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VFW slams MSNBC host who said he was ‘uncomfortable’ calling dead soldiers ‘heroes’
12:29 AM 05/28/2012
By Alex Pappas
Alex Pappas is a political reporter at The Daily Caller.

A spokesman for a leading veterans organization criticized MSNBC’s Chris Hayes for arguing on his television show that that he’s “uncomfortable” describing American soldiers who died in battles as heroes.

“If Mr. Hayes feels uncomfortable, I suggest he enlist, go to war, then come home to what he expects is a grateful nation but encounters the opposite. It’s far too easy to cast stones from inexperience,” Veterans of Foreign Wars spokesman Joe Davis told The Daily Caller on Sunday.

Hayes, a liberal writer who hosts the weekend show “Up with Chris Hayes,” said he is “uncomfortable about the word [hero] because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.”

“I don’t want to obviously desecrate or disrespect memory of anyone that’s fallen, he said, “and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine, tremendous heroism — hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers and things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic.”

Chris Hayes is a chickenshit little fuck head.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/28/vfw-slams-msnbc-host-who-said-he-was-u...

5 years 8 weeks ago, 5:19 PM

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samD wrote:
Chris Hayes is a chickenshit little fuck head.

Ditto! Fuck his dumb ass!

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 9:05 AM

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lol, that's good! Yeah, I believe you are right.

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 5:40 PM

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pinhead.sucking on the tit of intelectual narcissism.fuck him.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
5 years 8 weeks ago, 5:54 PM

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It amazes me that the people he feels uncomfortable calling heroes, are the same ones that gave the ultimate sacrifice so he does not HAVE to feel comfortable calling them heroes.

The logic seems to bypass most of the so called "intellectual elites".

but that is just my observation...

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 6:02 PM

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Ditto, Clint

That's about the size of it. For all their "intellect", they sure can't seem to understand the simplest little things.

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 9:48 AM

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Hero to Citizen, meaning to be a Citizen you must have served at least one tour of duty in the military to be a full Citizen?

As such, you have earned the right for yourself and your family to make use of Government funded Insurance, Education and such. All the leeches either get up and got to work or join the Military, no free rides, period.

Government Officials have limits, are not paid for the rest of their damn life and are not insured for the rest of their life either, unless they also have served at least one full tour in the Military.

Then they might not be so quick to think it's ok to send our troops off the die and kill, then change their minds and pull them out, bring them home, fire them, ignore them and let Pinko's spit on them....

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
5 years 8 weeks ago, 9:57 AM

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There sure as hell ain't none in the media or liberal arts. Where the hell does he think he's gonna find one? Heroes are formed under the pressure of circumstances and events mostly beyond their control. Sports don't count either.

Yes, those who died defending our freedom and their brothers in arms are truly Heroes.

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 9:58 AM

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Jackass.

5 years 8 weeks ago, 10:06 AM

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You got it Vaq. I think this asshat was trying to say that they may not have been doing anything heroic when their time came, but he doesn't seem to get the fact that just putting themselves in harm's way for the republic alone makes them a hero. And to actually sacrifice their lives so that coprophage's like himself can verbal defecate makes them heroes worthy of our honor.

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 12:58 PM

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MSNBC’s Chris Hayes apologizes for questioning use of ‘heroes’ to describe fallen soldiers.

By Dylan Stableford

Senior Media Reporter

Chris Hayes, host of MSNBC's weekend morning talk show "Up," has apologized for comments he made on Sunday about use of the word "hero" to describe fallen U.S. soldiers.

After an interview with Lt. Col. Steve Beck, a former Marine whose job was to notify military families of the death of a loved one, Hayes described his personal discomfort with the term "hero."

"I feel uncomfortable about the word 'hero' because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war," Hayes said. "I don't want to obviously desecrate or disrespect the memory of anyone that's fallen, and obviously there are individual circumstances in which there is genuine, tremendous heroism, you know, hail of gunfire, rescuing fellow soldiers and things like that. But it seems to me that we marshal this word in a way that is problematic. But maybe I'm wrong about that."

The comments, coming on the eve of Memorial Day, sparked a near-immediate backlash. On Monday, Hayes apologized.

[Slideshow: The nation honors military on Memorial Day]

"I don't think I lived up to the standards of rigor, respect and empathy for those affected by the issues we discuss that I've set for myself," Hayes wrote in a blog post on his show's website. "I am deeply sorry for that."

He continued:

As many have rightly pointed out, it's very easy for me, a TV host, to opine about the people who fight our wars, having never dodged a bullet or guarded a post or walked a mile in their boots. Of course, that is true of the overwhelming majority of our nation's citizens as a whole. One of the points made during Sunday's show was just how removed most Americans are from the wars we fight, how small a percentage of our population is asked to shoulder the entire burden and how easy it becomes to never read the names of those who are wounded and fight and die, to not ask questions about the direction of our strategy in Afghanistan, and to assuage our own collective guilt about this disconnect with a pro-forma ritual that we observe briefly before returning to our barbecues.

But in seeking to discuss the civilian-military divide and the social distance between those who fight and those who don't, I ended up reinforcing it, conforming to a stereotype of a removed pundit whose views are not anchored in the very real and very wrenching experience of this long decade of war. And for that I am truly sorry.

5 years 8 weeks ago, 1:33 PM

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To give any credit

At least he manned up and accepted responsibility. Although, I still feel it is more of a "I'm sorry I was caught" than anything else.

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 2:03 PM

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you got it saint.these people are only "sorry" when we all tell them we don't like their attitude.i understand what he was meaning when he said we use the term hero to loosely but i don't fully agree.everyone calls cops and firemen all heroes,and although i don't see it quite like that i would never say to the world that they are not.the fireman who puts out the fire in your car you crashed and can't get out of ,or rushes into a burning house for your kids,or the cop who stops a crackhead from raping your wife,or undercover detective who brings down a crank kingpin before he can hook your family on his poison are heroes to the people they help.

CRY HAVOC and let slip the dogs of war!
5 years 7 weeks ago, 9:02 AM

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Yep

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At least he manned up and accepted responsibility. Although, I still feel it is more of a "I'm sorry I was caught" than anything else.

it was that and nothing more. Liberal media dildo.

5 years 8 weeks ago, 12:59 PM

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:>)

5 years 8 weeks ago, 1:40 PM

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asshat.

this guy needed this ass kicking.dont like how he alleviates his own guilt by saying Of course, that is true of the overwhelming majority of our nation's citizens as a whole" after admitting that he's never been in a military situation.

CRY HAVOC and let slip the dogs of war!

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