Yea, I know, this program got put on the back burner to replace the M9, still cool to see what was in the running though.
I am wondering what did not make the list looks like most other than hi-point
Uglymech, I really don't know what made the short list and didn't, but according to the website I got this off of, these are the companies that submitted guns to be in the running for the replacement.
that is pretty intersting I guess when the time comes it will all come down to the all mighty dollar
yep uglymech, it will probably go to the lowest bidder. Crazy world huh.
I would like to see a program in the military allowing its personel to use what is issued or supply their own.
I wish I would of had that option
stoled all his weapons.....from the Gringos Pendejos!!!!!ayyyyyiiiiyyyyyiiiiigh
But what happened when Blackjack Pershing came after him? LOL
Why fix what aint broke.....Either go back to a 1911 or do not change anything
This time go S&W or Ruger. Buying foreign firearms is just BS with all due respect to my M9
S&W was purchased by a British company several years ago if i remember right.
smith and wesson
It will have a manual safety on it. For whatever reason.
regardless of country of manufacturer. National pride should come second to quality.
you would think they would go with the 40 or the 45.
Raffy, it's because of NATO. NATO uses 9mm so the US felt they needed to buddy up to them and conform to the standard. Yea, I agree, they should have kept the .45. From what I heard when they were thinking about replacing the Beretta, they were leaning towards the .45 again. However, that program to replace the Beretta got shelved. So, who knows what will happen.
The top dog in the running will be the low bidder. That is too bad. It should be the company with the best ballistics test results, best reliability and easiest to maintain.
The reason they stay with 9mm, is that there are more 9mm rounds in the world than any other. It was agreed upon that all involved with the UN would use 9mm ammo. If a soldier is in the field and is out of ammo, he can pick it up off of any dead soldier, ammo dump, or stash.
Always at the top!
Cool Breeze is right on Sig Sauer is the best
Those would be my choices. Accuracy & total reliability.
I agree ecman. When the do start looking at a replacment for the M9 again, my guess, and this is just a guess, is that it will probably be the HK or the FN. FN because they already have large contracts with them and the new FN 45 has everything the gov wants, or wanted last time around: .45, ambidextrous manual saftey and ambidextrous slide take down and the hk has the same attributes, except I don't think the slide take down can be ambidestrous. The sig still doesn't have the manual saftey I dont think, which may cause a problem witht he gov. They like that thing for some reason. And I think HK just opened up a plant on US soil, which is also a requirement.
would be for para ordanace
Snake, para is a good choice. HOwever I think the military was looking more for something that could be carried hammer down too. I know HK's can be shot single or double, I think the new FN can be too, but not sure.
Good point. FN? Are you refering to the FN-57?
SNake, no, I'm referring to the FNP-45. It was in the Feb 2008 Guns & Ammo. I held one once at a gun show. It's very big and chunky. In my opinion, a little chunkier than a Glock 21.
post a pic of this FNP-45 please. And some inf to.
When you have a new army pistol?
The Army already issues the Sig 9mm; M11. It's issued to some CID/SA, intel and a couple other specialty units.
The military doesn't always go with the cheapest anymore, of course here in the last two years they may have to.
The M9 is a good pistol, the ball 9mm is not. 9mm JHP is a good round but we can't use HPs under the Hague Convention. They did have a problem with the mags a few years ago but it was the finish was too rough on the inside to allow the follower to function properly.
Another common problem is Soldiers take the grips off, lose the spacer and reassemble it and tighten the screw down. When this happens the screw goes too far in and won't allow the mag to come out.