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8 years 38 weeks ago, 2:24 PM


ssrs10's picture

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Oct 2008
Connecticut, United States
Why liberals suck.

This story is just absurd/tragic. From the state where everyone supposedly should have enough support where this type of thing shouldn't happen.....

Distraught Wilmington dad Ervin Lupoe likely shot wife Ana and kids day before killing self

The distraught California dad who wiped out his family before killing himself said in a suicide note the mass murder was his wife's idea.

"After a horrendous ordeal, my wife felt it better to end our lives and why leave the children in someone else's hands," Ervin Lupoe wrote in the note he faxed to a Los Angeles TV station.

After typing his name, Lupoe printed an anguished postscript: "Oh Lord my God is there no hope for a widow's son?"

The letter, which appeared on the KABC-TV Web site Wednesday, reveals the writer clearly did not think so.

It also shed more light on why Lupoe shot his wife and kids execution style in the heads before shooting himself.

Lupoe was despondent because he and his wife were canned from their jobs as X-ray technicians at Kaiser Permanente West Los Angeles Medical Center.

He began his "tragic story" by introducing himself and his doomed spouse, Ana.

Then he listed their kids and their ages: Brittney, 8; twin daughters Jaszmin and Jassely, 5; and twins boys Benjamin and Christian, both "2 yrs 4 mo."

"My wife and I were being investigated for misrepresentation of our employment to an outside agency," Lupoe continued.

In a pre-Christmas questioning, Lupoe claimed an administrator told him: "You should not even had bothered to come to work today you should have blown your brains out."

"It seems Kiaser (sic) Permanente want's (sic) us to kill ourselves and take our family with us," he wrote.

Kaiser Permanente confirmed the couple was fired "after an internal investigation" but gave no details. "We are confident that no one told him to take his own life or the lives of his family," the statement said.

KABC-TV called the cops when they got the fax, which arrived around the time police dispatchers got a call from a man who said, "I just returned home and my whole family's been shot."

Police suspect the caller was Lupoe, who was found dead with a revolver by his side Tuesday at his home in Wilmington, a suburb wedged between the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach.

The sight of so much carnage horrified even the most hardened police officers, witnesses said.

"The reaction on their faces was not a pretty sight," neighbor Jasmine Gomez told CNN. "There was an officer who came out of the house throwing up."

It was the fifth mass death of a family by murder or suicide in California - a state hit hit by the recession and mortgage meltdown - since last February.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
8 years 38 weeks ago, 3:10 PM


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Nov 2008
Bainbridge Island, Washington, United States

after an internal investigation. They did something bad enough to get their asses canned. Then, if the story is accurate, they lied about their firing to an 'outside agency,' probably the unemployment bureau. That was a screw up on more than one level (I'm speculating here, of course) because if you get fired, the onus is on the employer to prove you were fired for cause. If you quit, the onus is upon you to prove you quit for cause. If you are laid off, unemployment is a pretty sure thing. In most cases, the employer pays a percentage into the unemployment fund and it doesn't matter to them if you get unemployment or not. For such a large company as Kaiser, it probably wouldn't even affect their experience rating (which can raise their rates). So bottom line is that these two were not laid off BECAUSE of the recession. There WAS a liberal 'safety net' there for them, but they chose not to use it. It sounds like this is copied from a newspaper account.

It's a sad case with pretty screwed up individuals, but I'm not sure it speaks to liberalism at all, unless it is the reporter's last sentence trying to tie this to the recession.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
8 years 38 weeks ago, 3:13 PM


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Magalia, California

Anybody with a weak enough mind to do as the Kaiser says (lol) well I guess didn't deserve this, but definately deserved a good ass whoopin. But its a sad story when there is kids involved.

"You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learned doctors." "You're not a doctor. You're a big, fat, curly-headed fuck."
8 years 38 weeks ago, 4:23 PM


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Oct 2008
Hamburg, NY
Its bush's fault

X-ray techs are in demand....fucking move to buffalo, do not kill anyone
But this must be the bush administrations fault

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8 years 38 weeks ago, 5:59 PM


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Nov 2008
Richland, MO, United States
"Just kill yourself"

Yeah, that's how the Kaiser rolls. Hah hah. Get it? Kaiser rolls. Oh, I kill me. Wait, no I don't. I still have a job. Thank god and G-dub. But mostly G-dub.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
8 years 38 weeks ago, 7:28 PM


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Jan 2009
Newport, Wa
Weak pathetic people

I can not believe a person could shoot one of their children little alone five of them. There are thousands of unemployed parents in America that provide for their children just fine. You just have to live a more simple life, and you can be just as happy if not more so. People like this, and I use the word people losely do not diserve children. With stuff like this happening it just makes the gun grabbers job easier.

“If ever time should come,when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in government, our country will stand in need of it's experienced Patriots to prevent it's ruin."Samuel Adams
8 years 38 weeks ago, 7:45 PM


being unemployed

the one great thing about it is i get to spend a lot more time with my kids!

8 years 38 weeks ago, 8:35 PM


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Nov 2008
i wonder if

he owned his gun legaly in CA? just thinkin

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