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5 years 48 weeks ago, 6:35 PM

Warner357

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Whats in it?

Whats the advantage of being an NRA member? I've heard of the NRA many years ago and just never knew what they do and whats in it.

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:14 PM

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I joined at the last gun show. If you have an e-mail they keep you up on the law suits to protect your rights.

5 years 48 weeks ago, 9:14 AM

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The NRA is a political action organization, or they could be classified as a lobbyist. If you agree with a certain lobbyist, they are a great tool for political action. I am a life member of the NRA because I see the work they do to protect the constition by protecting the second amendment.

This is an over simplified explanation.

clint

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 10:43 AM

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I joined about a year ago and like Death from Above said they keep you up to date on whats going on. There are some other perks also but nothing more important that protecting the second amendment.

"Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." Thomas Jefferson---------------------------------------------------------- Happiness is a beer in one hand and a gun in the other!
5 years 48 weeks ago, 10:56 AM

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To understand Barack Obama on the Second Amendment, you have to know about the clash of character between the then-Chicago state senator and an ordinary citizen who exercised his right to armed self-defense in violation of a local gun ban.

That citizen was a 52-year-old resident of Wilmette, Illinois, who, on Dec. 28, 2003, woke to find that, during the night, his home had been invaded by a career criminal; a thief who stole household items, keys and the homeowner’s car.

The victim, Hale DeMar, described his fear in a letter to the Chicago Sun- Times: “For me, the seconds until I found my children still safely tucked in their beds were horrifying . . . The police were called and in routine fashion they came, took the report and with little concern left, promising to increase surveillance. Little comfort, since the invader now had keys to our home and our automobiles. The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences . . .” Not 24 hours after the first burglary, the thief returned. Using DeMar’s house keys, the man entered the home, this time setting off the alarm system, automatically notifying the security company. Given the previous night’s lackluster response by police, DeMar was prepared, armed with a handgun--legally purchased years before and kept in a safe. But under Wilmette’s gun ban, that firearm in the home was illegal.

Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment “ but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.”
DeMar confronted the criminal, and believing his children were in danger, shot the burglar, who then fled the home.

“Until you are shocked by a piercing alarm in the middle of the night and met in your kitchen by a masked invader as your children shudder in their beds, until you confront that very real nightmare, please don’t suggest that some village trustee knows better “ “If my actions have spared only one family from the distress and trauma that this habitual criminal has caused hundreds of others, then I have served my civic duty and taken one evil creature off of our streets, something that our impotent criminal justice system had failed to do, despite some thirty odd arrests, plea bargains and suspended sentences.” The burglar, who was arrested after driving DeMar’s stolen SUV to a hospital, had an extensive criminal record.

Cook County prosecutors ultimately declared DeMar’s use of a firearm to be justified. But Wilmette village officials pressed nonetheless to prosecute him for illegal possession of his handgun--a charge punishable by a huge fine and jail time. A town official was quoted in Reason magazine saying, “We need to set the example that we’re trying to protect our citizens.” And he said, DeMar--by possessing a legally purchased handgun--”is endangering innocent civilians.” The outcry of the Illinois public was heard all the way to the state capitol.

As a result, the Illinois House and Senate passed legislation in May 2004 to protect citizens who use handguns in self-defense in their homes or businesses despite local handgun bans.

The House accepted the DeMar selfdefense bill by a vote of 86-25 and the Senate moved the legislation on a 38-20 vote.

And here lies the seminal moment for state Senator Barack Obama. When Obama turned thumbs down on the bill, he voted against the most basic element of the Second Amendment-- the right of defense of self and family-- the reason that millions of Americans own firearms.

When the governor vetoed the bill, Obama once again voted against a citizen’s right to self-defense. Despite his vote, the veto override passed the Senate and the House by overwhelming majorities, thereby enacting this bill into law.

Now, fast forward to today’s slippery oratory of U.S. Sen. Barack Obama just three years from being an unknown state senator--now morphed by the media into a spellbinding U.S. senator seeking to be president of the United States.

Using words like “protecting sportsmen,” Obama is now saying that he believes in the Second Amendment “ but with almost universal exceptions, all of which he lists under the heading of “common sense gun safety laws.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like endorsing the D.C. gun ban, which outlaws armed self-defense in the home--now being challenged before the U.S. Supreme Court. Obama, who as president would be in the position to nominate justices to that high court, has declared that the D.C. ban doesn’t violate the Second Amendment.

Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false.

“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? In a “1998 National Political Awareness Test,” he pledged to support a “Ban [on] the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons”--meaning most handguns and many rifles and shotguns that you and I own.

“Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like demanding that the federal government preempt the 40 hard-won state laws creating Right-to-Carry.

Here’s how the Chicago Tribune put it: “Obama said he opposed allowing ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons and that a federal law banning concealed carried weapons except for law enforcement is needed.” “Common sense gun safety” and the Second Amendment? Like the draconian proposals funded to the tune of $18,000,000 by the rabidly anti-gun Joyce Foundation while Obama was an activist member of its board of directors.

Obama’s alleged support of the Second Amendment is utterly cynical and false. Barack Obama is not for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms; he's out to destroy it

5 years 48 weeks ago, 1:11 PM

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I cannot remember if with former president Clinton in office was there talk of banning the sale of hand guns or not...I am sure that most liberals would not spend as much time to up hold the second ammendent but i don't think that removing the rights of citizens to bear arms is high on his agenda given the current state of the economy and foreign affairs...I sit firmly in the middle and probably swing my feet to the right when I decide to jump off the fence...but I can say that I am tired of the last eight years...I served proudly under president Bush sr. and also under President Clinton...But I am tired of Jr...I am tired of watching kids come home to nothing...no help...no jobs...nothing and why? For oil? Come on oil prices have never been so high as they have since we invaded IRAQ...we shoulda been in Afganasthan going after the mutha@@#$@ that sent those towers crashing down and not getting in the middle of a "holy war" that has been going on for years and probably will continue to go on cause people are always going to believe that "they" are right. If I have to fight to keep my rights to bear arms under a liberal system the put em up cause I am ready...but if I can do something to change the way that this great nation of ours is going, and try to get it back to a middle ground for the sake of my children than I have to think long and hard about giving somebody else a chance.

5 years 48 weeks ago, 2:10 PM

Warner357

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i think if they did for some stupid reason, do away with the 2nd amendment then how is the average law biting man or women supposed to defend themselves? there was a guy that live on the 2nd floor right under men that got robbed by two black guys with a gun. he pretty much had no choice but to give up to them and could have lost his life. Lucky for him he is just fine. This place was suppose to have locked gates, key cards, and security.

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 2:13 PM

Anonymous

your right.

i agree no one should take our right to bear arms.

5 years 48 weeks ago, 3:11 PM

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mrn84d,

Please remember that congress has been controlled by the democrats for the last 2 years.

It could be argued that the economy is the way it is because we were attacked. Why were we attacked? Well there is only speculation. I hypothesize that we did not do enough to secure our borders during the Clinton administration to prevent an attack the magnitude of 9/11.

I do agree with the Holy War analogy you present. The Middle East has been at war with itself for centuries. The Sunni's fighting with the Shiites fighting with the Christians fighting with the Jews. (Isn't it so surreal to think that they all believe in the same God, but with a different name?) The leaders are ordained through religion. I believe the only recently elected government in the region is Israel (the Shah of Iran was over thrown in the 80's). I have faith that an elected government in Iraq will quell the violence if not for the only reason that people are given hope. Hope that there is another way. The elite in the Islamic world feed on the fear and hopelessness of the people. Elections even the playing field by giving each citizen the same power as each citizen. The dictators know this and thus are afraid enough of America's example, that they will attack her.

Having an elected government would also help with intelligence. One of the reasons we have become vulnerable to attack is because we rely on technology (satellites) too much. We need boots on the ground and in the back yards, at the BBQ's etc gathering information. With an elected government in Iraq, we would have a forward base of operations.

There is no easy answer, there never will be. We, the citizens of America, all have opinions that we can voice, the Constitution gives us this right. The second amendment gives us, the citizens of America, the right to defend the rest of the Constitution. This is why I believe samD is so passionate about his postings and opinions on the interpretation he has of the Presidential candidates. I happen to agree with most of his Constitutional interpretations.

clint

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 5:49 AM

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Well stated sir I agree

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