I had me friend do a bit of reasearch on the colley family

I had me friend do a bit of reasearch on the colley family

And well the pic here is of the colley family around 1862. Notice there is 2 John Colley's in the pic but please put your attention to the one on the left side. There is a 75% chance as this is my Great Great Great Grandpa who fought in the civil war. But the article that was with the pic on the website my friend gave me says he survived the civil war and lived till 1897 where he died of pneumonia. So taken by this account seems to make both of me uncles wrong in saying he died at Gettysburg or Chickamunga. But to add further credit to the authenticty of the pic I told me granny a few names from the pic here and she reconized a few of them,not all of them though. If the facts are correct that would make me civil war ancestor 12 years old when he was in the civil war in 1862. Another fact is from the article is that John moved to Kentucky and became a school teacher shortly before he died. He also married an elizabeth but her maiden name is unknown,she died in 1930.

I find this truly amazing that there is a high possibilty that this is my family ancestors. I am awe struck that there is photograghic proof of John Colley.

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 6:37 PM

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and it can be quite fascinating. There is a ton of stuff on the Internet. I'm in a bit of a rush today, but we should talk about it sometime. I've gotten back to 1619 on one line!

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 2:26 PM

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So is that hot chic named Spicy a relative also?
Shes pretty hot, must be, named Spicy and all.
Id like to see her holding a pair of old black powder pistols and in a skimpy 1860s outfit.... you know dress pulled up to her ankles

4 years 13 weeks ago, 1:45 AM

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All your facts are well put together on the family Jon.. The only thing i sorta question, (not the facts, I'm sure thier accurate, and honestly congratulate you for putting it together well) .. I do wonder about the photo.. I've done a little research with old photos from that era, and a lot of things, cloths style, hair style, especially the men's jackets, point this pic to be a bit later than 1862..

Saying this, as your right about 12 year olds serving in the war, and if it's the other John. (with the bead) then the pic would date about 30+ years later.. and that (circa late 1890's) would be a bit closer to all i mentioned..

One way or the other, good work.. Also don't be disappointed with the "facts" not matching about losing a family member in one of the big battles, thats a real common thing that later generations take a bit of liberty with the facts..

My Mom swore up and down we were related to Pocahontas.. Found out years later anybody, and everybody with a drop of native American blood has that story, guessing as Edwards is a "slavers" name i might have a bit more "Zimbabwean" in me than "crow"..

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 3:35 AM

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damn thats redneck

lol

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 10:49 AM

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Snake..

Sure defer to you on this one, can i ask why you think the photo is from 62 as opposed to the 1890's.. I sure don't question any of your facts here Jon, just currious on the age of the photo and why you think its from 62.. thanks for sharing by the way..

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 11:08 AM

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Sure your right about that.. reread my comment Jon, you have two Johns in the pic, and the photo really looks (based on hairstyles, and especially men's clothing etc.) about 30+ years later.. So possibly the other John would have been the vet.. in either case interesting and good job...

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 11:08 AM

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Snake, he went to

war when he was 12 years old?????

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 11:13 AM

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of the Civil War. My mother's family lived in Tennessee, had slaves, but were in an area controlled by the North. When the southerners showed up to kill or conscript the men folk they hid in a cave. The southerners threatened to hang Molly, the slave, but she would not tell where they were. She was loyal to her 'owners.'

This family originated in Jamestown. My great x 8 grandfather's musket is displayed in the Virginia State Historical Museum in Richmond, which I saw last year. He was killed by Indians in the 1640's and his wife fought them off with this gun. I posted the pic on here somewhere.

My Dad's family were all southerners and several of my grandmother's relatives fought in the Civil War. I have documents showing my great great great grandfather Jeremiah Pack fought in the War of 1812 and received a pension. I know of one relative who was a Sgt. in the Revolutionary War on the American side. There is a persistent rumor on that side of Native American ancestry, but I had DNA tests done both on the female and male side and that theory is disproven. I think maybe they just lived alongside them and may have been 'adopted' into the tribe, which was very common.

You can learn a great deal from census records. The local library may have access to them for you. Give it a try.

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 11:16 AM

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Schuyler....

welcome back... That's the pic brother.. resist all thoughts of change.. laughing my ass off here in AZ..

Hamp.. the 12 year old thing could be a fact.. I've heard a lot of civil war stories about preteen kids in action.. I know its amazing, but it's been done all thru history, and was done in the civil war..

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 11:24 AM

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I forget. It does show that slavery was a bit different than we have been taught. I'm not saying that makes it right, of course, just saying that we don't really understand how folks back then lived and what pressures were on them from the rest of society. Some slaves were treated horribly--and some were not. I also have a relative who came to America as an indentured servant, which amounts to the same thing. She was willing to spend the majority of her life, including her younger years, as a slave just to get to America. She was 'freed' past the age of 40. Makes you think.

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 11:24 AM

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only thinking WOW! thats awful young to go to war and I agree that children soldiers are prevalent even today in countries such as Africa etc.

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4 years 13 weeks ago, 4:11 PM

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While I agree with your last sentence directly above, I believe most of these boys left home and joined up of their own accord. Certainly, shame on the officer who allows them to stay, but, when the shit hits the fan, you need the guy keeping the kid out of harms way to be up front fighting. No way to keep the kid off the field!
Puberty and hormones, boners half the damn day!, nobody wants to fight more than a 11 to 14 year old boy.

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