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6 years 26 weeks ago, 11:21 AM

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The Year 2025

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Friday, November 21, 2008

The next two decades will see a world living with the daily threat of nuclear war, environmental catastrophe and the decline of America as the dominant global power, according to a frighteningly bleak assessment by the U.S. intelligence community.

"The world of the near future will be subject to an increased likelihood of conflict over resources, including food and water, and will be haunted by the persistence of rogue states and terrorist groups with greater access to nuclear weapons," said the report by the National Intelligence Council.

The analysts said that the report had been prepared in time for Barack Obama's entry into the Oval office on January 20, where he will be faced with some of the greatest challenges of any newly-elected president.

"The likelihood that nuclear weapons will be used will increase with expanded access to technology and a widening range of options for limited strikes," the 121-page assessment said.

Click here to read the report in full

The analysts draw attention to an already escalating nuclear arms race in the Middle East and anticipate that a growing number of rogue states will be prepared to share their destructive technology with terror groups.

"Over the next 15-20 years reactions to the decisions Iran makes about its nuclear program could cause a number of regional states to intensify these efforts and consider actively pursuing nuclear weapons," the report Global Trends 2025 said. "This will add a new and more dangerous dimension to what is likely to be increasing competition for influence within the region," it said.

The spread of nuclear capabilities will raise questions about the ability of weak states to safeguard them, it added. "If the number of nuclear-capable states increases, so will the number of countries potentially willing to provide nuclear assistance to other countries or to terrorists."

The report, a year in the making, said that global warming will aggravate the scarcity of water, food and energy resources. Citing a British study, it said that climate change could force up to 200 million people to migrate to more temperate zones. "Widening gaps in birth rates and wealth-to-poverty ratios, and the impact of climate change, could further exacerbate tensions," it said.

The report says the warming earth will extend Russia and Canada's growing season and ease their access to northern oil fields, strengthening their economies. But Russia's potential emergence as a world power may be clouded by lagging investment in its energy sector, persistent crime and government corruption, the report says.

"The international system will be almost unrecognizable by 2025, owing to the rise of emerging powers, a globalizing economy, a transfer of wealth from West to East, and the growing influence of non-state actors. Although the United States is likely to remain the single most powerful actor, the United States' relative strength -- even in the military realm -- will decline and US leverage will become more strained."

Global power will be multipolar with the rise of India and China, and the Korean peninsula will be unified in some form. Turning to the current financial situation, the analysts say that the financial crisis on Wall Street is the beginning of a global economic rebalancing.

The U.S. dollar's role as the major world currency will weaken to the point where it becomes a "first among equals."

"Strategic rivalries are most likely to revolve around trade, investments and technological innovation, but we cannot rule out a 19th-century-like scenario of arms races, territorial expansion and military rivalries." The report, based on a global survey of experts and trends, was more pessimistic about America's global status than previous outlooks prepared every four years. It said that outcomes will depend in part on the actions of political leaders. "The next 20 years of transition to a new system are fraught with risks," it said.

The analysts also give warning that the kind of organized crime plaguing Russia could eventually take over the government of an Eastern or Central European country, and that countries in Africa and South Asia may find themselves ungoverned, as states wither away under pressure from security threats and diminishing resources..

The intelligence community expects that terrorism would survive until 2025, but in slightly different form, suggesting that Al Qaeda's "terrorist wave" might be breaking up. "Al Qaeda's inability to attract broad-based support might cause it to decay sooner than people think," it said.

On a positive note it added that an alternative to oil might be in place by 2025.

The Times of London and Associated Press contributed to this report.

6 years 26 weeks ago, 11:39 AM

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what about the year 2009?

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
6 years 26 weeks ago, 12:21 PM

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2009

Is gonna be a pain because of OBAMA

6 years 26 weeks ago, 12:40 PM

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6 years 26 weeks ago, 12:57 PM

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Name of vids please.

6 years 26 weeks ago, 1:08 PM

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Just look at my videos. Your name is on 2 of them. Good God boy, don't be so lazy. I heard that you were so lazy, that you married a pregnant woman...

6 years 26 weeks ago, 1:01 PM

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been snipe hunting lately?

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6 years 26 weeks ago, 1:28 PM

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6 years 26 weeks ago, 1:31 PM

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Why we can use yours

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6 years 26 weeks ago, 2:47 PM

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Highjackers

Are a real problem in east eatonville Washington....lol No Offense Grease:)

6 years 26 weeks ago, 7:37 PM

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I can't believe people are still concerned about Global Warming...it is a fantasy in my book. I am a meteorologist/climatologist and I was never convinced and won't be, our earth has been COOLING for 10 years and is expected to cool for another 10 years!!! Haha...shit, 3LINES!!!! Anyway, the only thing that is certain is this: Nobody knows for sure and despite what the media says, for every expert that says man is responsible for Global Warming, there is another that says we are not. In addition, there is a lot of disagreement as to whether the earth is actually cooling. Trust me, we can't forecast the weather with 100 percent accuracy 5 DAYS in the future, yet scientists are telling me they can forecast global warming trends for the next 25-50 years...HAHA. What a joke!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/02/a_tale_of_two_thermometers/

In addition, I worked at a Solar Observatory (two separate times, total of almost 4 years)...and the guy I worked with, Dr. Kennewell, one of the top solar pysicists in the entire world thinks that any warming is more likely related to sunspot activity/number...as explained below.

Some other hypotheses departing from the consensus view have been suggested to explain most of the temperature increase. One such hypothesis proposes that warming may be the result of variations in solar activity.[29][30][31]

A paper by Peter Stott and other researchers suggests that climate models overestimate the relative effect of greenhouse gases compared to solar forcing; they also suggest that the cooling effects of volcanic dust and sulfate aerosols have been underestimated.[32] They nevertheless conclude that even with an enhanced climate sensitivity to solar forcing, most of the warming since the mid-20th century is likely attributable to the increases in greenhouse gases.

Two researchers at Duke University, Bruce West and Nicola Scafetta, have estimated that the Sun may have contributed about 45–50 percent of the increase in the average global surface temperature over the period 1900–2000, and about 25–35 percent between 1980 and 2000.[33]

A different hypothesis is that variations in solar output, possibly amplified by cloud seeding via galactic cosmic rays, may have contributed to recent warming.[34] It suggests magnetic activity of the sun is a crucial factor which deflects cosmic rays that may influence the generation of cloud condensation nuclei and thereby affect the climate.[35]

One predicted effect of an increase in solar activity would be a warming of most of the stratosphere, whereas an increase in greenhouse gases should produce cooling there.[36] The observed trend since at least 1960 has been a cooling of the lower stratosphere.[37] Reduction of stratospheric ozone also has a cooling influence, but substantial ozone depletion did not occur until the late 1970s.[38] Solar variation combined with changes in volcanic activity probably did have a warming effect from pre-industrial times to 1950, but a cooling effect since.[3] In 2006, Peter Foukal and colleagues found no net increase of solar brightness over the last 1,000 years. Solar cycles led to a small increase of 0.07 percent in brightness over the last 30 years. This effect is too small to contribute significantly to global warming.[39][40] One paper by Mike Lockwood and Claus Fröhlich found no relation between global warming and solar radiation since 1985, whether through variations in solar output or variations in cosmic rays.[41] Henrik Svensmark and Eigil Friis-Christensen, the main proponents of cloud seeding by galactic cosmic rays, disputed this criticism of their hypothesis.[42] A 2007 paper found that in the last 20 years there has been no significant link between changes in cosmic rays coming to Earth and cloudiness and temperature.[43][44][45

Bottom line, like I mentioned earlier, nobody really knows and before we go pumping so much money into preventing warming, shouldn't we be sure? Now, I will grant that some of the stuff suggested that we should do to help the environment are good things, but I don't think we should get too carried away.

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6 years 26 weeks ago, 7:42 PM

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I have read

that total global warming is not even 1 deg F. It is like .9 deg. This can be very cyclical indeed. We had a mini ice age within the last 500 years or so. Don't fuck with Mother nature. Yes, we do have to take care of planet earth, but none of us are getting out alive anyway. Let's not screw it up intentionally.

6 years 26 weeks ago, 7:59 PM

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When I was in elementary school, the same liberals were predicting Global Cooling becuase of the population. In college, the teachers beat us up with Global Warming with no opposing view. One thing that I pointed out was the cyclical orbit of the earth that we talked about in elementary school. Another was the actual data the teachers had, very statistically insignificant. 0.6 C +/-2, over the last 30 years does not seem like warming or even a trend. I was a Biochem major and looking at the data they used was a joke. If I did a study and came up with a huge correlation of variance in respects to a miniscual number (o.6 degree C) over any timeframe the academic world would laugh me out of research/development. The would consider this academic fraud.

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6 years 26 weeks ago, 7:43 PM

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Besides what happened

to your 3 line rule? How soon we forget.

6 years 26 weeks ago, 6:27 PM

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i heard that in 2011 an astoriod will pass the earth and slingshot around the sun and hit the earth in 2015 any body else heard any thing about this . i guess they said its suppose to be 6 miles wide.

END IT QUICK AND HARD
6 years 26 weeks ago, 8:30 PM

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