ARES FMG

The ARES FMG is a folding submachine gun designed by Eugene Stoner while he was an owner of ARES Incorporated. Stoner designed the gun for concealment and covert use, describing it as a “businessman’s personal defense weapon”. Allegedly, Stoner had the idea of a defense weapon for VIPs and CEOs following the numbers of kidnaps of many of such persons in South America during the early 1980s.
Date of Design (year): 
1986
Length (mm): 
503
Length Closed (mm): 
262
Barrel Length (mm): 
220
Weight Loaded (kg): 
2.38
Weight Empty (kg): 
2.09
Effective Range (meters): 
75
Rate of Fire (round/min): 
650
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The ARES FMG is a folding submachine gun designed by Eugene Stoner while he was an owner of ARES Incorporated. Stoner designed the gun for concealment and covert use, describing it as a “businessman’s personal defense weapon”. Allegedly, Stoner had the idea of a defense weapon for VIPs and CEOs following the numbers of kidnaps of many of such persons in South America during the early 1980s.

The Ares folding submachine gun was attempt by a gun manufacturer to create a completely compact submachine gun weapon system. Eugene Stoner, the developer of the M16 rifle and M63 Stoner light machine gun (a Vietnam-era light machine gun alternative to the M60 GPMG) ran the project through his Ares, Incorporated gun firm.

The basic concept revolved around the idea of arming civilians, in particular businessmen whom were sometimes the targets of kidnappers, with a concealable submachine gun-type weapon system.

The basic blowback firing action is said to be acceptable for a system this size and the weapon was chambered for a variety of 9mm rounds. A rate of 650 rounds per minute is reported, with an effective range between 250 and 400 feet. A 20 or 32-round cartridge system could be fed into the weapon. The pistol grip is hollow and is where the box magazine is fed through.

The Ares folding submachine gun is folded by pushing a lock button and bringing the rear part of the gun system forward and down over the pistol grip, then folding both parts in under the barrel section. To unfold the system, the user pushes two unlocking buttons on the front part of the weapon (making up the barrel) and pull the weapon casing backwards then up. No fixed sights are afforded the shooter. The system folds down to 10.3 inches in length (262mm). The system can be made ready to fire in 3-5 seconds.

Though never put into production, at least five working versions were produced and tested. No variants are known is exist beyond these and none have ever been reported to be used in actual conflict. Though the concept might be sound, it obviously did not generate enough interest in the gun market to be designed further.

The Dave Boatman-produced M-21 folding submachine gun and the Russian PP-90 all follow the same type of design philosophy though the Stoner-designed FMG is the most recognizable of the three.

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6 years 30 weeks ago, 2:35 PM

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IT jams quite a bit,other than that its good fits in a suit case too,youll be getting massive order from the secret organization that i belong to.

6 years 17 weeks ago, 11:22 AM

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ARES FMG 9mm

I am not sure, but I don't think this weapon would be available to the general public................. Would it??? I base my opinion on the fact that it was made after 1968......No new full auto weapons for the general public.
If I am wrong, someone please let me know.

Thanx

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6 years 16 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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actually as long as it was made before 1986 it is available to the public, no full auto weapons after that year are available.

4 years 13 weeks ago, 12:54 PM

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FMG

well it is built around a Glock 18 which a civi shouldnt have so its most likely braking the law

6 years 17 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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Has anyone located one of these? Is there one for sale out there? It was never a popular gun, I guess that is why they went out of business, but I have always wanted one (for the past 30 years), and I am trying to locate one now.
Help would be appreciated!!!!!!!

Sincerely
Supe :-)

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 11:43 AM

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A large book publishing company refused to publish a book called "The Jewel of Medina", because it dealt with Mohamed, and his (CHILD BRIDE), and out of fear of retaliation, from the Moslem community) for speaking the truth about their great profit Mohamed.
Remember......as long as you are willing to give up YOUR rights, YOUR beliefs, YOUR principals, Freedom of Speech, and when you are willing to admit that YOU are Wrong, even when YOU know your Right, and let everyone walk all over, (including those that don't even belong in this Country).........THEN, you are being Politically Correct

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 11:58 AM

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Does MAJORITY Rule???

Why is it that when 86% or the United States Citizens (AMERICANS), want something, and 14% of the others (some citizens/some not)do not, WHY do we bend for the minority? Why do they allow these small groups plan and decide what is best for the people of the United States, especially when the Majority disagrees!

Check this out! Nancy Peolosi, wants to tax OUR RETIREMENT, so the illegal aliens can have a better life style.....Well how considerate! The Wench wants to take my money that I worked for for 30 years, and give it to somebody (illegal aliens) that have not contributed anything, and are not supposed to be here in the first place!
If she wants to be so kind and helpful, perhaps she should start by taking 30% in taxes from everyone that makes over a hundred thousand dollars a year,......... I be the problem would be resolved!

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 6:35 PM

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I agree with you 100% I feel that if the lawmakers want to support these illegals then they should. Not you or me but them. You see a trend with the elite. They seem to want to do good but only when the expense's are covered by someone else. I dont feel like its my duty nor obligation to pay 1 cent to help cover the benefits, expenses, health care, or anything else for an illegal alien. That's why they dont want to become citezens in the first place then they would have to pay taxes like the rest of us and have them go to other illegals, and deadbeats to lazy to work

6 years 17 weeks ago, 2:32 PM

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Super,

Obama is proposing a 28% tax on the profits from the resale of your home. He will also bring back the inheritance tax. This is more of his liberal plan of re-distrubution of our wealth.

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6 years 16 weeks ago, 1:09 PM

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If he wins will "Hail to the Chief" be replaced by the "Internationale"
for inauguration?......And perhaps the White and Blue could be removed from the Flag, leaving.... Red........

6 years 16 weeks ago, 5:14 PM

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what do some of these

what do some of these comments have to do with this gun?

6 years 16 weeks ago, 5:50 PM

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some of these people are very politically pumped right now.

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6 years 16 weeks ago, 5:52 PM

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You got that right

You got that right I want to Bloggggggggg!

6 years 15 weeks ago, 5:33 AM

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how can i buy this gun

how can i buy this gun

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 6:38 PM

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thankfully

thankfully you can't you would probably shoot yourself anyway so it's for the best.

6 years 15 weeks ago, 6:45 AM

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Though never put into production, at least five working versions were produced and tested. No variants are known is exist beyond these and none have ever been reported to be used in actual conflict

I think...and I might be stupid but that means you can't buy it if it was never put into production

5 years 24 weeks ago, 5:28 PM

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I want one

This would be fun to play with.I know some one has one based on that design
I think its some sort of Glock modified.

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:10 PM

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As you can see by his comment above.. and i couple of things here.. One notice the first comment from the joker 2 years ago.. "my secret organization" .. This is exactly what we were talking about a bit ago in why our little group works.. "my secret organization".. sheesh

I don't believe a comment like that would be tolerated today... and of course on a site like ours that by nature is going to draw the "had one to many Testosterone's for lunch" crowd its great that we all our united on this issue.... Honesty = Credibility.. When i hear TX lucky talk about an LE issue i know he's stating a fact (post some pics of TBH ya lop)..

Also if you guys have a new SGN you will find this piece advertised (my Sept 13 is page 80).. Least it sure looks like it in the suitcase configuration..i have not been to thier site FullAutoClassics.com.. but there it is if you guys would care to check... I'm lazy, and time for Beck, and Beer..

Forgot, and irrelevant, but if you read the comments above you will see mention of a "cop" and thats a great trivia issue.. i haven't seen or heard of one forever.. If i remember they were sorta a double derringer thing.. four independent bbls in a square configuration.. Ecaman might remember, or some of you other geezers..

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:25 PM

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There's a picture of one posted on the site somewhere. It was a 4 barrel derringer in .357 magnum, built from stainless steel. Short, and somewhat compact, but HEAVY. If you slipped one in your pocket your pants would fall off!
When they first came out I thought they were a good idea. Then I picked one up, and decided that a .357 revolver was a lot better idea.

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:40 PM

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When i first got my little freedom arms (i need to change ammo, thanks pard) i also got a Velcro ankle holster for it.. So one time im at the job i had before i went to work for the state. (appliance warehouse mgr) and im sitting with some customers who had a complaint, and i thought if we all sat down together we could work it out.. so all of a sudden....CLUNK

shit ... You could have heard a pin drop... seriously what do you say... i apologized, said it was in case of theft (yeah right, just piss off a BG) anyway.. thier whole attitude changed, and it was like were ok with the problem.. Of course i was scared they would complain that i was trying to intimidate them so i actually gave them a new refrigerator, as opposed to doing the service call i should have

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:46 PM

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Greg

You gave them a new refrigerator? Damn, I wish I could find somebody like you at the Customer Service desk all the time.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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Actually it was a bit of a toss up.. you always err (Schuyler) on the side of the customer, but they had had it for long enough that while still under warranty we would have had to eat it, and a service call would have been correct.. My job was to do that with out losing a customer, so no big deal in the long run.. I will say they were very polite after that tho..

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:55 PM

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Greg I had a new

bullet bandoleer for my boots one time too and had stuffed 223's in it,,, found out walking around the grocery that they work loose(spread the leather ....scattered them all over the store before I noticed) and all started flicking out as I walked .....wooops. Paid for my things quick and got out of there. It was Florida aye. so I up-ed it to my 44 mags. No problem now.

People sometimes ask me about the missing one ......I tell them "well .....I needed that one"

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3 years 43 weeks ago, 6:35 PM

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ARES FMG Info

Category:
Machine Guns
Action:
Blowback
Type:
Automatic
Caliber:
9 mm Parabellum
Barrel Length:
220 mm
Frame/Material:
Stamped Metal
Finish/Color:
Black
Capacity:
20, 32 round magazine
Sights:
None

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