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3 years 48 weeks ago, 8:42 PM

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what do i have?

ok , i got ahold of an old bolt action rifle today and i'm not sure what it is. i will try to add some pics,but so far i haven't been very good at it. anyway it says fabrica de armas, oviedo 1921. so far i think i found that it is a 7mm mauser. i have also been told they converted these to 7.62 nato. (308) how can i tell if it has been done to this one? there are no other markings on it to indicate caliber. it does have serial numbers that match. it has also been sporterised, ( stock cut down, and bolt pull lever bent down ) i think they were supposed to be straight out. it is top load and holds maybe 4 rounds. has magazine bottom plate release on front of trigger gaurd. can any one tell me some more about this rifle? i would kinda like to figure out what cal. it is before i go buying rounds to see what fits.

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 8:47 PM

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Did you try...

Did you try running the serial number through Google? also if there is a serial there very well might be a model number which would also be one to Google. Even without the make, the model should show up...

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 8:51 PM

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kinda

i did google it and thats how i found out what i think i know. (i think) i found a lot of pics with the full stock on them, but mine has been cut down. i think i have the right one but i have been wrong before. (i would never admitt it though)

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 8:52 PM

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I know on some older guns markings may be on the bottom of the barrel I would take off the stock and see if there are any markings .....just a thought

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 9:03 PM

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ok

i am going to take it all the way down and clean it up good but haven't got that far yet. i hope maybe something is there. i'm pretty sure it is supposed to be a 7mm mauser, but i don't know if it has been re-chambered for the .308. i don't know how to tell either. except put a shell in it. it looks original, but i'm not sure what original looks like. thanks ya'll

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 9:16 PM

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pics

i think i did get a pic to up or down load for this let me know if it helps ( i know it isn't the best but it's my best)

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 9:19 PM

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Local gun Smith?

I'd probably see if anyone at the local range happened to have chamber gauges, or a local gun smith...

Also you should look for Armory Markings...
Most firearms have a symbol which depicts the Armory where it is manufactured..

Might give you a heads up on the the Make and then the serial number should give you the model...

I do know a lot of the European fire arms brought in as surplus were re-chambered for plinking, target competition and hunting over the years after WWII.

This site might be of some help with hints to what you should look for as far as markings go...

http://www.milsurpafterhours.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4624

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 12:17 AM

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Get a gunsmith to check the chamber.
You want to shoot it, not wear it if it blows

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 6:04 AM

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ok

ok thanks i agree i'm not a big fan of stuff blowing up i don't want to.

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 9:30 AM

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It sounds like you have a spanish mauser. If it was converted to 7.62, there should be a stamp on the receiver or bbl. You should definitely have it checked before you shoot it

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 11:35 AM

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I would DEFINITELY (wish I could underline that) take this to a qualified gunsmith BEFORE doing ANYTHING with this weapon. You dont want this thing malfunctioning and hurting you or anyone else. Have the gunsmith check the caliber and make sure evrything is in safe working condition to be safe and good luck with the purchase. Enjoy!

3 years 48 weeks ago, 2:33 PM

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believe me

i will not try to fire it untill i am sure about it. that kinda stuff scares the hell out of me. i saw a guy shoot a home made 410 pipe gun once and i will never do anything like that. it made the so called gun look like a bugs bunny cartoon. and made his hand look worse. (idiot) he made it, he shot it, he paid for it!!!! that's what i am doing today is going to the shop to find out about it. i did take the stock off and there is nothing on it at all. i did find a number 7 on the bottom of the barrel but that is it. and while i am thinking about it i found a place in Alaska that makes gun adapters for rifles to make a .308,.30-06 i think about any .30 cal rifle shoot 7.62x39 ammo. that stuff is cheap and you can shoot as long as your shoulder will hold up. very easy job also just insert into chamber and go. as soon as i get mine i will let you know. thanks everyone

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 9:07 AM

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put your face right beside the barrel and let 'er rip. Okay, that was a joke. Put someone else's face next to the barrel and let 'er rip with a 50 foot cord tied to the trigger.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 9:29 AM

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ok

i will ask my infamous ex brother in law to test it for me. i haven't had time to take this thing to a gunsmith yet, still tore down on my bench. got a glock 23 i have been playing with inbetween snow storms. i will get back to it pretty soon tho, i think it is original 7mm mauser tho it is mauser workings and doesn't look as tho anything else has been done to it. but i will let the expert tell me so.

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3 years 32 weeks ago, 9:45 AM

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Sounds like an Argentine Mauser to me. And yes, A gunsmith can gauge the chamber and tell you what caliber it is.If it had been bored out to a 7.62 it would have to have been rebarreled as the 7mm is a .284 diameter and 7.62 is a .30 caliber. The barrels on those rifles usually were'nt thick enough to drill out and rifle to a bigger caliber.

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