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4 years 10 weeks ago, 4:08 PM

Vaquero

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July 4 1776.
Beginning then and more often than not, The USA has been fighting. On our own soil and foreign. What have we historically fought against? What do we fight for?

Then why are we in the shape we are in now?

Food for though guys.

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4 years 10 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

Schuyler

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The consequences recently are a little bit greed spread pretty evenly around with some tweaks by people like Barney Frank who would love to do us harm. I think one basic issue is that we've have misinterpreted equality of opportunity with equality of achievement and that has led to some very stupid decisions including a lot of sub-prime loans. I do think a fair amount of blame can be placed on the banks, but my son-in-law deserves a fair share of blame, too, for being stupid, ignorant, and wanting everything now without earning it first. A couple of extra wars thrown into the mix didn't help, but those alone are not the cause.

Letting 18 year olds vote hasn't helped. The overriding cause there was the argument that if you;re old enough to fight, then you ought to be able to vote. The problem is that it opened up voting to the college campuses where socialism is rampant. as we all know, young folks are idealistic and easily led, plus they have energy. And there's that old saw about, "If you are not a socialist before you are 40 you have no heart. If you are a socialist after 40 you have no head. Sometimes it takes awhile to see the world for what it is. It sure did with me and propaganda spewed by the schools hurts the whole process.

I guess if I had to blame anyone it would be me, as a Baby Boomer, who failed to raise my kids with enough respect and character to make wise decisions. To a certain extent kids are a victim of their times after they get to school and out of our clutches, but nevertheless I don;t think my generation did a good enough job.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
4 years 4 weeks ago, 8:17 AM

TLtactical

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VOTING:
I agree with you about 18 year olds voting and would add that only land owners or military service members past and present earn their right to vote by taking part in the society they are attempting to influence. Allowing 18 year olds to vote or all the uneducated people that cannot read properly and that just live on welfare is illogical in my humble honest opinion.

Would you elect a 30 year old woman on welfare with an 8th grade to the office of President Of The United States?

If not, then why allow this person to chose this person?

KIDS:
I truly hope to high heaven that I do a good job with my children.. I was kind of a tough guy before I had kids... I had wild statements and no worry of recourse and no fear of anything including death... Now for the sake of my children everything is a threat and I worry not only about their safety and forming them into great people, but my own safety as provider for them... I am the guy who has the wife at home with my children and if I were removed, what would happen to them? Besides life insurance that pays the house off and taxes will steal half of what happens next?

This is something for all of us to think about...

Best Regards TL “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” ---Aristotle Greek critic, philosopher, physicist, & zoologist (384 BC - 322 BC)
4 years 10 weeks ago, 4:46 PM

Vaquero

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We fight for

the will of the people over the will of the government! (fucking worldwide!) We always have. Anywhere, anytime.
Our debt has not made us the butt of jokes worldwide, it is the way the district of columbia cages us and feeds us crap! Our forefathers and fathers and brothers fought against the very "government control" that we seemingly accept as "socialists in charge, for now". Tea party extremists are ridiculed for having no blinders and accused of stirring up shit! I'm gonna get a bigger stick and make some GODDAMN NOISE!
Vote guys, if you don't do anything else. VOTE!!!

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 8:21 AM

TLtactical

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When I joined the Army I did so for 2 reasons and in this order:

1. Because I wanted to fight, and it seemed better to fight for a country and get promoted and praised for it rather than arrested... (Foolish Youth!)

2. I wanted to kick butt for my country and protect against any enemies of our people.

I actually believed in too many ideological principals and at age 18 nobody really knows all that much... The older I get the more I understand what our parents and grandparents felt when they called us kids in our 20"s even... I think around age 30 people BEGIN to figure more truth in life, and that is a beginning at best. The more I learn in life the less I actually seem to know....

Make A Difference = We all need to start by changing our own selves! Only then can we truly make changes in this world!

Best Regards TL “It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.” ---Aristotle Greek critic, philosopher, physicist, & zoologist (384 BC - 322 BC)
4 years 10 weeks ago, 5:10 PM

Schuyler

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I understand that is much more common these days. How many people here have already voted? How many are required to physically visit a polling station on election day? I can see the advantage of mail-in, but frankly, I miss going to the polls, even though the window when you can vote is much narrower.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
4 years 10 weeks ago, 5:18 PM

Vaquero

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Next week, as I will be gone on election day.

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4 years 10 weeks ago, 6:26 PM

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I will vote early

It's very simple to do in UT. I like going to the polls with everyone else also, and talking with other voters, but with my health the way it is I don't know how I'll feel on Nov 2.
We have several days to vote early, so I'll pick a day when I feel OK and be sure and vote then.

I encourage everyone, no, I plead with everyone - VOTE! Don't lose the chance to make your voice heard! Exercise your constitutional right, to ensure that you keep it!

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
4 years 10 weeks ago, 6:29 PM

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I think that your post above is 'spot on' and I feel very strongly about this subject in which I will purvey my thoughts in the morning.... (helping my son put the engine to his Subaru back together...Don't ask!).

Change you can truly believe in comes from the barrel of a gun---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron Paul 2012----Vote the bastards out!---------------------------------
4 years 10 weeks ago, 11:49 PM

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Couple of things neat about it.. living rual its like a parking lot of 3/4 and 1 ton dullies.. So maybe one Dem will show all day long.. REAL rare up here.. and theres always a line as its at the senior citizen center, and everyone shows up early.. we could go later, but its fun to stand in line and here the good ol boys and gals talk about whats going on..Sure you can imagine..

Then its party time that night.. This should be one of the best times we've had for awhile..Will see, it really depends on the turn out.. We might lose some good incumbants who are ok troops, but at least it will send a clear sig. about who works for who, and that we were lectured to and not listened to..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
4 years 9 weeks ago, 5:25 AM

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We get our ballots in the mail here, and they always show up about 3 weeks before the deadline. The wife and I always sit down with a pot of coffee and read over what the candidates are all about. The one's we don't know that much about that is. Jan Brewer was a no brainer, as was a couple of the local judges.

We're kind of busy these days, so we actually were kind of looking forward to this because it gave us some time together. Just us. "Alone time" if you will.

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4 years 9 weeks ago, 7:04 AM

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I did the same thing

with my absentee ballot,i also sat down with my 15 year old stepson and we discussed the process of voting and candidates,he was very interested,i'm not voting absentee this year as my polling place is about a block away,a 1896 built town hall.I would also suggest anyone voting take a look at www.nra-ila.com website and review how your candidates stack up on gun issues.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN

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