Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was sworn in as a Homeland Security Advisor

Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was sworn in as a Homeland Security Advisor

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Obama administration through Janet Napolitano appointed Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim,
as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development. DHS Secretary Janet
Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was born in
Damascus, Syria, as ADC National Executive Director as a member of
the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard of a new government official being
identified as a devout Christian, devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a
devout Protestant....? No? Me either. Just wondering.

Was it not "Devout Muslim men" that flew planes into U.S. buildings
8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim [Nidal Malik Hasan] who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security
positions? Doesn't this make you feel safer already?? That should
make our home land much safer, huh!!

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 10:33 PM

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a muslim working for our homeland security? i really do not know if i should laugh or cry.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!
4 years 25 weeks ago, 10:40 PM

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Raffy stock up on ammo

is the thing to do

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 10:42 PM

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hey gregaz

sneaking in huh

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 11:50 PM

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dont worry about it, i got a crapload of ammo, we should all just hook up and take on the muslims cowboy style.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 9:44 AM

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Be ready to defend ourselves. I'm not worried about some fuckin higher up being a raghead. He won't directly affect me. Just be prepared to take on any agressors who get into our country because of weakening protections by this regime.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 2:37 PM

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I fully realize that Al-Qaeda and the Taliban are Muslims. However, we must realize that all Muslims are not terrorists, nor do they all hate the US. I know nothing about Mr. Shora, so I cannot comment about him. I will say that truly devout Muslims do not support terrorism - they deplore it. Al-Qaeda and the Taliban are far from devout Muslims. The vast majority of their members are ill- or non-educated dupes, with no knowledge of the world outside of their narrow circles. They swallow whatever lies and bullshit their power-mad, fanatical leaders spew out.
The adversarial relationship between Christians and Muslims go back centuries, with many bad actions done by both. Unfortunately, with the situation as it is in the world today, it's extremely difficult to bring both sides together, to reason together in acceptance of each other's beliefs. I wish that I could see a time when this could happen, but I simply cannot.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 8:16 PM

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sorry ecaman

not all muslims are terrorist but so far all terrorist have been muslim. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 2:58 PM

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How could it Bob..

We have 5K years of fighting.. and I'm afraid the cultural differences are beyond what most of us could ever relate to.. i for one have a real problem with some of the Koran..The idea that Mohammad had (among many) a 9 year old wife is revolting..

Yes i know that the moderate moral Muslim might deplore terrorism.. But where were these moderates when the towers went down, or the Cole was bombed, or when the Internet was full of heads being severed..

My own faith requires forgiveness.. and im working on it.. My biggest problem is i see that the moderate Muslims are in the minority.. Not here in America maybe.. But even here there's not the outrage for the heinous treatment of women by Muslims that i believe there should be, and i really feel that the moderate Muslim is in the minority.. I wish that were not the case, and I hope im wrong..

Your point on the appointment is absolutely correct, to condemn someone simply by thier beliefs is below contempt. I have a couple of Dr's that are Muslim, and i respect the fact that they hold thier faith, ive never discussed this with them, but i sure wish more moderate Muslims would speak out, maybe it would be a bit easier to feel that the majority was reasonable..

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:57 PM

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just a couple of weeks before the second Gulf War broke out. The Second Army was parked in a Turkish harbor at the time wanting to travel across Turkey and into Iraq from the North. Ultimately the Turkish Parliment voted no deal. But I met a lot of Turks, Turks from the streets, guys who cleaned bathrooms--not fancy tourist directors. Unanimously, without a single exception, they would approach me as an obvious American (Funny, as I look just as German as the Germans, whom the Turks hate) and they would say, "We're not like that. We're sorry about 9/11" or, as one guy put it, "God damn Saddam!" (He didn't have much English.) I was a little uneasy going there, frankly, but over the weeks I was there I began to relax a bit to the point that I wasn't really worried about my safety. I stayed for a time in a hotel just three blocks from the Blue Mosque in Istanbul. In Turkey the Shiites and the Sunnis get along. It's like the difference between being Protestant and Catholic. The Turks also understand terrorism. They feel they had it with the Kurds. (I know this is subject to interpretation, but it's just that a modern western Turkish person feels that way even though we may see it differently.) The point is, they are empathetic to us.

They also like us personally because we don't have European-style attitudes. I was in the museum that holds their crown jewels and yelled to my wife, "You've gotta see the size of this emerald!" The guards there reacted and smiled. They actually said, "We like Americans because they appreciate us." The Germans have taken over valuable real estate for vacation homes and treat the Turks like dirt. The English sneer that their Crown Jewels are a lot bigger than those in Turkey. The Turks know that and don't like it, but they like us because we treat them as equals.

The issue as I see it is that the Muslim religion is about 800 years younger than Christianity and that Christianity 800 years ago was a much meaner religion in practice than it is today. As always, politicians mis-use religion as an excuse to wage war. Richard the Lionheart (Robin Hood fame) slaughtered hundreds of Muslims and cut open their bellies to see if they had swallowed valuable gems. That whole Crusades thing was not a pretty sight. For the most part Christianity reformed itself into a fairly peaceful religion, but it took them until after the Renaissance to do it.

My guess is if allowed to continue the Muslim religion would eventually chill out. Unfortunately we do not have the luxury of waiting 800 years. We're in the 21st century now and so are they. I agree with a lot of the comments here that the moderate Muslims need to step up to the plate here and stop the jihadists. But the thing is, they (the moderates) in their countries are in exactly the same position we are in the US. After all, the liberals have taken over. What did we do to stop it? All I can say is, not enough. Moderate Muslims feel exactly like we conservatives do.

What we really need in the world is more Turkeys and fewer Irans. Turkey has a secular government. The guy who started modern Turkey, Mustafa Ataturk (Ataturk means 'father of the Turks') forced the Turks to dump the Arabic script and adopt a Western style alphabet. He stopped the practice of multiple wives and harems. He did his best to turn Turkey to Western ways of thinking. He knew, as a Muslim, that the theocracy and kingdom route was not the way to go, but a western style democracy was. We need more Ataturks, too.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 4:03 PM

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his wife lived in Turkey for a number of years and loved it there.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

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Off the wall question

I don't know much about Muslims, don't
know much about Methodist either so I
guess that;s a trade off.
Question If Muslims were to be allowed to
wear their religious cloths etc covering
their faces should the average Joe be
allowed to wear something like a ski mask ?
I just see problems with peoples faces being hidden.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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I agree

But this is exactly the problem, that the moderates don't stand up...that takes courage and in my book they don't have it. In High School, I watched a Jewish kid (who later became my friend), take abuse by two fuckheads (both on the football team, one was the largest guy on the team and starting defensive tackle), pick on this kid over and over. Most people just tried to ignore it (like moderates). Some probably condoned it mentally, some ignored, some just weren't willing to see what was going on, but I couldn't take it and it was something that just bothered me. The kid didn't want to start with them, especially considering he was outnumbered and probably feared them. Well, hell...I was only 126 pounds at the time! Anyway, one day during a music class, where the teacher was sleeping in a soundproof room (he was hungover), they started tormenting this kid. I couldn't take it anymore and just got out of my chair and got a full head of steam up, ran into this guy and drove him into the wall, knocking the wind out him. The teacher came out all pissed off demanding to know what happened. Well, nobody said anything at first, but then I spoke out and said, these two assholes were picking on Cort, I had enough of their stupidity and I put an end to it. Now don't get me wrong...I am not trying to make myself out to be a hero or anything, however; something needed to be done and nobody would say or do anything...I just couldn't take it anymore. Also, I knew after school I was probably going to get my ass kicked, but I promised myself that I woudn't be surprised by these two punks and would face them or one of them and do my best. Funny thing happened though...NOTHING, ever. They never said anything to me or did anything to me or that kid. I was scared for sure and I knew there might be repurcussions...but it was the correct thing to do.

Now, I know some speak out...but very few in the grand scheme of things...Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a great speaker and speaks out against the evils of Islam, but there needs to be more and they need to be beating the drum. If they don't do their part, the moderates, then when it gets to the point that we gotta go in and kick ass...they shouldn't be fucking complaining either. And everytime someone says something about killing Amercians, our allies or anything negative like that, they need to drown the radicals out, get their message out there, more often. I think Americans see the so-called moderates' as cowards, hypocrites or worse sympathizers. They need to take a side, no matter how hard it is. They can't be Muslim Sympathizers / Collaborators and Patriotic Americans...it doesn't work. Take a side, take the side of justice and good and fight for it, in whatever way you can. I am not saying go fight, join the military and go off to war. There are many ways to fight against injustice...but first you gotta be willing to see injustice and evil and have the courage to stand up against it.

That is all!
Thanks for your patience...haha

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 5:26 PM

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even if you get your ass whooped. lol
I had a football player sat behind me in history
He liked to thump me in the back of the head
during class. I finally had enough. Not being
any bigger than you were I put my hand under
my history book and the next time he thumped me
I smashed his face with my book. Poor bastard
almost died. I never thought about driving his
nose into his brain. He was out of school 2 weeks
and I got some respect from then on.
Little guy has to get tough sometimes

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 7:44 PM

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Excellent points

I believe that in some countries (Iran, of course, but quite a few more also), moderates don't speak up because if they did, the fanatics would kill them. Sometimes, the moderates don't speak up just because it's not popular, either because they want to be accepted, or because it's just easier to keep quiet.
I think that a good bit of the problem is that in so many of the "problem" areas of the world, the educational level is abysmal. Consider the madrases (sp?), that only seem to use one textbook, the Koran (or Quran, or whatever). No matter how many verses a student learns by memorizing, it does him no good in making a living, or in understanding what's going on in the world outside his very restricted circle. Someone so poorly educated is easily influenced by a mullah, or imam, who's a good, forceful orator.
If Christian countries had schools that used the Bible as the only textbook, there might well be some dangerous, ignorant students produced. Fortunately, we don't.
Consider that in Iraq, Shiites and Sunnis kill each other simply because they're of a different sect of Islam. (Of course, Christians killed each other for no better reason in Northern Ireland.) Look how important an influence Muktada el-Sadr (sp?) now has in Iraq, just because he's a powerful speaker (as was Adolph Hitler).
Consider also that such a high percentage of Arabs hate Jews simply because of events that happened over a thousand years ago. They're taught to do so by their imams. Of course, in their culture, no event is ever forgotten, or forgiven. I have a tough time trying to understand this, because for me it's difficult to maintain active hatred.
In Iran, the educational level is high, and the country is mostly moderate. However, the power structure is very conservative and has no tolerance for moderates - and they have the guns.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 7:47 PM

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to have to live

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Granted, perfectly valid point...however, you must also consider that Major Hasan for instance, was university educated...in the US and part of the US Army and many others who participate in Jihad are highly educated including, doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc.

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right Pkato

the pakistani that crossed into Afghanistan and blew himself up along with several CIA just a couple months ago was a doctor,actully a double agent for the al-queda and the CIA too.

also a while back there was an attempt on a saudi prince by a suicide bomber,don't remember the date off hand, but that bomber was also a doctor,so it is not completely about the educational level,or lack of,but of the core beliefs of the moslem religion,the most important one,IMO,is that they believe it is okay to lie to infedels and deceive,which is exactly what they are doing,history is going to repeat itself if people keep believing that islam is a religion of peace,bring on the crusades.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 12:54 PM

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For the benefit of any of you who by chance didn't see this thread..This is a perfect example of why so many of us spend a lot of time on this site.. There are long but really great comments from a lot of members here that everyone of us should consider. I hope everyone gets an opportunity to read and comment, and tell me that were not blessed with some extraordinary members here. Honestly makes me proud to be part of this group..

I had a lot of anger in my comments about Muslims, and it really made me think last night.. to be perfectly honest it made me spend some time in prayer as forgiveness is the major part of my belief structure.. Notice Bob Moon (Ecamans) comments "I have a tough time trying to understand this, because for me it's difficult to maintain active hatred".. Bob buddy i love ya, this is exactly my point about this group.

I think the issue of maintaining active hatred is at the heart of it. And i sure hope the comments about moderate Muslims are correct.. I want them to be, and i side with Ecaman here, the only way forward is for everyone NOT to maintain active hatred..

On a more light hearted note.. the "book work" of ol CW is always a stand by..

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I see you lol but
he never saw it coming

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 1:04 PM

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of Islam becoming a tolerant religion is amassed in one group mainly! The Muslim women!

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 1:34 PM

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against the muslims it's more about mistrust and anger towards them for not taking control of there own religion and start denouncing these idiots that pull this terrorism crap. Do ypu really hate muslims? I don't but it pisses me off they won't stand up and declare this isn't us we don't believe in this. In my opinion remaining silent is just as bad as cheering them on.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 2:00 PM

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photobear6 wrote:
Do ypu really hate muslims? I don't but it pisses me off they won't stand up and declare this isn't us we don't believe in this. In my opinion remaining silent is just as bad as cheering them on.

I agree with photobear on this and it reminds me of a saying I picked up somewhere (cant remember where) it goes something like, evil unchallenged is as good as evil condoned, or words to that effect.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 2:03 PM

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I just noticed

my spelling sucks lol

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 1:44 PM

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Moderate Muslims

I'd love to see a mass change in the attitudes of Muslims worldwide, and perhaps most especially in the Middle East. I'm not holding my breath. I doubt that I'll see such a change in my lifetime.
The comments about the educated Muslims who have perpetrated horrible acts is well taken. The person who many years ago assassinated King Saud of Saudi Arabia was a young cousin of his, well educated and rich (he was of the royal family after all). Their punishment - a public beheading, at which the entire populace was commanded to appear and witness. After the beheading, his head was carried throughout the crowd for all to see, and the soldiers carrying the head kept repeating, "This can happen to you!"
My observation about governments of Muslim nations is that the only stable (at least for a good period of time) governments have been ones ruled by a strong king or other autocrat. This has been the tradition in the Middle East since well before Mohammed. The people seem to respond to strong leaders, even if they are are autocratic, cruel or despotic. Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Kuwait are stable. Iraq was, until we invaded. Afghanistan is in total turmoil, since Karzai (the "mayor of Kabul") would have been dead long ago were it not for US protection. Iran was stable under the Shah, and seems to quite stable enough for their purposes now under the Grand Ayatollah and that jackass Akhmadinajad.
As an aside, I suppose one may spell Arabic names however one wishes, since anything we write in Latin script is just an approximation of the sound of them; they're written in Arabic. This is similarly true for names and places in Israel, China, Japan, Korea, etc., all of whom have their own written language.

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a100% right on that.
As for hatred toward muslims, I do not "hate" them but seeing them dead evokes no emotion since they have proven to be the enemy.
During WW2 there was a very large number of Germans opposed to the NAZI party, they did not want any part of the war but they were Germans living in Germany. It was sad that they suffered just as the guilty suffered but their nation declaired and carried out war.
Muslims, innocent and guilty alike will suffer because as a religion they declaired war. Muslims are in a better position to end the hostilities than we are.
I did not hate the North Vietnamese but did my job because they were the enemy.
Social liberalism has looked at illegal immigrants from south of our border as being economic victims who deserve a chance at the American dream. That way of thinking has gotten us into the mess we are facing in Arizona and the entire U.S.
Yes, there are good and bad Mexicans, good and bad Muslims. Hell, there's good and bad everything but that is not reason to let down our guard and open our arms unconditionally.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 2:08 PM

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Exactly Daisycutter

it's not about hate or even being a racist it's about making sure that we are safe, don't hate the enemy but you damn well better not trust them or underestimate them. By the way momma calls and you have to leave? Pussy whipped are you? LOL well gotta go momma needs me to grill some ribs.

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LMAO daisycutter

Thats just to funny.
But it's alot better to pussy whipped than dick whipped no offense to runs and ebear.
My wife and I have an agreement when she tells me to do something I do it and when I ask her to do something she'll let me know later if she will or not lol

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a peaceful marriage :<))
Most American men who enjoy wedded bliss are in that kind of arraingement or sleeping on the couch!

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:37 PM

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because if momma ain't happy noboddddddddddys happy. And by the way damn oozerat 3 years married? lol I got more couch time than that lol

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I like sleepin on the couch it's kind of like camping but a lot less work and in the morning I can take a hot shower.

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If she unlocks the door LOL!

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lol ya got me on that one, luckily for me though I have not been forced to sleep on the couch, so far and been married for 3 years. Have done it voluntarily a few times 'cause I was hackin and coughin all noght and didnt want to keep the misses up.

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so considerate.

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No daisycutter that is

daisycutter wrote:
so considerate.

avoiding an ass chewing for keeping her up allnight with your hacking and coughing but damn if it is her doing it you had better have your ass there to pamper her and support her that is what makes a happy marriage and it only took me about 20 years to figure it out lol

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we need in government...ones with common sense like you all...not the jackasses that see the world through rose colored glasses or worse yet care nothing about US Tradition, the Constitution, the rule of law and the will of the people. There is usually not easy answers to complex problems, but there are simple common sense steps that can taken in all problems. In addition, a little humility in our leaders would be great. Wouldn't it be nice to see Obama come out and say, "Listen, I have made a few mistakes on this or that issue and this is how we are going to correct it"...but they are the biggest group of arrogant dipshits assembled together (Washington DC)

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thats the reason Pkato

that we have such a mess. All these politions and I mean all of them dems and republicans alike
seem to forget who elected them and get this we're so Superior a to us and looking down there noses at us because they know better what we want and need than we do because were just a bunch of dumb hicks. It really is time for Americans to wake up and rattle there world and vote the basterds out.

America is not at war. The U.S. Military is at war. America is at the Mall. If you don't stand behind our troops, PLEASE feel free to stand in front of them!
4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:49 PM

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Si Senor....oh shit

did I give myself away with that?

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:19 PM

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We had the G-kids up last weekend, really had a great time.. They also managed to infect Gloria with what ever 4&5 year olds get sick with... She came down with it Tuesday, and i should have been more sympathetic.. or maybe slept on fore mentioned couch..

By the way is it couch or sofa.. what ever, leave it to me to screw up a really insightful thread..

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:27 PM

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2nite LOL!!
Seems strange to me that as much as the G-kids are here S & I have not caught any diseases from them... yet.
Of course, they've not shown up with Bubonic Plague yet...

iyaoyas
4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:40 PM

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it is strange daisy..

Sure wish we had the kids more..thats the only good thing about the "probable" move back to the valley..

The "sick" thing didn't start till the oldest one started Kindergarten.. or what ever it's called.. We got to see them cause the son-n-law, and i know ive told you all, he's a great guy.. went Turkey hunting north of Prescott.. Talked to him last night and he said he didn't even see tracks.. Told him next time just go down to safeway and buy a butterball..

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:43 PM

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cornbread dressing and gravy

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 3:58 PM

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I wish ...

CW.. if only i could have cornbread, dressing, gravy.. sheesh brother your hurting me.. I'm serious about the vegi heaven thing going on around here..

Gosh it's great to be healthy and hungry.. Now all i can think about is a big ol turkey dinner..

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 4:02 PM

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and a few assholes like me to
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4 years 25 weeks ago, 4:13 PM

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I have a lot to benefit this conversation. I really tried earlier but I am sick too. Bad tooth went roaming all about my ear, jaw,sinuses, head, crap-ola. I feel better now but something is still a little wrong sinus wise. And it is storming here. I like to turn of the internet till the lightning is done. but I will break some stuff into parts so it isn't run-on. ,,,,,but save me some room here I PROMISE it will be good and very Paul Harvey.

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4 years 25 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

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I get it about twice a year,,,, and one was this past Wednesday night. Righteous it was.

"We fight not for Glory nor for Honors; but only and alone we fight for Freedom, which no Good Man surrenders but with his life" - Robert the Bruce "Declaration of Arbroath"
4 years 25 weeks ago, 4:20 PM

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might be tomorrow before I get to post ya'll. Lightning 'round here loves to wreak havoc.

"We fight not for Glory nor for Honors; but only and alone we fight for Freedom, which no Good Man surrenders but with his life" - Robert the Bruce "Declaration of Arbroath"
4 years 25 weeks ago, 8:32 PM

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A butterball is good but I'd rather have a big thick juicy steak.

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