How come?

beat us by way of the courts.

Sam.. "Maybe if the kids had parents & teachers that taught them correctly they wouldn't end up in Bull Edward's house" .. Sorta proud of that.. ok REAL proud of it..

What we do (or did for us geezers) shouldn't define us as men, and the longer your retired the less you are defined by it.. that being said i think most of us do define ourselfs by what we do for a living, after all it's what we spend our lives focused on, and s what what were good at.

Now i find im good at.. hmm.. got the remote down pat.. working on cell phones.. know how to get the garage door up and down. i pretty much rock at that, but G makes me stop after i do it fifteen or twenty times.. (thinks the neb's are gona talk) ..

wake up brother.. you asleep at the keyboard or what.. talk to us..

It shouldn't be up to the schools to teach it. As a father, that's my job. The schools are bad because no one takes responisiblity for the child's education. If a teacher sends homework, then parents just loose their minds. These kids then grow up and think that life should be just given to them. Any wonder why many end up in jail. Look, if you want a strong religious influence in their schooling, then send them to private schools or homeschool. The government has no business in any religion. If you want to your kids to learn it, then you teach it. I don't like public schools, so my wife and I are homeschooling.

I tend to agree, but they shouldn't be outlawed in schools. They can teach sex education and all about Homos & Lezbos.

Your right. The schools should stick to teaching the basics and leave the social stuff for the parents. That would be the great compromise, the right won't push religion and the left will keep the jack has two dads at home.

The basic tenets of atheism and liberalism are taught in school, belief in a spiritual entity is discouraged and frequently is ridiculed and punished by school officials. To ban a religious practice by individuals and like minded groups IS a violation of the 1st amendment protection of freedom of religion.
That IS government advocating one belief over another in violation of the establishment clause.

Coppertop, the original post at the top of this thread does not talk about schools teaching religion, it states a fact that recently we've seen the Bible banned from schools. Teachers and students not being allowed to even have them in open view on school grounds.
I'd say that is just about a load of horse shit.

When my wife taught 5th grade for a couple years before we had kids, there was no rule against the kids having bibles. They had to wait until breaks to read from them. Only if it became a distraction did it become a issue. Also, the kids had to be careful to not be pushing onto the other kids. That's why it should just be plain vanilla in the public schools. Until the schools can teach the kids how to read, write, and do math, all that other stuff needs to go away.

for them if you going to have them...........