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4 years 15 weeks ago, 10:51 PM

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I've read quite a few discussions on SHTF scenarios, and what would you do, and where would you go, and things like that, but I think making a decent point is difficult unless you are on the same page in terms of what kind of scenarios we're discussing. With that in mind, I'd like to go over a few different types of scenarios that each have different priorities and would require a different plan. Because to me, someone breaking into my house in the middle of the night is a SHTF scenario, as it is something that directly affects the life, liberty, and welfare of my family and I.

Type 1: Act of domestic terrorism. This is a scenario that has occurred several times within my lifetime (32 years old). I am not bringing politics into this, so my definition of this type of act includes any attack on public or government infrastructure or facilities. The OKC bombing, active shooter events (Columbine, VA Tech, Luby's Cafeteria, etc), WTC attack, these types of incidents should be planned for with family action plans such as alternate modes of communication and predesignated meeting spots to ensure accountability of family.

Type 2: Natural disaster. Depending on the type, you may have to evacuate or you may be stuck wherever you are. I no longer live in Kansas, so tornados and snow storms really aren't a concern. However, living in southern Arizona, wildfires are. The type of weather-related events you need to prepare for are specific to your region. Remember, though, that you may not be home with your 3000 gallon water storage and doomsday vault when the heavens open and dump the snow and ice on your head.

Type 3: Civil unrest. This may, as we've seen, follow a natural disaster, increasing the amounts and types of materials needed as well as change the nature of the mission from surviving nature's indifference to surviving nature and criminals. We have also seen that emergency services may become overwhelmed very quickly and may not be effective again for weeks.

Type 4: Martial law/police state/foreign power invasion. This is a scenario in which each person must decide whether the benefits of personal liberty and a sense of right outweigh the continued standard of living and infrastructure available by being on the side of the government.

Type 5: Complete societal breakdown. With the end of the Cold War, this type of scenario is extremely unlikely and should not be given much in the way of consideration. I know many will disagree with me, but those who really worry about this situation are not priortizing very well. Having said that, if you are prepared for this type of event, you are also likely to be at least reasonably well prepared for the others. This is what I call the Out of the Ashes scenario, because I enjoy reading that book series, even if I think the author is a bit of a kook.

These types of scenarios are my list, and I do not make any claims about being some kind of expert on the classification of bad days. Based on my list here, I will be posting my ideas and opinions on what the priorities in terms of equipment, planning, and training/skills a person should focus on.

Oh, and there is the Type 6, Zombie takeover, but I think that is covered by preparing for type 5.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 11:14 PM

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I own 13 acres of good land with lots of
trees and natural covers. I have the deed
in my security box. We are a long way from
anything so really not too much to worry
about but wife and I will defend it to our
death. We worked hard for it, it is ours
and no one can or will take it away from us

I have a good supply of guns, most not
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I really want to get back into loading. It will
come soon.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:54 PM

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I'am Preparing for

Civil War 2, or Zombie invasion!

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 5:49 PM

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1 thru 3 as i have my weapons, generator, and food plus my pellet stove. Floods and tornados don't happen here because were up in a mountainous region. Snow is no big deal so use to dealing with it the snow fall would have to be measured in 3 plus feet to really keep us home.

4 well I have my weapons along with a couple of buddies guess we would have to protect the home stead.

5 I'm heading into the deep woods and going native. Friends have a camp deep in the maine woods.

6 Bring it on time to nut up or shut up.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 2:15 PM

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I actually read your several scenario's. Number 1, and the family planing is a good idea, but you should add what your actions will be. If you carry you should learn defensive. Most training is geared for police or SWAT that people are taking which is not what you need to do in a Type 1 scenario. Type 2, Natural disaster has a lot of new info and you should contact your local disaster preparedness center. After the Katrina mess I think we have learned alot. Number 3, Civil Unrest is always an interesting one. Police are learning the lessons of Katrina on this. Having a go pack, and enough food and water for a few weeks should make things easy. You can do this on the cheep with Rice and Water / purifier. That and a small flame unit. Again natural disaster training is what you need. Number 4. If you want to die fight city hall, if not follow the instructions. If anyone thinks they can take on our military then they should leave this great country. Try to find a better place to put up with you. Number 5. Being a Cold War veteran and a SAC member, I do not believe the Cold War is over. We might not be in conflict with the USSR, but we are with other Nuclear Nations. For the next 50 years we still have the power to completely destroy any other power. But would you want to live in a world like that. I would rather be at ground zero.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 2:18 PM

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I noted that you have me as an Army Sgt. That is nice but I was an Air Force Ssgt and that is what I would like to stay. Maybe you have Air Force Stuff. Thanks Vic

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 2:27 PM

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Vic, rank

really doesn't mean much here at Gunslot except for El presidente samD that is. There really is no choice.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 5:56 PM

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Leave me at Sgt. I think my date of rank for that was 1982

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 6:10 PM

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post away. Look at me, I was just a lowly airframe and power plant tech MOS AD, E-3 in the USCG and now I am SOHS....who knew? lol. Welcome to Gunslot by the way!

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 6:21 PM

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You push someone else out of the way. For a brief time I was SOHS, but Hamp just bulldozed his way past me with nary a care. Now I'm just a chump change five star general. Click on your profile, then click on your rank and there's some info on it. No one takes it too seriously. It's just a relative measurement of contribution level. I'll get a point for this, and if Hamp replies, "I agree" he'll get a point as well. Meh?

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3 years 46 weeks ago, 12:25 PM

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And I will take that

point Schuyler, thank you very much.....Now quit feeling sorry for yourself, you are now SHS..lol

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 6:25 PM

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 7:03 AM

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What type of SHTF scenario am I planning for? Sniping perverts like you and ebear off my lawn. yeah that works for me.

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3 years 46 weeks ago, 12:01 PM

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Another thought

How much effort do you put into physical preparedness in these situation eventually the fuel will give out and we will be using the boot leather express agreed?

3 years 46 weeks ago, 2:15 PM

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My take on SHTF

My take on SHTF preparedness.

1. Make sure everyone in your household has a 72 hour kit packed with everything you need for 72 hours food water first aid items etc. The hard part here is making sure you are never without it or that at least it is never very far from you. Keep it in your car or have one in your office for example.

2. Stock your home with enough long-term food storage, water and/or water purification, and other necessities to support your household for 3 months. Start with the bare necessities and work your way up to the things you can live without but will make living nicer/easier.

3. Have a get out of town plan, a fully stocked trailer or motorhome or have your home storage set up in a way that it can quickly be packed up and moved.

4. Build on step 2 until you have 6 months, 12 months, and so on so you have what you need to survive for as long as possible. Also take steps to fortify your home and/or have the materials and skills to do so. Sooner or later someone will try to take what you have and will succeed if you can't/won't stop them.

The means to defend yourself and those around you should be incorperated wherever you can manage, as well as communication gear whether it be basic like a signal mirror or more high tech like a shortwave radio. I know this is a little non-specific, but I feel this is the best way for all around preparedness to help you get through all 5 SHTF scenarios.

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