Congressional Reform Act of 2010

Congressional Reform Act of 2010

Congressional Reform Act of 2010

1. Term Limits: One Term Maximum.

One Six-year Senate term and One Four Year House term.

Congress should concentrate on acting for the good of the country, not upon getting re-elected. Worthwhile bills not acted upon during a current session will be carried forth and voted on by elected successors.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

2. No Tenure / No Pension:
A congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security: All money in the Congressional retirement fund moves to the Social Security System immediately. Congress participates with the American people and can purchase their own retirement plan just as all Americans..

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

7. All contracts with past and present congressmen are void with the effective date of this reform act.

The American people did not make any contracts with congressmen; congressmen made all contracts with and for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, serve your term, then go home and back to work.

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5 years 13 weeks ago, 3:00 PM

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It would be good, but I believe that it has no possible chance of passage. The people in office won't do this to themselves.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
5 years 13 weeks ago, 4:00 PM

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Put their feet to the fire...

5 years 13 weeks ago, 4:07 PM

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from what ryo understand about the House and the Senate, they can do this themselves without a law. both houses of congress can set rules for themselves however they see fit except that the length of their terms is set by the constitution so to change the house term to 4 sai would require a constitutional amendment. demo, ryo believe that ecaman is correct and that it unlikely the people in power would ever do this to themselves neh.

a friend to you both alway,

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5 years 5 weeks ago, 5:22 PM

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Someone started this reform act as a joke. It shows complete ignorance of how congress works. For just a couple of examples:

Congress already pays social security tax and has since 1984.

Congress has not voted themselves a pay raise since 1988 when the law was changed to tie their pay increases to the CPI. They have voted to block their own automatic pay raise five times since then.

Congress pays for their health insurance just like the rest of us and it is purchased through private insurance companies. Their employer (us) pays a portion, just like all good employers.

Congress pays into a retirement fund just like any American can. The funds are saved in a variety of investment funds, depending on the members choice of risk/gain. When they reach legal retirement age, their fund is used to buy them a life annuity from a private insurance company. That plus their social security benefit is their pension.

Etc, etc, etc.

Don't embarrass yourself by endorsing this.

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5 years 5 weeks ago, 5:37 PM

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Really, Amos?

So you're going to tell me the democrats in congress would have to have the same medical benefits as the average American if Universal Healthcare were passed? And they're still working to pass it? I highly doubt that.

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5 years 5 weeks ago, 5:57 PM

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I take every piece of legislation presented on this and all other sites with a grain of salt (SB 2099, anyone?), and I disagree with one term max, but more control must be levied on these overpaid morons. While there are members who are there to do their duty as they see it, too many have turned into spoiled punks with a sense of entitlement rather than a sense of duty. Sorry, had to edit and add something else. Fuck Ted Kennedy, glad he's dead.

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5 years 5 weeks ago, 6:06 PM

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Amos Moses

Are you the same Amos Moses who lived in the Louisiana bayou? Named after a man of the cloth?

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:25 PM

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Exactly my thoughts when I logged on

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:32 PM

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congress voting themselves a pay raise. They last did it in 1991. Now, unless they statutorially change things, their pay raise percentage cannot excheed that of a GS pay raise percentage. My source is senate.gov. Wow. A source other than wikipedia. That's right, bitches. read it an' weep. What the hell am I talking about? Shiner Bock is good, mmmkay?

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:19 PM

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I'm incorrect, BFD

1988, 1991 big fuckin' difference.... it's around 20 years ago. My point is that the person proposing these reforms doesn't know what they are talking about. I am amazed how many websites I have seen this proposal posted. I have come to believe that someone deliberately made up this nonsense to prove that a lot of people don't understand their own government and you can get them to sign on to anything that shows dissatisfaction with government. In other words, those most angry at their government understand it the least.

As regards health insurance: Congress participates in the same health insurance plan as all federal employees and they pay the same amount for it as all federal employees. It is a damn good plan because they have a huge employee base and can negotiate great coverage with the insurance companies who want their business. I think one of the proposals of the health insurance reform bill was to let people of small groups combine to form large groups and negotiate good insurance like the federal employees. But, hey, I don't give a shit. I've got mine. Fuck everyone who can't afford health insurance. Not my problem. The problem I am discussing is the dumb-ass congressional reform bill.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:34 PM

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Run

That was pretty mean spirited about Uncle Ted...but I must agree with you, he was a piece of shit. But he is a classic example of what goes on as you stay there too long. I am not sure about one term either, but there really is no need for more than two. The President can only have two full terms, so why is it that congress is not limited. Surely, The Founding Fathers didn't want career politicians.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm

Here is what I found and there are many other links to read about congress:

U.S. Congress salaries and benefits have been the source of taxpayer unhappiness and myths over the years. Here are some facts for your consideration.

Rank-and-File Members:
The current salary (2010) for rank-and-file members of the House and Senate is $174,000 per year.

Members are free to turn down pay increase and some choose to do so.

In a complex system of calculations, administered by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, congressional pay rates also affect the salaries for federal judges and other senior government executives.

During the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin considered proposing that elected government officials not be paid for their service. Other Founding Fathers, however, decided otherwise.

From 1789 to 1855, members of Congress received only a per diem (daily payment) of $6.00 while in session, except for a period from December 1815 to March 1817, when they received $1,500 a year. Members began receiving an annual salary in 1855, when they were paid $3,000 per year.

Congress: Leadership Members' Salary (2010)
Leaders of the House and Senate are paid a higher salary than rank-and-file members.

Senate Leadership
Majority Party Leader - $193,400
Minority Party Leader - $193,400

House Leadership
Speaker of the House - $223,500
Majority Leader - $193,400
Minority Leader - $193,400

A cost-of-living-adjustment (COLA) increase takes effect annually unless Congress votes to not accept it.

Benefits Paid to Members of Congress

You may have read that Members of Congress do not pay into Social Security. Well, that's a myth.

Prior to 1984, neither Members of Congress nor any other federal civil service employee paid Social Security taxes. Of course, the were also not eligible to receive Social Security benefits. Members of Congress and other federal employees were instead covered by a separate pension plan called the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). The 1983 amendments to the Social Security Act required federal employees first hired after 1983 to participate in Social Security. These amendments also required all Members of Congress to participate in Social Security as of January 1, 1984, regardless of when they first entered Congress. Because the CSRS was not designed to coordinate with Social Security, Congress directed the development of a new retirement plan for federal workers. The result was the Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986.

Members of Congress receive retirement and health benefits under the same plans available to other federal employees. They become vested after five years of full participation.

Members elected since 1984 are covered by the Federal Employees' Retirement System (FERS). Those elected prior to 1984 were covered by the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS). In 1984 all members were given the option of remaining with CSRS or switching to FERS.

As it is for all other federal employees, congressional retirement is funded through taxes and the participants' contributions. Members of Congress under FERS contribute 1.3 percent of their salary into the FERS retirement plan and pay 6.2 percent of their salary in Social Security taxes.

Members of Congress are not eligible for a pension until they reach the age of 50, but only if they've completed 20 years of service. Members are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach the age of 62. Please also note that Members of Congress have to serve at least 5 years to even receive a pension.

The amount of a congressperson's pension depends on the years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of his or her salary. By law, the starting amount of a Member's retirement annuity may not exceed 80% of his or her final salary.

According to the Congressional Research Service, 413 retired Members of Congress were receiving federal pensions based fully or in part on their congressional service as of Oct. 1, 2006. Of this number, 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average annual pension of $60,972. A total of 123 Members had retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only. Their average annual pension was $35,952 in 2006.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:42 PM

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If the voters of a particular district are too fuckin' lazy to boot a POS rep or senator, then that's up to them. And if the voting majority in a particular district think their congressman is doing a good job, then the law shouldn't force that one out. Unfortunately, there are morons out there who actually like Boxer, Feinstein, Schumer, Reid, Pelosi, and the like. As long as popular voting is the method for electing senators and representatives, then there should be no law requiring term limits.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 10:27 PM

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Term Limits

I agree with you on that. Well put. Most people who want term limits really just want to get rid of other people's senators and representatives, like Boxer, Reid, etc. I hate those two in particular, but I don't get to vote on them.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:46 PM

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I couldn't disagree

more on term limits...I think it's badly needed right now.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:49 PM

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But why?

Do you really want 535 lame ducks? No, as much as I hate it, if there are a shit load of liberal cocksuckers in a district in Cali, then they should be able to choose someone to represent their liberal cocksucking views in DC. I don't like it, because I'm not a liberal cocksucker, but I don't live in that district, either.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:51 PM

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their power in office, influence peddling.
Rep Jefferson would have been in office forever except he got caught with $90,000 in cold cash.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:51 PM

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yeah

cocksuckers!!!!

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

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http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb105-5.html

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 7:39 PM

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will always have another liberal cocksucking representative to vote in...we are talking term limits for individuals, not groups...those liberal cocksuckers roam around in packs!!!

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 7:46 PM

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because the criminals have to establish connections with the rich donors and lobbyists. As things are now they have time to line up the bag men and trade political favors for cash.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 7:50 PM

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Term limits

Also remove gun owners from office.
I want career politicans gone as much as the next guy.
I just wonder if we could implement them in liberal districts ony?

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 7:56 PM

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It would be nice to keep pro gun politicians but they to can turn to shiite.
Just consider my hero Randy Cunningham (R) Calif.

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5 years 4 weeks ago, 7:59 PM

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turn to shiite

or be bought, maybe term limits are a good idea.
I'll be "neutral" for now.

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