do you really think systasyn deleting stuff is the only thing that makes you a raving lunatic?
clintbo
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
(Calvin & Hobbes)
Reaper, Are there actually any bullet tips that are teflon coated, because the last one I knew about that was accused of that was black talons, and according to what I've read, they never were. They were just lubalox and the media jumped on "teflon" to make it look worse.
Cabela's has them. They are about $1000. A waste of $$ if you ask me. Its like a rifle bullet. That's for long range shots. A pistol is only effective at closer range. At close range a good size pistol would have more stopping power. If you are a good distance away then use your rifle.
1. Possessing a teflon-coated bullet is not a felony, nor is possessing ammunition loaded with Teflon-coated bullets. Teflon does not contribute to a bullet's capability to defeat any barrier or armor. The original KTW armor piercing bullets had variations that were coated with Teflon. (Try the ATFE website for a detailed breakdown of federal laws on the manufacture, sale, distribution and importation of AP ammo (not possession). Certain states have an AP law, but many (including the TX statute) are vague and rarely if ever prosecuted.)
2. Black Talons were not coated with Teflon (a Dupont proprietary product). They were coated with Lubalox, a Winchester product, that basically assists in less crud in the bore. Black Talons in any caliber, being relatively heavy/slow JHPs, do not penetrate body armor any better than any standard handgun round.
3. The black-tip (AP) ammo for the 5-7 is very strictly controlled by the manufacturer; some depts that issue it require officers to expend it only on police ranges or turn in expended brass to account for the rounds.
4. FN factory commercial ammo for the 5-7 is basically a .22WMR...nothing special. There are some smaller companies that load great stuff for it, helping maximize the round's potential.
16 Comments
Reaper308
where's the black tips?
Joseph C Medina 41
You're looking for the black tips, I'm looking for the gun itself. You know where I can get it!!!
sytasyn_syn
In the store, you got money?
Reaper308
in need the five-seven first... its on my wish list
Reaper308
i admit.. its UGLY, but something about the 5.7x28... its a pretty sweet round, with some good velocity. I definately have a few rifles above it.
Reaper308
sytasyn- don't go deleting shit on me while im tryin to respond... makes me look like a raving lunatic!!
clintlebo
do you really think systasyn deleting stuff is the only thing that makes you a raving lunatic?
clintbo
Reaper308
doesn't help much either
sytasyn_syn
Well I was going to say EEEWWWW to it, but I was reading 5 7 and thinking Hi-Point...Dont ask why, I have no excuse!
Harold
Look's like some some of the tips might be teflon coated, if so I know that
these are a felony to have in the U.S.
Reaper308
red tip is tracer, white tip is sub sonic, all red is sporting V-Max
catfish88
Reaper, Are there actually any bullet tips that are teflon coated, because the last one I knew about that was accused of that was black talons, and according to what I've read, they never were. They were just lubalox and the media jumped on "teflon" to make it look worse.
Joseph C Medina 41
Hey Cattfish, do you know where I can purchase this FN Five-seveN pistol do you know?
ivantank
the thread that your tryin to get into is like 13 weeks old and the people involved are not even logged on,,...jus tryin to be helpful pal
rhager24
Cabela's has them. They are about $1000. A waste of $$ if you ask me. Its like a rifle bullet. That's for long range shots. A pistol is only effective at closer range. At close range a good size pistol would have more stopping power. If you are a good distance away then use your rifle.
TXLUCKYGUY
1. Possessing a teflon-coated bullet is not a felony, nor is possessing ammunition loaded with Teflon-coated bullets. Teflon does not contribute to a bullet's capability to defeat any barrier or armor. The original KTW armor piercing bullets had variations that were coated with Teflon. (Try the ATFE website for a detailed breakdown of federal laws on the manufacture, sale, distribution and importation of AP ammo (not possession). Certain states have an AP law, but many (including the TX statute) are vague and rarely if ever prosecuted.)
2. Black Talons were not coated with Teflon (a Dupont proprietary product). They were coated with Lubalox, a Winchester product, that basically assists in less crud in the bore. Black Talons in any caliber, being relatively heavy/slow JHPs, do not penetrate body armor any better than any standard handgun round.
3. The black-tip (AP) ammo for the 5-7 is very strictly controlled by the manufacturer; some depts that issue it require officers to expend it only on police ranges or turn in expended brass to account for the rounds.
4. FN factory commercial ammo for the 5-7 is basically a .22WMR...nothing special. There are some smaller companies that load great stuff for it, helping maximize the round's potential.