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5 years 31 weeks ago, 11:30 AM

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I understand the physical difference. Where would 1 be better to use than another? Under what conditions. I haven't even looked thru an electronic optic. I need some help here...
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5 years 31 weeks ago, 12:55 PM

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the electronic optics would be better in low light situations because most have an illuminated reticle. I find the illuminated reticle easier for quick target acquisition. for longer ranges I prefer a scope.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 12:57 PM

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Ok, I think I see

The electrontic optics is like the EOtech? Asog?

5 years 31 weeks ago, 12:59 PM

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sure. (ACOG- advanced combat optical gunsight)

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 5:52 PM

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You can get scopes

with illuminated reticle for low light to. The Electronic Optics are setup for only ranges of 0 to 400 yards or meters.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 5:57 PM

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but only using it for max 100 yards, in daylight. I have the 12 ga for dark. Going to trijicons on my Glock.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:02 PM

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Nothing like a good 12 gauge to get things done.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:04 PM

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did you see the pic of the Tapcon that I bought and posted the pic? What do you think of these? I am almost afraid to ask. HaHa

5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:20 PM

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that you got for $36.00? Not a bad little scope for that price for sure. Tasco does make some good scopes.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:23 PM

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Yeah, Tasco

sorry Tapcons are screws. I have all the parts now to build the 10/22. So I have to get Christmas lights up 1st and then put it together.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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Christmas lights up.LOL So, all is well with the wife and me for that.LOL Yes, the Tasco is a good scope. I like the Tasco for a good and cheap scope to use. I know they have got a lot cheaper over the years. A Tasco red dot that I bought about 10 to 12 years ago I see I can buy it now for around $40 now. I payed $150 for them 10 to 12 years ago for them. Time has change the price for sure.LOL

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:16 AM

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legal use

samD,
In some states, electronic optics are illegal to use for hunting. If you are trying to decide for hunting, you might check the regs in your area. If for self defense, I concur with Reaper about range. The use of Tapcons usually require a pilot hole. I like the blue screws for concrete, but I think Hilti has superior products for concrete anchoring, including the mastic.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:25 AM

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Hey Clint

Great to hear from you. Hope you are feeling better. As I don't hunt anymore, it is for target and range use only. I really didn't know the use for the electronics. Now I understand. I would like to have a buck for every Tapcon I have broken off. In the southwest here we are surrounded by block, brick & concrete. I have an older remington I believe .22 powered driver. Hit it with a hammer after it is loaded and works ok. Use it for putting threaded studs in. No more dirty pictures at work or the thought police will get you. if Seattle is so liberal, why not get the ACLU in your defense of watching what you want. LOL

5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:31 AM

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The ACLU only takes the cases that further their agenda, looking at beautiful women in the workplace does not further their agenda. I have used the Remington actuator as well. For quick use there is nothing better than powder actuated nail drivers. And you get the great smell of cordite after every use...

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:37 AM

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ACLU stands for

Amerikan Communist Lawyers Association. Yeah try to get one of these wonks to defend your 2nd Ammendment rights.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 10:19 AM

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Red dot vs. Scope

ACOGs are not electronic sights. Most models have a tritium-illuminated reticle, and some have a combination of tritium and fiber optic for gathering what ambient light there is. The ACOG bridges the gap between red-dot sights and dedicated scopes, as the four power magnification you find on the common models allows for decent accurcy ad moderate ranges, but is low enough to allow for decent speed when firing in a close combat environment. Another good sight is the Leupold MK1 cq/t sight which is variable power. The EO Tech is a wonderful sight as far as getting on target quickly, but the battery life sucks. The overall best electronic sight I have used is the Aimpoint Comp m-series. They are very sturdy and have a great battery life. I'm hoping to get an aimpoint to replace my eo tech so I can zero, turn it on, and put it in the closet, and only change the battery every 4 months. It'll actually stay on for over a year on one battery, but better safe than sorry.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 10:21 AM

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Thank you runaway

Good info.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 10:23 AM

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i understand that the acog isn't technically electronic, but its close enough (illuminated). why don't you get one of those, no battery required... price?

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 11:08 AM

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I don't like them

The ACOG is a great compromise, giving decent accuracy at range and decent speed up close. My primary use for my Bushmaster is training and home defense, so the speed advantage over the ACOG afforded by the red dot sight outweighs the accuracy advantage the ACOG gives. And yes, the 1000+ dollars does play a factor.

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