A Bro-in-Law sent this pic but didn't tell what it is ????

A Bro-in-Law sent this pic but didn't tell what it is ????

I thought 7.62X39 but dunno, can't find it on the net, yet

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 3:42 PM

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a handfull

be my guess

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 1:04 AM

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Take a look at the protrusion off the front of the trigger guard, guessing thats an extractor for the empty case.. the bbl pivots around the obvious point forward and above the trigger.. you can guess at the case length, and it looks like it would handle a long case..

Second look.. maybe that protrusion case extractor of mine comes out then it would be any caliber.. makes since, i can't imagine firing a 7.62 X39 in any pistol much less a small thing like this.

What ever it's neat.

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 3:48 PM

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I will watch you shoot it Greg.

2 years 9 weeks ago, 1:04 PM

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Does look like

7.62X39. Ouch!

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 4:17 PM

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found it!

My google foo is strong!

Silenced pistol SMEs "Thunderstorm"
Pistol SMEs "Storm" (Special Compact Pistol "Storm") is designed to equip the army reconnaissance - sabotage groups and spets.podrazdeleny. Developed in the early '70s, in the Podolsk CRI Tochmash, production has been established at the Tula Arms Plant. Soviet Army SMEs "Thunderstorm" is from 1972.
Gun not automatic, double-barreled. Two vertically oriented shaft pushed forward by charge - up (like a hunting rifle), with pin - extractor, located between the trunks, hinges on the frame of the gun and pushes the sleeve out of the barrel, catching them by the chimes. For quick reloading cartridge SP-3 together with two special steel clip. For firing a gun SMEs "Thunderstorm" special ammunition used SR-3, weighing 15 grams. and a length of 52 mm. Noiseless and smokeless shots in these cartridges is achieved by cut-off propellant gas in the pocket after a shot special piston.
Caliber: 7.62x38 SP-3. Weight unloaded: 530 g Length: 115 mm. Barrel length: 66 mm. Capacity: 2 rounds in separate trunks. Muzzle velocity of 200 m / sec. Sighting range of 25 meters. Effective range of 15 meters

here's the link http://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/topic295959.html

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 4:45 PM

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http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/rus/msp-silent-e.html

I like that. Silly Russians. "What cartridge should we use for our new pistol? The venerable and much produced 7.62X39?" "What!? Are you crazy? That would have too much recoil! We are going to create a new 7.62X38mm cartridge."

lol j/k I know this was a special purpose ammo designed for silence:

http://world.guns.ru/ammunition/russian-special-cartridges-e.html

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 8:53 PM

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Personally, I'd prefer the WW2 .45 stamped sheetmetal Liberator but on the other hand, don't knock it 'till you've fired it and had recoil drive your elbow into your shoulder socket :<)))
That was an exageration guys LOL
Thanks again.

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 10:40 PM

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I saw a website where some Company is making the 45 Liberater again.I might have to break out my google foo again.

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 1:34 AM

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The new Liberator.

or liberater for you spell correct guys.. Daisy and i are Navy trained.. we spent time learning how to throw bowlens on a bite, and double half hitches and such.. no time for that spelling stuff..

anyway yep saw the same article.. neat thing is you can shoot it more than the 20 or so times that was max for the original due to a spot weld issue.. new one is of course machined..

good question here.. i was reading the new SGN...(navy did teach reading) and they make an issue about stamped being "better" than machined.. this blew me away, as i always heard machined was better.. issue of course was around the AK's.. and that stamped is just as strong..lighter.. runs cooler.. cheaper.. all that and no benny's for the machined out side of the "thats how we always did it" stuff.. Not sure i buy into this, but maybe something to it..

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2 years 9 weeks ago, 6:19 AM

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read about it here

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/rus/msp-silent-e.html

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