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7 years 43 weeks ago, 12:01 AM

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When like to hear what you think is a go 1,000 yards caliber is?
5.56/.223
6.5-284
.308
30-06
300 Win Mag
338 Lapua Mag.

You can list any other caliber that is not already listed too.

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 12:11 AM

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a springfield rifle and a good scope allways a good combo something like this
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=113834906

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 12:23 AM

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Great rifle 308

Great rifle but the scope suck. I have used that scope before. Leopold makes a better scope. Springfield M1A is a great rifle.

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7 years 42 weeks ago, 10:10 AM

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yeah, i have a M1A/leupold combo and love it. they are both scouts though. It's no 1000 yd set up

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 12:50 AM

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the 6mm/.243 has a good combination of speed around 2800 to 3000 fps with a 117 grain bullet..
but you can have perfect results with this ones:
7MM/7.2X64 REMINGTON MAG
.408
.50BMG

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 12:59 AM

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I was tring to stay away from the 408 CT and the 50 BMG. The other are some great rounds. Have you heard of a 338 Edge?

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 1:05 AM

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338 edge..

no never heard of it..what's the velocity and what rifles use them..
yeah 408 and .50 are more for 1400 yards or more...

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 1:17 AM

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Now I am sure I was not the first person to neck up the 300 Ultra (RUM) case to .338”. I have in all probability spent considerably more time with the round than anyone else. Jacob Gottfredson wrote an article about my test rifle that published in the October 2000 issue of “The Accurate Rifle”, this article can still be viewed in the “snipers paradise” website. Since initial development we have been refining the 338 Edge to become the most practical “bang for the buck” available to the long range hunter/shooter/tactician.

Our first refinement was to move to 30” match barrel of extreme quality. We chose Hart barrels based on reputation and our experience with them and have never looked back. We currently use others as well but the Hart tubes are the overwhelming majority.

With the longer barrels we started running heavier bullets specifically the Sierra 300 gr. SMK. We can run the 300 SMK 2800-2950 fps depending on the load and individual rifle. What has become our standard load runs right at 2800-2830 fps. While you can run faster this load combo gave extreme velocity spreads of low teens and single digits. Also since we were using a Hodgen “extreme” powder when we tested temperature sensitivity we found it vary less than 30 fps from 20-90 degrees. No other combo we tested came close to this kind of consistency. From my position I will gladly give up 100 fps (or less) for this kind of performance.

Our next refinement was to come up with more robust platforms for military applications. We built and tested based on a Remington 700, Sako extractor w/ dual ejectors, a Sako styled bolt release, a Mauser styled bolt release and blade ejector, a controlled round feed, an M16 extractor and a few others. For extreme use applications the Mauser styled bolt release/blade ejector and the M16 extractor made for the most robust combo.

We developed and launched a line of muzzlebrakes based on testing of multiple designs that took us over 2 years R&D time. You can from a good position watch your bullet strike at almost any distance past 500-600 yards with your rifle scope. This makes spotting your own shot possible.

We have built over 60 338 Edge’s in different configurations at this point, 700 repeaters, 700 detachable box setups, 700 solid bottom single shots, 700 light weights, and customs actions BAT, Lawton, Nesika, etc. Most have been in similar configurations for long range hunting. Most wear the Leupold MK4 or Nightforce NXS optics and weighed in around 14-15.5 lbs. Our main focus lately has been to develop a shorter lighter long range hunting version of the “Edge” and we hope to have completed this project and be testing by fall of 2008.

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 1:28 AM

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Here is the website.

Here is his website www.defensiveedge.net he has some great video of some 1,600 plus yards shots.

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7 years 43 weeks ago, 3:00 AM

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THANKX...

pretty good page and data... some years ago i got a 1 inch to the left of the bullseye thanks to the f..wind at 1400 yards with a M24 3/15 paund pull..with a sub-1 minute angle.. for me is one of the best rifles..i used the 300 win mag and a MARK 4 10x40 M3..

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7 years 42 weeks ago, 10:11 AM

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1,000 yds.

I like .300 Win Mag for that range.
.338 Lapua Mag. is even better but most of the ones mentioned will do

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7 years 42 weeks ago, 3:57 PM

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1000 yard cartridge

6.5-.284 is a sweet one for long range or check into the 6.5 creedmoor it sounds pretty good too

7 years 42 weeks ago, 4:25 PM

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creedmoor

yeah, the creedmor is nice compared to the 5.56... but do you think it can touch the .338 lapua mag?

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7 years 42 weeks ago, 11:30 PM

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Paws, is right.

Paws, is right about the Lapua Mag. The biggest round the 6.5 Creedmoor shoots is a 140 grs. bullet, where the 338 Lapua Mag is shooting a 300 grs. bullet. Lapua Mag is going to have a lot more knock down power. 6.5 Creedmoor will shoot the same distance with less knock down.

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7 years 42 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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lapua mag

as far as a 1000 yd cartridge for match shooting goes the creedmoor would be fine but trying to compare the creed and the lapua mag is kinda like apples and oranges,they both will shoot to 1000 accurately but if you wanna knock over something breathing then obviously the lapua wins

7 years 42 weeks ago, 6:56 PM

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1000 yd

maybe the Weatherby Mark V 30-378.

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7 years 42 weeks ago, 11:24 PM

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30-378 is a 30 caliber bullet just like the 308,30-06,300 Win Mag. The 30-378 is a 378 necked down to a 30 caliber. Like the 6.5-284 round. It is a 284 necked down to 6.5mm.

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 4:53 AM

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Gotta go with either the .338 lapua or the .50 BMG...the .308 might do it in a well conditioned gun

4 years 34 weeks ago, 10:43 AM

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it can do 1000 yards all day long, hell, longer than you I can.

It doesn't cost a left nut to purchase 1000 rounds of it and it doesn't take any special load to do it.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
4 years 34 weeks ago, 1:40 PM

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I just put one aside at a local dealer, a 1917 Eddystone. It's had the stock sporterized, but the rear sights weren't cut and the barrel looks good. Anybody have any experience or opinions on these?

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 4:07 PM

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I'll ask Billy and Don about it in the morning and see what they think.

It is probably a great shooter if it hasn't been beat up.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!

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