misplaced it throughout the years. I think I'll have to replace it.

edit: I also like the idea of a bow and slingshot. I haven't shot a slingshot since I was a kid, so imagine it would take a while to get accurate with... but they can work pretty good.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 12:29 PM

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It is like riding a bike. I bought my daughter one ths summer and after I shot hers I ran in grabbed mine and in no time I was hittin pop cans at 50 ft. I almost forgot how much energy that wrist rocket can put out. It was quite the sight my 4 year old and her 33 year old dad out there shooting sling shots.

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 3:56 PM

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Cave man stuff

I agree, Bow, Wrist Rocket, Blow Gun, Pellet Rifle, along with the normal, already there stuff. As Schuyler has said, Fishing Gear with out a doubt, Firearms, Knifes, traps, snares, Damn, I need a KW & a 53 foot trailer.

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4 years 3 weeks ago, 8:05 PM

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People are plentiful

And they're not very well camouflaged, they don't have many natural defenses and their senses aren't highly refined like other animals. I think they'll be on my menu pretty quickly.

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