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U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes

Pentagon Supplier for Rifle Sights Says It Has 'Always' Added New Testament References

By JOSEPH RHEE, TAHMAN BRADLEY and BRIAN ROSS

Jan. 18, 2010 —

Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army.

U.S. military rules specifically prohibit the proselytizing of any religion in Iraq or Afghanistan and were drawn up in order to prevent criticism that the U.S. was embarked on a religious "Crusade" in its war against al Qaeda and Iraqi insurgents.

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian." The company has said the practice began under its founder, Glyn Bindon, a devout Christian from South Africa who was killed in a 2003 plane crash.

'It violates the Constitution'

The company's vision is described on its Web site: "Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom."

"We believe that America is great when its people are good," says the Web site. "This goodness has been based on Biblical standards throughout our history, and we will strive to follow those morals."

Spokespeople for the U.S. Army and the Marine Corps both said their services were unaware of the biblical markings. They said officials were discussing what steps, if any, to take in the wake of the ABCNews.com report. It is not known how many Trijicon sights are currently in use by the U.S. military.

The biblical references appear in the same type font and size as the model numbers on the company's Advanced Combat Optical Guides, called the ACOG.

A photo on a Department of Defense Web site shows Iraqi soldiers being trained by U.S. troops with a rifle equipped with the bible-coded sights.

"It's wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws," said Michael "Mikey" Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group that seeks to preserve the separation of church and state in the military.

'Firearms of Jesus Christ'

"It allows the Mujahedeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they're being shot by Jesus rifles," he said.

Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer, said many members of his group who currently serve in the military have complained about the markings on the sights. He also claims they've told him that commanders have referred to weapons with the sights as "spiritually transformed firearm[s] of Jesus Christ."

He said coded biblical inscriptions play into the hands of "those who are calling this a Crusade."

According to a government contracting watchdog group, fedspending.org, Trijicon had more than $100 million in government contracts in fiscal year 2008. The Michigan company won a $33 million Pentagon contract in July, 2009 for a new machine gun optic, according to Defense Industry Daily. The company's earnings from the U.S. military jumped significantly after 2005, when it won a $660 million long-term contract to supply the Marine Corps with sights.

"This is probably the best example of violation of the separation of church and state in this country," said Weinstein. "It's literally pushing fundamentalist Christianity at the point of a gun against the people that we're fighting. We're emboldening an enemy."

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 4:52 PM

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This Weinstein fag (I'm sure he's really beloved by muslims with that last name) doesn't seem to get that the ragheads will use anything as an excuse to hate us. And if they absolutely can't find or make an excuse, well, so what? They hate us anyway. Fuck this guy. Pffft. Air Force officer, huh? If he was an Air Force officer and he wasn't a pilot, what fucking good was he?

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 4:52 PM

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I have one

I'll check to see if the civilian acogs are the same. I don't see why they would be different

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 4:59 PM

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Jesus sights

In WW11 they painted messages on bombs
why not put Christian things on everything
we use against them ?

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 5:06 PM

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before the goverment contracts, so I see no problem. Would our goverment really consider taking them out of the fight because of this!?! Remember......In God We Trust!

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 5:22 PM

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is that the jihadists openly declare Alla Akbar every time they fire a round, but we can't even have an obscure printing on a sight that no one even knew was there without some American assholes going berzerko. Fucking hypocrites.

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 5:22 PM

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and saw Runaway's comment about the AF Officer not a pilot and I immediately thought -- lawyer, then I read the article and lo and behold...Lawyer. I have written it here before and I will again - Lawyers are screwing up the country as much as anybody else! I love the part that states the enemy can say they are being shot at by 'jesus rifles'...that's laughable and I agree, they want to kill all of us...we are prolonging the agony, we should cleanse the world of them all...WITH JESUS RIFLES that fire pork soaked bullets with crosses on the tips...fuck me! Who on earth would really look into something like this or even care?

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 5:59 PM

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I'm all for it

gonna get an ACOG,those fucking moslems are the antichrist anyway.Bring on the Crusade!!!

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 6:19 PM

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Jesus Rifle

I did not know what an ACOG was. Now I gotta have one.
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4 years 30 weeks ago, 6:22 PM

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that should slow them down

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 6:36 PM

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LMAO

Fuck em all and let the Jesus weapons kill them All for allah.

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 7:15 PM

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I bought an ACOG

AND IT'S at my Dad's house...so when I get home, I will get a chance to use it...and I am going to shoot the Koran with each of my guns and use God's ACOG...haha...I will post the video

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that will be a good video.

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 7:42 PM

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Fuck Mikey Weinstein

This kind of asswipe really gets my blood boiling. I second what everyone has said. Fuck the Taliban, al-Qaeda, insurgents, Muslim radicals - the whole damn bunch of them. If they're offended, that's a good thing. What more could they possibly do than what they're already doing? What kind of scumsucking motherfucker would publicize the Trijicon scope markings? What's his real motive?

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markings

For one thing to let the scums know what
they are being shot with. Why hide it ?

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of course...no sense of patriotism...if it really bothered him that those markings were on there, he could have went to the company and voiced his concern, tell them he wanted to bring this to the attention of the military or the news organizations, but give them a chance to get out in front of the story or change the new ones...hell, maybe they would have just agreed to stop producing them like that and no harm done...but then again, I wouldn't have caved in anyway, I would have told Weinstein to go see the guy who developed them and see if he can help...then sent him to Runaway's house.

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I'd hate to be convicted of aggravated sexual assault when I raped him with an ACOG.

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 8:24 PM

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My mistake

I didn't order it...it was saved in shopping cart for later (I'm not rich enough)...I was going to order it but instead ordered the aimpoint (either I will shoot the Koran). As a matter of fact if I can get a few friends out, we will just hang them and shoot all day!

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Don't forget to dip your rounds in a lil bacon grease for good measure!

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I was hoping you didn't mean
American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
glad to see you ment
Advanced Combat Optical Gunsights

now I can breathe

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 9:04 PM

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I have a 500,000 volt stun baton...that would be cool to use!!!

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 9:18 PM

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For all!!! That's my campaign motto when I run for office in Pennsylvania!!!

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if you want me to get the one mexican in Pennsylvania to vote for you let me know.

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Are you kidding me? There are Mexicans all over the place...as well as Puerto Ricans and every other group you can think of...have you ever been to Philadelphia? Haha! You should be able to get more than one for me

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One more on this

I think Weinstein should be assigned the task of coming over to Iraq/Afghanistan and any other Muslim country where we have troops that are using the ACOG and collect them all so that we don't offend the Muslims (of course, he should be sent with no security detail), but because he is on a mission to free the Muslim countries from Christian insensitivity I am sure he will be welcome.

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oh shit

you're right!!! lolI I did'nt think about Philly!!! duh....ok there are 5 mexicans...the rest are Puerto Ricans.....I'll help....besides I think Runawayguns fired me as his campaign manager.....i won't bow to his sexual needs.

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I bought my ACOG about 4 yrs. ago. It has a 6 or 7 digit number/letter code and ends with a -R (I think, I checked it out last night). Anyway it ends with a dash then another letter. There is no biblical reference on mine. Either this article is B.S, or the biblical numbers were only on really old, really new, or military contract ACOGS.

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AP – This handout photo provided by the Defense Department, taken March 25, 2009, shows U.S. Army Sgt. Daniel … By RICHARD LARDNER, Associated Press Writer Richard Lardner, Associated Press Writer – 18 mins ago
WASHINGTON – A Michigan defense contractor will voluntarily stop stamping references to Bible verses on combat rifle sights made for the U.S. military, a major buyer of the company's gear.

In a statement released Thursday, Trijicon of Wixom, Mich., says it is also providing to the armed forces free of charge modification kits to remove the Scripture citations from the telescoping sights already in use. Through multimillion dollar contracts, the Marine Corps and Army have bought more than 300,000 Trijicon sights.

The references to Bible passages raised concerns that the citations break a government rule that bars proselytizing by American troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, which are predominantly Muslim countries.

A spokesman for U.S. Central Command initially said the Trijicon sights didn't violate the ban and compared the citations on the sights to the "In God We Trust" inscription printed on U.S. currency.

On Thursday, however, Army Gen. David Petraeus, Central Command's top officer, called the practice "disturbing."

"This is a serious concern to me and the other commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan," Petraeus told an audience at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

In a statement issued later by the command, Petraeus said that "cultural and religious sensitivities are important considerations in the conduct of military operations."

New Zealand announced Thursday that they would remove the citations from the sights they have, and Australia, which also uses the sights, is assessing what to do.

New Zealand defense force spokesman Maj. Kristian Dunne said Trijicon would be instructed to remove the inscriptions from further orders of the gun sights for New Zealand and the letters would be removed from gun sights already in use by troops.

The inscriptions are not obvious and appear in raised lettering at the end of the stock number. Trijicon's rifle sights use tritium, a radioactive form of hydrogen, to create light and help shooters hit what they're aiming for.

Markings on the Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight, which is standard issue to U.S. special operations forces, include "JN8:12," a reference to John 8:12: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, 'I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life,'" according to the King James version of the Bible.

The Trijicon Reflex sight is stamped with 2COR4:6, a reference to part of the second letter of Paul to the Corinthians: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ," the King James version reads.

Photos posted on a Defense Department Web site show Iraqi forces training with rifles equipped with the inscribed sights.

Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, president of the Interfaith Alliance, said in a letter sent Thursday to President Barack Obama that the gun sights "clearly violate" the rule against proselytizing. Gaddy added that "images of American soldiers as Christian crusaders come to mind when they are carrying weaponry bearing such verses."

Mikey Weinstein, president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, contacted The Associated Press last week about the Scripture citations. He said he had received complaints from active-duty and retired members of the military. Weinstein said he couldn't identify them because they fear retaliation.

The company's practice of putting Bible references on the sites began nearly 30 years ago by Trijicon's founder, Glyn Bindon, who was killed in a plane crash in 2003. His son Stephen, Trijicon's president, has continued the practice.

"Trijicon has proudly served the U.S. military for more than two decades, and our decision to offer to voluntarily remove these references is both prudent and appropriate," Stephen Bindon said in the statement.

The statement does not provide an estimate on the removal costs. A company spokesman did not return a telephone call.

The company is also making the same offer to military in other countries that have purchased Trijicon's rifle sights.

An Army spokesman said Thursday the service was unaware of the coded biblical references until a few days ago.

"It is not the policy of the Army or the Department of Defense to put religious references of any kind on its equipment," Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings said.

Marine Corps spokeswoman Capt. Geraldine Carey said the service "is making every effort to remove these markings from all of our scopes and will ensure that all future procurement of these scopes will not have these types of markings."

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4 years 30 weeks ago, 7:01 PM

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a car tomorrow, I don't think I will be upset...anyone???

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I would not want to be

official Mikey 'Wetpants" or this glorified Private Geraldine "Could Care less' in the Sight of YahShua/Iesus on Judgment Day attempting to pull that crap of ...."Well you see sir I worked for the Freedom from Religion ......oh oh ....I meant to say Freedom OF Religion office..."... when what will be done with "I will deny them who deny me" Matt 10:33. Read 2Tim 2:12 too. There is a place and an abyss that cannot be crossed even with a finger dip of water to cool that on fire tongue aye.

So this is for anybody.. I want one of those sights !!.. anyone know anybody that has one for sale PM me PLEASE. I want one for my collection.

God I love those ACOG folks. Notice how they did not bear False Witness OR deny Truth either. Way to go guys. You've got moxie. And you've got Backbone.

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