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5 years 16 weeks ago, 1:32 AM

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The Russian Dragunov sniper rifle is in 7.62X54 Russian caliber. It's supposed to be Russia's equal to the U.S. Army and Marine Corp. Scout Sniper bolt gun that's built on the Remington model 700 action. The Russian 7.62X54 round is supposed to be better than the American made Springfield 30-06 and .308 Winchester (Nato) caliber rounds. According to the Russian defense and weapons ministry, they state that the 7.62X54 Russian round is superior to the American made Springfield 30-06 and .308 Winchester (Nato) rounds by ballistics and accuracy, as well as range. The Dragunov semi-auto sniper rifle is an accurate rifle from what knowledge I've learned about them. I wouldn't want to be shot at with one. I give the devil his due but, more accurate than the Marine and Army sniper rifles built on the Remington 700 action? Bullshit! I'd like to see this Dragunov sniper rifle go one on one with a Barret .50 BMG caliber sniper rifle at 2000 yards with one pissed off Marine behind the trigger. It can barely compete with the smaller bore .30 caliber Marine and Army sniper rifles so, there's no way it can excel to the ranges of the Barret .50 BMG caliber sniper rifle. All the Russians have in this Dragunov sniper rifle is an AK-47 with some common accuracy work done to it and a couple bells and whistles put on it, and gave it a scary new name. Go back to the ol' drawing board Vladimir and come back when you have something worthy to compete with the U.S. military, the baddest ass snipers in the entire world (and that's a big place).

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 2:24 AM

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even though i side with you on the accuracy argument,the dragunov is not "an AK 47 with common accuracy work and bells and whistles".the gas system is similar but that is it!i am building one right now as a kit and let me tell you these guns are very well machined!the 7.62x54R round is no slouch either with quite similar ballistics to the 30-06 and .303 brit.this round was created during WW1 and they still fire it to this day.this round reloaded with modern reloading equipment,powder and bullets(.311 diameter) groups quite nice thank you!(Mosin Nagant 91/30)just saying dont knock it till you try it.

5 years 16 weeks ago, 2:37 AM

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Dragunov

was not designed to trump the US sniper systems. The Soviet mentality was to build everything in massive numbers. The Soviet rifle squad had a sniper per squad, whereas the US Infantry Battalion during the cold war had 4 sniper teams. That's a sniper team that could be attached to a company. the Soviet sniper was more of a designated marksman, so if you really want a fair comparison, compare the Dragunov to the M21, not the M40, M24, or M107. Before comparing equipment, you should also research the employment. Your comparison was like comparing the Russian BMP-2 APC to the American M1 Abrams MBT.

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 4:05 AM

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Touché greasypaws and runaway gun, points well taken. greasypaws I made my statement based on what information I've read about the Russian Dragunov sniper rifle, and what a good friend that owns one told me in many conversations we had about the one he owns. I have not had one in hand to see personally the quality of the rifle. My friend described the Dragunov rifle as a well made rifle and accurate but said it was built as much for Russian publicity as it was for use. I have shot several Mosin Nagant rifles in 7.62X54R caliber in comparison with a 03 Springfield in 30-06 caliber (all with open iron sights). Either the 03 Springfield rifle was one of the best made or the Mosin Nagant rifles had worn bores because the 03 Springfield held much better groups. I know it's possible that the Mosin Nagant rifles could have seen much more use than the 03 Springfield rifle, which they probably did. The only 30-06 caliber rifles that I've personally shot where the Mosin Nagant was more accurate were some Remington model 742's and a Marlin Bolt action rifle, none of which were owned be me. I wouldn't have a Rem. model 740 or 742 if it was gave to me. They got the nick name Jammomatic for a good reason. As for the Marlin bolt rifle well, I guess you already know they took a dieing leap. I don't take anything away from the Mosin Nagant and 7.62X54R round. They have been and are still a very accurate combination. I just don't feel in my honest opinion that they are superior to the Springfield 30-06 and Winchester .308 calibers (in a quality made rifle) by ballistics or accuracy.

runawaygun, I used the .50 BMG caliber Barret sniper rifle just off the top of my head. I figure if the Russians were going to try to beat something in the U.S. military, they might as well go big against a worthy opponent. Russia and America have always been in a arms competition mind set. One trying to build a bigger better toy than the newest toy that the other side has unveiled. I do agree that my comparison wasn't even close to the comparison of apples and oranges. It's late and I'm tired and thought I was just talking to my self really when I posted (I'm not nuts though, when I start answering my self is when I need the Thorazine shot in the ass with some Prozac suppositories). Just reach out and smack me in the head and tell me to go to bed. :) My tiring weakness is showing my ignorance.

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5 years 13 weeks ago, 9:40 PM

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Yeah...

...but it looks so KOOL!

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