PPSh-41

The PPSh-41(Pistolet-Pulemyot Shpagina)nicknamed "Pah-Pah-sha, Shpagin and Burp Gun" submachine gun was one of the most mass produced weapons of its type of World War II. It was designed by Georgi Shpagin, as an inexpensive alternative to the PPD-40, which was expensive and time consuming to build. The PPSh had a simple blow-back action, a box or drum magazine, and used the 7.62x25mm pistol round. It was made with metal stampings to ease production, and its chrome-lined chamber and bore helped to make the gun very low-maintenance in combat settings.
Date of Design (year): 
1941
Length (mm): 
828
Barrel Length (mm): 
269
Weight Loaded (kg): 
1.84
Weight Empty (kg): 
0.68
Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 
488
Effective Range (meters): 
200
Rate of Fire (round/min): 
900
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The PPSh-41(Pistolet-Pulemyot Shpagina)nicknamed "Pah-Pah-sha, Shpagin and Burp Gun" submachine gun was one of the most mass produced weapons of its type of World War II. It was designed by Georgi Shpagin, as an inexpensive alternative to the PPD-40, which was expensive and time consuming to build. The PPSh had a simple blow-back action, a box or drum magazine, and used the 7.62x25mm pistol round. It was made with metal stampings to ease production, and its chrome-lined chamber and bore helped to make the gun very low-maintenance in combat settings.

The PPSh-41 (Pistolet-Pulemyot Shpagina) Shpagin Machine Pistol; nicknamed "Pah-Pah-sha, Shpagin and Burp Gun" submachine gun was one of the most mass produced weapons of its type of World War II. It was designed by Georgi Shpagin.
A few hundred weapons were produced in November 1941 and another 155,000 were produced over the next five months. By spring 1942, the PPSh factories were producing roughly 3,000 units a day.[1] The PPSh-41 was classic example of a design adapted for mass production
Retired from Soviet Army service soon after the WW2, the PPSH was widely exported to some pro-Soviet countries around the world, including Vietnam and many African countries.
The main advantage of the PPSch-41 was bigger effective range (when compared to both Allies and Axis submachine guns of that era). It also was accurate enough and reliable.
Some of the PPSh's drawbacks included the difficulty of reloading, the tendency of the drums to jam (solved by the box magazines) and the high risk of accidental discharge when dropped - the last being a fault common to all open bolt submachine gun designs.
Now if your looking to own one of these rare peices of Solviet history, good luck finding one to buy. whole weapons are hard to comeby. You would be better off find parts and making and putting it together yourself.

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6 years 7 weeks ago, 8:13 AM

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any body know how much a ppsh-41 is worth

5 years 38 weeks ago, 3:02 AM

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ppsh41 Value

If it was registered back before 86 and is in good shape and has all matching Numbers its probably worth up to $26,000. If it wasnt registered before 86 than it cant be registered and its worth a $250,000 fine and 10 years imprisonment. Dont tell anyone you have it.

5 years 38 weeks ago, 3:24 AM

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It seams strange

It is getting a bit strange that we are getting so many questions on here about full-auto guns. We are law abiding people here on guns lot so if you want to try to buy or sell full auto go some where else, and if your somebody trying to trick someone into buying or giving you information SCREW OFF ASSHOLE.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 5:06 PM

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whoa there bud...

hillbilly77 wrote:
It is getting a bit strange that we are getting so many questions on here about full-auto guns. We are law abiding people here on guns lot so if you want to try to buy or sell full auto go some where else, and if your somebody trying to trick someone into buying or giving you information SCREW OFF ASSHOLE.

your language is offensive. FYI

if I was going to own a PPSH-41
I would MOST DEFINITELY want it to be a fully auto.

IMO, the coolest thing about the PPSH-41 is that the rate of fire for this guy is RIDICULOUS.

that and its just an all around sweet looking gun.

@the guy who posted the fine for owning an unregistered ppsh and the price for a legal one, thanks for ruining my hopes and dreams lol.

3 years 46 weeks ago, 1:40 PM

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Judging by your obviously limited ability to communicate with more proficiency than an 8 year old, you probably are completely oblivious to a few fun facts, so I'm going to let you in on a few things that are pretty common knowledge. Now before I start, you will probably want a dictionary handy as I'm sure you're not used to any word containing much more than one or two syllables.
First of all, by definition, ignorance and stupidity are two very different things, but you seem to have a natural ability to combine them so well that to the untrained reader it would appear that they go hand in hand.
Second, we go to legalities. You still have that dictionary, right? Good. Being as this IS a forum about guns and gun ownership, questions about automatic weapons will come up here and there. AND, its not automatically illegal to own one. That's right! So before you start going off on somebody for asking a simple question about a gun-that CAN be permitted in several states-, and using A hole this, and S off that, you might want to have your facts in order.

3 years 46 weeks ago, 3:04 PM

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Chainsaw

That's a year old thread. Why would you even respond?
FYI, Hillbilly is right.

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3 years 46 weeks ago, 3:08 PM

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Hey Vaq

I guess someone just looking to argue? What's happening in West Texas? It's cold and wet here close to Houston, out in the woods.

3 years 46 weeks ago, 3:15 PM

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Shug

I only wish I was in West TX.
I'm working on a project in SE OK right now. Its actually not bad. Maybe 50 with sun. Beats the last 2 weeks. TBH said it was cold and damp back home this morning.

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3 years 46 weeks ago, 3:23 PM

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SE OK

Vaquero the sun is out now but wind was blowing and cold this am. Hope you get off that project and back home soon. I supply material to general contractors so know something about what you are dealing with. Be safe.

5 years 38 weeks ago, 3:38 AM

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full auto guns

those of you who ask should kick rocks!GUNSLOT is a site dedicated to law abiding AMERICANS who firmly believe in our second amendment right!if you want info on illegal activity,this is NOT the site for you!FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!we are a bunch of americans who favor our second amendment rights and will not throw them out the door for some dipshit that thinks he/she is above the law!

5 years 36 weeks ago, 4:59 PM

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retards the ppsh was also produced in semi auto for all you law abiding fanatics if someone is asking a question dont be a jackass,give what info you know or dont respond at all!look it up SKL-41 it is a version of the ppsh and i do believe he just asked how much is one worth not who has one and can i buy it. besides you can usually buy ppsh's at your local gun show if you have them

5 years 36 weeks ago, 5:03 PM

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Your first ever post on this site and you're already lecturing people on how to behave. You don't know what's gone down here in the past. How about dropping the superiority act and trying to learn something about this site and the people here before showing off your intelligence.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 1:38 PM

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Wow, tough crowd. Actually I recently received my C&R FFL which would allow me to purchase a PPSH-41 in full auto in my state, so long as it isn't a modern remake of any kind. As in, it would have to be an original. I really would like to know some venues who sell these. I'm enthralled with old Russian and German weaponry. I already have an arsenal of U.S. weaponry and just want to expand my horizons. Any leads would be great!
I already have some but like I said...I would like to have a nice sized list of possible places to buy from. Thanks in advance!

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:25 PM

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In my state

The following persons may own or posess a machine gun or machine gun conversion kit or trigger activating device increasing the rate of fire to that of a machine gun;
Persons possessing machine guns or short-barreled shotguns which,although designed as weapons,have been determined by the superintendent of criminal apprehension or his delegate by reason of the date of manufacture,value,design,or other characteristics to be primarily collectors items,relics,museum pieces,or objects of curiosity,ornaments or keepsakes,,and are not likely to be used as weapons.

There are quite a few weapons collectors that can get fully automatic weapons here and you can interput the above to cover firing them as well,which i have.

Seems to me he asked a legitimate question so FUCK OFF

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:39 PM

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jus askin

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:46 PM

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Ivantank,Minnesota

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:36 PM

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most states

allow class 3's

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:43 PM

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Yes,but i have my state gun laws here at my desk so that's right out of the book.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 3:00 PM

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i am reading your gun laws as well, cause i was always under the impression that full-auto and the ability the switch a gun to full-auto was illegal everywhere...

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 3:05 PM

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Jaccuzi Nuts

many states allow you to own select fire weapons (full auto). You just need a class 3 license/stamp.

here is a link that shows what certain states allow...

http://www.scottsdalegunclub.com/faq/classiiistateslist.php

(MG- Machine Guns, Silencers, SBR- Short barrel rifles, SBS- short barrel shotguns, AOW- any other weapon, DD- destructive devices)

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 3:12 PM

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sweet.think..lol

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:56 PM

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Frankel the Fucko!

5 years 25 weeks ago, 5:48 PM

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I live in Wisconsin. As soon as the people here become smart enough to vote out Douchebag Doyle then we might get conceal carry.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 5:53 PM

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i had some great times in that town..i used to haul boats from cruisers in oconto...and the women where nuts..

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3 years 49 weeks ago, 6:18 PM

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..Ive seen one at a gun show, but it was framed and all broken, with a plaque that claimed to have it run over my a tank. It still looked awsome. I originally came to love it on a XBOX 360 game called "Call of Duty: Worls at WAR" which I became very proficient with in online against others...they hated me, because of this beautiful weapon.

3 years 46 weeks ago, 1:53 PM

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mechanical perfection

I too would love to own one. Admittedly though, I'm a newb here too. From what I understand about weaponry, both Russian and German craftmanship have always been neck and neck when it comes to firearms, and both of them have typically been the best that there is.

3 years 13 weeks ago, 12:10 AM

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I just picked up one of these bad boys at the NRA auction for a little over $700. It is a semi automatic version, so probably not all original and no where worth the stated $26,000, but wicked non the less. I see myself owning a piece of Russian history and well worth the price. Does anybody know where I can buy drums are cartridges?

2 years 29 weeks ago, 9:43 PM

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I was just wondering about legally owning a PPSH 41, (select-fire, of course). An "original" PPSH 41 would undoubtedly meet the "pre-May 1986" standard but, would this PPSH 41 have to have been "registered" before May 1986 to be legal to own? I have often wondered about this and any input would be greatly appreciated.

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