The American, 1891 & muff shotgun 410
I like the .410 Muff gun the most. Are these original 1891's? or are they replica's of the Model 1891? Please share the info my friend.
Real deal, bud, trying to get some more pictures to clint to show some friends for possible sale. They have a cool history thouh, through way back in my family and a sister of grandfather I was named after. She decided to come to Florida, at young age and met an decesdent of Apache indian that was a decendant of the last walk of a lot of tribes to florida. His father was given some scrub, marshes swamp land and then to him and married her and so on. Most Indians here abouts are Seminoles with the Gambling and all. But I guess they were the last of their kind, and she was frowned upon for marrying him. It turned out to be Brooksville,& Isd & a few others know where it is at. But at 90 something she gave me those guns and a wild Boar head from there with huge tusks. First time I met her & gave me the Guns because I was named after her brother, my grandfather. I gave the Boars head to the city of brooksvilles fire department/ museum to be, and of course the city figured out away to get the land back, even though it was like an island in the everglades. But I am glad I met her, and she heard once from her brother ( my granpop) that I was his favorite and bore his name. But Life goes on, and Brooksville gets nothing else from me and the people they treated like animals all their life. John
If I had the cash I would buy the .410. Just curious and I know your a honest man what price ya askin for the .410?
The 410 Muff I honestly do not know what year it is, It is not marked except for a Number 1- that is it on that gun. The other is a different story, it has month year serial #s etc. I do not know when but what she said, and the small muff is not Damasscuss another words not a blacksmith , so I figured around the 1920 era, they were popular then. and it only has one trigger for both barrells, pull that trigger and both go off. When I do it dry and appraiser did, he felt one side, like I did ,just did not have as much punch to it. His opinon was a spring loose or out of place or needs to be replaced. The big gun, Cannot be fired anymore unless you were to make a 12ga round for it and chance it. I would not, a wallhanger for sure just like it is.. The little one I would take from you 400.00. It appraised for a lot more, but just want something else and some help for some old friends, instead of hanging on wall. A young guy though is who I hope does eventually buy any so they can grow in value and be enjoyed, with a collection, Like Knives. John
I went and checked up on a few job applications I put in. The I talked to managers from the locations and one told me there was several psitions open so I could expect a call any time. If ya still have the .410 when I get a job I will talk to ya.
But like I told ya my friend. If someone fronts you the cash before me then sell it to them. I cant promise anything. I can only try.
By the way you said that the .410 had a "1" on it an no other markings correct? In a way it sounds like my Higgins .410. My higgins says "Sears,Roebuck&Co. J.C.Higgins 101.1" Then the barrel,Stock,and opening of the break action has "A,G" but not sure what it means. My higgins is most likely build around the 30's or 40's not valueble money wise but valueable as it was my very first ever gun.
Sorry I get a bit chatty over antiques lol.
drive by post (kinda), working on my nagant project, nice shotties indeed JC, the 410 reminds me of the predecessor to the Taurus Judge, damn fine snake gun, unless the snake is near my foot, then I would think twice.....lol
Do you know anything about the little one, muff 410, and no markings but "1" I really do not have a clue ?JC
I don't off hand but I would be willing to research it AM, I will let you know what I find out.
Not a problem, I have been looking for a while, but I guess in the wrong places like the song, By the way, that little guy in your Hand is so sharp and with a doll ? It takes a hell of a man and a kind hearted man to hold a precious life like that. My hats off to you SIR. John.
a random hamster pic holding an M-4 (I think) off the internet, no more no less, makes a decent avatar considering my name....lol
Still-- I like very much. John
Why a snake? Why not a lizard?
Nah just jokin with ya,hows it goin in Utah?
No problems here, just waiting, in no hurry and not offended in anyway about anything. But No on the markings, I even asked the second auctioneer/appraiser, and if you take a grip off there is just a number "1" He was taken aback too. there are no other markings at all, worn off, or down, or filed , nothing but a 1, He said he saw it once before at an estate sale, but it had an 6. He had no clue then and none now. The one trigger for both barrells was for the ladies of money in those times and his guess was 20's, becauss of beaver muffs and Buffalo, and just about any other kind of fur, and ladies could hide the gun and be safe and nobody know that they had it? But why then in Brooksville Florida, and poor Indian/white woman frowned upon? The older I get the less I can figure out, and she would not talk and answer any questions. But Brooksville grabbed the old Boarshead and tusks quick. It went over 550lbs she said. Damn? JC
how's it going in Virginia? I will post some pic's of the rifle in a few, I have a PM into GP for some 'smithing' advice, just hang'n out...lol
Goin good. Look int some gainful employment lol. Got applications in at several places just waiting on a call. But did go and check on the jobs today to see if they looked over my application. Just got to wait and see.