Hitler 'Suicide Guns'

Hitler 'Suicide Guns'

German author Ulrich Völklein, has perused the Soviet interrogation records of Otto Günsche, Hitler's adjutant, and Heinz Linge, his valet. Echoing what he exclusively related to British historian David Irving in 1967 -- who donated copies of the Soviet interrogation records to German archives later -- Günsche said that he, Linge, and Martin Bormann entered the Führer's private rooms in the Berlin bunker when they smelt gunpowder.

Braun was lying on a sofa. Hitler's body was slumped over the right side of a chair.

Irving first described this in his book Hitler's War (The Viking Press, 1977).

"Blood was dripping from his right temple, a pool of blood was already on the carpet," Günsche testified to the Soviets, "It was immediately apparent that he had shot himself from his own pistol, a PPK 7.65mm which eight days previously after an emotional conference [on April 22, 1945] he had taken out of his bedside table and carried with him constantly, loaded."

Linge confirmed that he saw the PPK 7.65 on the floor to the right of Hitler's body, and the 6.35 next to his left foot. Günsche sketched the guns' position also for David Irving in 1967.

After burning the bodies, as he also told the British writer, Günsche put both revolvers in his pocket and later gave them to a Lieutenant Hamann, the adjutant to Artur Axmann, head of the Hitler youth movement.

The lieutenant apparently wished to keep the guns as relics. Günsche retained Hitler's fountain pen (which he still has).

Hamann fell into Soviet hands. Stalin is claimed to have kept the 7.65 in his study.

The book Quest [Melchior & Brandenberg, 1990] quotes Axmann as stating that he buried Hitler's death gun under the Sandkrug bridge in Berlin.

July 20, 1998

An American dealer in North Carolina is offering for sale the two Walther pistols with which Adolf Hitler killed himself. The Nazi Führer carried one with him at all times in the final hours before his death, and used both in his macabre suicide.

Cherry's Fine Guns, of Greensboro, is asking over $3 million for the pair; one a Walther PPK 7.65 calibre, was Hitler's suicide weapon, the other, a Walther Special Model 8, 6.35 calibre, is the gun used by Geli Raubal, Hitler's niece and lover, to commit suicide in his Munich apartment in September 1931.

Dealer Kevin Cherry says that the guns were purchased from a Russian source.

Any buyer will be able to see documents of the guns' provenance, including infra-red documents showing proof of the Russian sale.

New York, Monday, July 1, 2002

JDL leader faces fraud charges for trying to sell "Hitler suicide gun"

By Henry Benjamin

Sydney, Australia, July 1 (JTA) The head of the militant Jewish Defense League in Australia has been accused of fraud for his attempts to sell the pistol Hitler purportedly used to kill himself.

Ze'ev Korwan, 51, faces a September court date on 139 counts of fraud.

Korwan, who was charged under his real name of Michael O'Hara, allegedly forged documents using ink produced in Germany in 1936 in an effort to authenticate Hitler's gun as well as a second gun owned by Geli Raubal, Hitler's niece and lover.

The documents - including letters from SS chief Heinrich Himmler and Emile Maurice, Hitler's driver and bodyguard - then allegedly were inserted into archives in Germany and Russia.

Asking $2.5 million for each gun, Korwan put them on the world market through dealers in Melbourne, Australia, and Greensboro, N.C.

The sellers claimed the guns had been taken from Hitler's valet by the Russians, kept in Stalin's safe and then stored in KGB archives.

The sale allegedly was being made on behalf of an Austrian family that had paid $700,000 to get the guns out of Russia.

However, the Melbourne Sunday Age newspaper and the German publication Der Spiegel uncovered the alleged fraud after they combined forces to investigate the authenticity of the guns/

On the night of April 29, 1945, being 56 years of age, Hitler marries Eva Braun, of 33.

Hitler never hid his taste for young women, every picture of him accompanied by youngsters show him transformed. His niece, Geli Raubal, had been his prior passion; she was also, like Eva Braun, very young when they were together.

On April 29th the SS Gruppenführer Heinrich Müller, Head of the Gestapo, and Hermann Fegelein, married to Gretl, Eva Braun's sister, are taken up to the Chancellery's Gardens. The myth has it that they were both executed immediately, and with no trace of evidence or corpses left, in fact they both disappeared in thin air.

The day after that, April 30th, Hitler's personal pilot, Hans Baur, begged him to escape by plane either to Argentina or Japan. There was a Junkers Ju390 V2 ready, with six 1700hp BMW engines, with a cruising speed of 500km/h and a flying autonomy of 9700 km. This plane had been designed to bomb New York and in fact its prototype flew to the United States and came back.

Lieutenant Baur was the Lieutenant of the 'Grenzmark', Hitler's private plane, a Focke Wulf Condor Fw200-V, Four BMW 850 hp engines, in 1938 it flew from Berlin to Tokyo for the first time, it had a cruising speed of 335 km/h and a flying autonomy of 3560 km.

According to the known story Hitler, together with his wife, would commit suicide at 3:30 p.m. on April 30th. The direct witnesses being, one way or the other, the Erich Kempka, Otto Günsche and Heinz Linge and some members of the Leibstandarte who saw some bulks being taken out through the emergency exit of the Führerbunker into the garden and afterwards a bonfire.

The great avenue, the East-West axis which cut the Tiergarten in two, from the Brandenburg Gate to the Victory Column, with its 900m of length constituted a great landing strip. In March 1945, by Hitler's express order, the lights were taken out to allow big planes, like the Ju52 with its 19m wingspan, to land there. It was almost intact and the pictures of that time show that the nearby trees only had their branches damaged by shrapnel.The planes, generally, arrived from the Brandenburg Gate and took off from the Victory Column.

On the last day of April the battle for the Reichstag had virtually ended in the Königsplatz and the nearby avenue was less dangerous, a landing and a take-off was then possible. The probabilities of success during the afternoon were high, but during the night, between the 30th and the 1st, they were excellent.

On April 30, 1945, at 4:15 p.m., a Ju52 landed at Berlin Downtown, two of that plane's crew saw Adolf Hitler in front of a turbojet plane, probably an Arado 234 B, or Type C, a great tactical bomber of two/four jets. Unlike the other German jet planes of that time, it could land on difficult landing strips or on natural fields due to its oversized landing gear, its take off was also very short if it carried no bombs, which according to the standard version was around 500 kg to 1000 kg. It had a big pilot cabin and a comfortable space behind the cargo compartment. A perfect plane to escape in from an extreme situation, this tactical bomber both B and C model had an autonomy of 1650/1400 km and flew at 10,000/11,000 Mts. which made it invulnerable together with its cruising speed of 700/800 km/h, these features were superior to the ones the Allied planes of that time had and similar to the ones of modern executive jets.

The new Chancellery made by the architect Speer is part of the myth surrounding Hitler´s suicide. The Chancellery´s blueprint shows a 220m long building, which extended its front throughout the totality of the Voss Strasse and had Italian style gardens under which the Führerbunker was located.

The structural integrity of the architectonic set is evidenced by a picture taken during an Allied strike in April 1945 and another airshot taken days after Berlin´s defeat. Indeed, it is not destroyed, though it is clear that only one 500 kg bomb hit near the secondary entrance of the Voss Strasse without doing any damage to the inside of the construction.

There was wall damage in the central hall, more than one hundred meters long, and in Hitler´s study, where the Bohemian chandeliers were still intact.

The area that covers the Führerbunker was photographed from the roof of the Honor Court in June 1945, and it is of great importance, the amount of construction material and scaffolds present at the field which covers the area, specially near the emergency exit cube, where an L-shaped pit was found, destined to build the foundations of a protective wall.

As late as May 1945 the hand removed gravel piled a few feet away from the bunker's exit was still evident. The piled gravel could still be seen two months later, in July 1945, and there had been very little crumbling in the pit, not deeper than 3 feet. Four 20 lt. cans of oil were still on the premises, abandoned by the Soviets as trophies, and a concrete mixer at the corner of the pit.

The Diplomat's Hall, behind the emergency exit door and the nearby looking outpost to the left of it showed very little shrapnel damage in their plastering. The lamps and blinds were left untouched, so was the smooth surface of the concrete cube of the emergency exit. The disorder of the interrupted work is evidenced by the pictures taken in May and July 1945.

As a consequence of the area not being declared off-limit for the Allied Forces many visits were made by militaries, politicians and journalists. Everybody visited the miserable 3m by 4m L-shaped pit, measured by a white tape exiting the emergency door that was put when Churchill visited the site on July 16, 1945, site and sat on Hitler's sofa that had been brought from the Führerbunker. To everyone's eyes it was a simple ditch that showed no trace of a bonfire, let alone of a bomb cone as it has always been told. There were no impact holes or other characteristics to justify that myth or the one of the Wagnerian bonfire where Hitler was supposedly burned to ashes.

Russian photo of "Hitler's Corpse"
May 2, 1945
(note bullet hole in forehead)
It is true indeed that the Soviets wanted to show off with the Allies that visited the Soviet sector, they showed pictures of them around a body, in a trophy like manner. They also published a close–up of what they claimed was Hitler's lifeless body in Pravda, the Official Bulletin of the Party, that was actually nothing more than a grossly tricked picture of a man twenty years younger than Hitler that but for the little mustaches bore no resemblance with him. There were witnesses that ascertained that he was just a humble cook, but his picture kept appearing in history books illustrating Hitler's last days for at least fifty years afterwards.

Hitler's Bunker was another myth. It was depicted as a refuge but it was actually a system of several interconnected shelters. The Führerbunker, only Hitler himself and his closest men had access to it, and the Vorbunker, which had the services and accessories for the Führerbunker, (a map was never published in benefit of the official story) thus being a huge shelter of covered and usable 500 sq. m.

In order to increase the mystery, its hard access was also mythified with the excuse that the Soviets prohibited the access, but the pictures show that both Hitler's and Eva Braun's bedrooms and the study-room had been entered by not only Soviet but also by American researchers, identifiable by their uniforms and weaponry.

Allied Journalists were also shown the interior of the Führerbunker and entered it through the 44 step stair which the Hitler couple had used on April 30th for the last time.

It is also true that the rooms of the Führerbunker were full of hundreds of items, furniture and even a huge safe box that had been in his private room, all of which are still missing.

Russians examining the blood stains on the sofa

In July 1945 Bill Vandivert, reporter for Life Magazine, took a picture of the American CIC researchers who, with nothing besides a candle, were examining the living room, Hitler's suicide site, where a blood stain in the armrest of the sofa constituted the evidence of the myth, (American researchers exclusively took into account the sofa's bloodstains, overlooking the similar stains that could be seen on Eva Braun's bed, even when by its shape and size it had probably been left by one of the hundred wounded that were found by the Soviets at the time of occupying the Bunker.

Percy Knauth also of Life Magazine reported that:

Against one wall stood a sofa with a light wooden frame and thick brocade cushions. This was where Hitler and Eva Braun - his bride of 48 hours after she had been mistress for sixteen years - had shot themselves if the story told by Hitler's driver Ernst Kempka is true. We held our lights close to the sofa. There were blood stains on the light-coloured armrest of the sofa. Blood had dripped down and collected in small coagulated stripes in the corner. Blood was also to be seen on the outer side of the sofa on the brocade cloth.

Unidentified gun on Bunker Death Couch

Even that sofa disappeared together with every historical evidence that could be found on the site, from Hitler's Brockhaus encyclopedia piled up in his room to Eva´s clothing, scattered on the bed.

Historians always speak about a chancellery hit by many bombs, but the pictures of the gardens and of the park of ancient oaks surrounding the Führerbunker area show exactly the opposite. All the trees surrounding the Führerbunker´s exit are still standing with their branches intact, and there is no evidence of air-bomb hits nor of mortar craters. The Italian gardens also remained intact, those trees made it impossible for the SS Harry Mengershausen who testified that near Hitler's study, from a chancellery's window, he could see Hitler's and Hitler's wife's body being burned, to have witnessed the Viking funeral. The supposed bonfire could not have been seen from the chancellery's windows facing the exit because of the trees and the distance.

The photographic evidence presented two decades afterwards, also like identificating evidence, show just a jaw fragment with a golden prosthesis on top of it, the jaw bone has holes and the ceramic part of the golden bridge is missing. The X-rays used for comparison taken of Hitler's head in 1944 are of very low quality and have no forensic value.

During the first days of May 1945, a picture of a carbonized cadaver was taken, burned to such an extent that the members broke apart when moved, the only intact thing that appeared on the picture was the penis and the scrotum of one testicle, hence another myth.

The only clear and attributable picture made public by the Soviet authorities during the autopsies made in the first half of May 1945, was Helga Göbbels', twelve years of age. Another one was her father's carbonized cadaver, Josef Göbbels who is still wearing a white cotton shirt and a black tie.

Another very widely spread myth is Hitler's physical degradation after the July 1944 assassination attempt. In August that year he decorates SS Oberstgruppenführer Sepp Dietrich.

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7 years 19 weeks ago, 11:22 AM

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The first on disc, or nat geo was "in search of Hitlers body".. they used todays DNA info to see if the bodies supposedly burned and under Russian control (this is a maj issue as we allowed them to take Berlin) the bottom line was no match..

Second one was on mil channel about Hitlers body guards.. The extent of his protection was so great its hard to imagine that while others in high office made plans to exit to SA that he didn't.

This is one of those things that will never know.. The only thing that the Russians and our Gov agreed on durring the cold war was Hitler didn't survive.. Anything could be possible..For all we know hes having high tea with OBL these days..

"ya know Osama i always wanted to fly a Junkers into the empire state building, but that lop Gorreing always came up with excuses..i got no respect i tell ya.. no respect"

Hitler watched a bit to much Rodney while down in Argentina

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
7 years 19 weeks ago, 11:44 AM


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even though its dangerfield...the word combinations in your last paragraph will likely alert alphabet web spiders

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
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