Amazing Police Bullet Proves Self-Defense

Amazing Police Bullet Proves Self-Defense

Amazing shot cited as self-defense
Police bullet lodged in gunman's weapon

April 27, 2006

A highly improbable shot left an officer's bullet in the cylinder of a gunman's revolver, and police say it's a pretty clear sign that the officers who shot the man faced a deadly threat.

"Physically, it is impossible to conclude anything other than the fact the suspect was pointing directly at the officers," Deputy Chief Clark Kimerer said Wednesday, adding, "I've not seen anything quite like that in my 24 years."

This photo, provided by the Seattle Police Department, shows the damaged cartridge in the cylinder of the gunman's revolver.
Wednesday, the King County Medical Examiner's Office had yet to release the identity of the gunman and were still trying to notify his next of kin. Kimerer said the man turned 18 about a month ago.

The shooting was the latest in what has been a very bloody month for Seattle. Since March 25, there have been 10 gun-related deaths and at least 10 people injured.

Seven people died March 25 in the city's second-largest mass slaying. Two people were wounded.

On April 15, three men were injured at a nightclub shooting. The next evening, one man was wounded in a shooting in the Central District. On Saturday, one man died and two men were wounded in a shooting in Pioneer Square.

On Sunday, a man was shot and wounded as he slept in a Lake City home. Also Sunday, a North Seattle man shot and killed himself after shooting at passing cars, his neighbors' home and arriving police officers. One officer was wounded by bullet fragments.

In the Tuesday shooting, police again found themselves facing a life and death situation.

The shooting happened just after 8:15 p.m. near the corner of Broadway East and East John Street on Capitol Hill.

At a news conference at police headquarters Wednesday, Kimerer said investigators learned that the gunman had had an argument with a female friend shortly before the shooting.

Afterward, Kimerer said, the young man walked down Broadway and got into a fight with another man. At some point, a gun he was carrying fell to the ground.

Kimerer said the gunman simply reholstered the weapon behind his back.

A merchant called 911, as did others.

Two East Precinct patrol officers arrived in less than two minutes, he said.

The two officers approached the young man near a bus stop. Though the man was suspected of being armed, the officers did not see a weapon, so at first they planned to restrain him.

When the man turned to face them, the officers ordered him to get on the ground and show his hands.

The warning, Kimerer said, was heard by several witnesses.

Instead of complying, "the suspect reached behind his back with both hands," he said.

Out came a revolver, police officers said.

The officers ordered the man to drop the gun. Instead, police said, he squared up against them. "The officers returned fire in response to that deadly threat," Kimerer said.

Both officers, armed with Glock .40 caliber semi-automatic handguns, fired. One fired four shots; the second, three shots.

One of those bullets ended up in the gunman's gun -- jammed into the cylinder of his revolver. The department released photos Wednesday showing the cracked brass of a bullet shoved out of the rear of one chamber.

Fire medics arrived but were unable to revive the man.

Investigators have learned from at least one witness that the man had said earlier in the evening that he would draw his weapon if confronted by police. Police had said earlier that he was recently released from a substance abuse treatment center, but Wednesday Kimerer said he could not confirm that.

Seattle police officers are dealing more and more with people experiencing mental health crises. Partly in response to this, all officers now routinely attend an eight-hour seminar on crisis intervention.

Statistics the department maintains on incidents of Taser use bear out that patrol officers are seeing many cases of subjects with some type of impairment. In its most recent report, in January, the department noted that of the 800-plus incidents of Taser use in 2001, 72 percent of the subjects encountered were impaired by alcohol of drugs or were mentally ill.

Both officers involved in Tuesday's shooting have been placed on administrative leave.

Kimerer praised the officers for their courage in taking on an armed man, and for their tactical skill in preventing any other injuries. He also said officers were grateful for the amount of help provided by people at the scene.

Detectives will continue to investigate the background of the young man, but determining a motive may prove difficult. "We may never know exactly what happened," Kimerer said.

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 3:42 PM

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All my life that area has been the sorta buk'nstock wearing yuppie HQ of the north west.. Now it seems like one incident after another.. The recent video of the young girl who was mugged and kicked while uniform (non cops) subway guards stood and watched is just another in what is now a long list of issues.

I don't want to sound like Glen Beck, but its looking more and more "dim" out there..

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 3:43 PM

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fantastic.

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 3:54 PM

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old official police or officers target thats been modified with first generation bowmar's.. Sad it wound up in this guys hands.. Guessing it was stolen, as i doubt he was smart enough to know what it was..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
7 years 18 weeks ago, 4:57 PM

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Seattle has had a huge surge of Californians in recent years.This includes every walk of life from the anti-gun yuppies to the border jumping illegals. Our state is going to helll in a hand basket and all they can do is make more stupid laws. I live in eastern Washington which is very conservative and we get all their laws crammed down our throats. I wish we could split the state in two and become seperate states all together. All our tax dollars go to building new highways and new projects on the west side of the state.Heck us eatserners refer to that side as Washingfornia.

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 5:10 PM

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he runs the main garage in our area, and they were going to move to WA last year, but on thier last trip (they already own the land) they have changed thier mind due to exactly what your saying.. he said they actually feel out of place there now.. They bought the property some time ago (yep western) and he was just telling me the other day how much its changed in the past seven years since they started going there..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
7 years 18 weeks ago, 6:04 PM

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since the very early days. One President referred to the 47 states and the Soviet of Washington. As far as laws it's middle of the road--better than Illinois and New York, but worse than Arizona and Texas. It's a 'shall issue' state, for example, for CCW.

If you stay away from the I-5 corridor it's not all that bad and you meet up with people like Greasypaws. Living in Seattle itself is the pits. There's a California style firearms law in the legislature now, but I get the feeling it isn't going anywhere. If I had to choose a state to live in I'd choose Arizona or Texas, but Washington is not bad enough to make me move out.

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

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has some decent gun laws

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