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6 years 40 weeks ago, 11:43 AM

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this P 30. You know come to think of it, my younger boy Ryu might like a pistol like this. What do you think? The only thing I don't like about it, is the skinny trigger. I really like those flat plate triggers.

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6 years 40 weeks ago, 12:02 PM

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The trigger pulls

are available from 4.5 lbs. to 8 lbs.DAO,i do like the trigger guard being larger,this type trigger is what i have the most experience with even with the 1911s and Browning HP i have shot or owned.I am a fan of the HK family of weapons and think Ryo would be well equipped with one.BTW hope you are doing well!

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6 years 40 weeks ago, 12:44 PM

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Ironkoji

Let me echo lucky on that one, hope your well, just sent a response to number one son re: how proud you must be of him.. Not an easy job, and you have a couple of great Sons.. Good job brother, and hope your doing well.

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6 years 40 weeks ago, 1:16 PM

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They are quite taken with you. They love to make new friends. Just ask Lucky about that one. They are far from perfect, especially the younger one who is Send it Boi here, that's Ryu. My oldest boy is Ryo, and he's LittleDragon here. Forgive the proud father mode, but yes I'm very proud of both of them. We've almost convinced Ryo he's ready to enter as a novice into one of our club's unofficial tournaments. I'd really like to see how well he might can shoot in competition, but I've been very cautious about pushing him. But now even he thinks it might lots of fun to enter a novice competition, you know just see? He's a very good natured boy. My younger boy can be quite the little hellion when the moods on him. However he's also a champion expert marksman in his age group, although in the last tournament he got beat again by his best friend who is also his shooting partner. And yes, Lucky, I'm way off topic and please forgive me. That's the second time Gary's beaten Ryu in two months. In the more than 200 tournaments they've shot in together over the last five years, including the last two wins where Gary finished first and my boy came in second, Gary's only beaten Ryu a total of 5 times. But twice in the last two months and my son isn't slipping, his best friend is just getting stronger.
Thank you also for asking after my health. It warms the heart of this old man to have found so many wonderful and caring friends here, not only for myself, but also for my boys. Thank you.

Koji
PS By the way, what's your opinion about this P 30? You think a 15 year old just now starting to get good with pistols, who is already a damn good little rifleman, might like a pistol like this? I kind of owe him something since about a month ago I got his older brother a very great new rifle in the Saab/Bofors FFV AK 5B Basic Designated Marksman's rifle. I had to borrow some money from my father to pay for that thing. So anyway this P 30 really interests me and I think my boy might like it too. I'd just like to hear some of you thoughts about this weapon too please.

6 years 40 weeks ago, 1:03 PM

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I was talking about for my younger boy Ryu. Thanks for the info on the trigger. I'm going to show this to Ryu and see what he thinks. We are also fans of H&K weapons and in fact I own several. Thank you for asking after my health. I'm day to day as it goes. I'm feeling a little stronger today after I went out for my walk with my dad. We're both supposed to walk at least a half a mile a day, although recently I haven't been able to go that far, but today dad and I made the whole half mile, so yeah I'm feeling pretty good. Since Vic first talked Ryu into pestering me for those Ruger 22 Chargers, my sons have fallen in love with pistols. I'm and expert marksman with any rifle you put in my hands. I'm a rotten shot with a pistol. I only own one myself. All of my weapons are rifles except for the one pistol and several shotguns. You see I'm left handed, but right eye dominant and so I shoot right handed. When I played baseball I used to hit right handed as well, but of course needed a lefty's gloce because I threw left handed. I have to shoot a pistol left handed and I could hit the ground in three tries with a pistol lol! My sons, thanks to Vic have just really gotten into pistols they each own two now, those really fun Ruger 22 Chargers and they each also got a Bul 5 Ultimate Racer chambered in the 9mm x 23mmSP parabellum ultra magnums, for all the hard work they've both put in on our design team. Ryu has been talking about several pistols he's interested in and I gave in and told him when payday comes on the 25th this month, I'll consider helping him get a new pistol. This P 30 just might really interest him. It's got a certain kind of look to it that I think my younger boy will like. Not sure about Ryo. Is going to put a downpayment on that DPMS Panther Arctic Rifle he wants when he gets paid on the 1st. He's going to have a huge paycheck this time from all the hours he's worked including putting in ten hours on the holiday on Veterans day which he'll get double time for. So I'm going to let him buy the rifle, but instead my younger boy really would like another pistol to add to his littel collection of two. Could you tell me more about this weapon? Do you own one? What are they like to shoot? How heavy etc? And of course what would be a reasonable price to expect to pay? Do you have URL where I could check this weapon out more please?

Koji

6 years 40 weeks ago, 2:40 PM

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Koji, i think the P30 like all H&K's is an excelent piece. I have not fired one, but it has those things that i look for in an auto, and will share them with you. I am a pistol shooter, unlike you I was never as proficiant with a rifle as a pistol. Funny how that works. I was given my first rifle (.22 single shot Stevens) at age 11, and qualified both in Military and Dept of Corrections with rifles. But never reached beyond average in marksmanship, while I always excelled with sidearms. I not only instructed with our D.O.C. but as a supervisor was part of the adhock group involved with Dept. of Az's weapons selection. So in order of precident (this for a realatively new pistol shooter) I would look for 1) the exposed hammer, obvious safty reasons apply. 2) the placement of the magazine realiese, Some mfg's are still using other than the favored Browning location. 3)the slide realiese, again mounted where it can be used by dominent hand for tactical reloads. 4) triger guard, this is the only (major) draw back with 1911's and modern pistols have the grip improved front. 5)ancilary stuff, in this group is sights (today they are all great 30 years ago this post would have had them issue one. Magazine capacity. grip (the HK has an adjustable backstrap as do many today) and if it has a rail for add ons. wight actaully is a self canceling feature, unless its to be used for CCW. in which case i would also look at ergonamics, and basicly what "sticks" when you unholster.. hope this helps

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6 years 40 weeks ago, 2:46 PM

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koji. read second

Just reread, wanted to post before you got off, and laughing about the spelling... this is a lesson best unshared with the boys, i dont want my spelling to be "infectious" .. By the way i responded to someting ryo sent me that i would like him to share with you. Guessing he will proudly share it anyway, but he's humble enough not to. realese is AZ for release.

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6 years 40 weeks ago, 5:58 PM

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This was all very useful information that I needed. My boy is looking over the pistol at the website, that's my younger boy Ryu, and he's really fine with "another" 9mm. he already owns a 9mm and a .22lr pistol, both of which he's very proud of and the size and stats he's found on this weapon show that it will fit his hand just about perfectly. The Bul 5 does look large in his hands, because it is fairly large compared to the size of his hands. He's saying he likes the 15 round mag with one in the pipe that gives him 16 rounds. He has some subjective comments about liking the overall look of the weapon and that the grips look to him like they would fit and feel, just right in his hands. I called the owner of the gun shop where we do most of our business and he order this weapon for us with no problem but for us to come in and see some similar weapons, and for what is being offered, the price is not bad considering accessories etc. I think Lucky may have just found that, "it looks like it could be just the right next pistol for my collection" type of weapon. Many thanks to you both. I know from first hand experience, because I own an H&K rifle, of the very fine quality of materials and workmanship that go into their weapons. So it looks like we might have a winner here. I owe the boy something anyway after spending half a fortune on that blasted Swedish rifle my older boy has wanted since he first learned about the AK 5B. And for the price, if this makes my younger son happy, heck I skate. I flat skate out from under this one.

Don't worry about your spelling. My sons just happen to have a knack for it. You are not going to poison their spelling and grammar, ok. It was however a very kind gesture on your part to even worry a little bit about my boys. Thank you very very much.

Koji

6 years 39 weeks ago, 1:45 PM

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Thanks Lucky

for showing me your Koch..haha

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6 years 39 weeks ago, 10:36 AM

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