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3 years 31 weeks ago, 10:02 AM

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magpul masada

was bought years ago by Cerberus Capital Management, through its Freedom Group holding company... now its the Remington/Bushmaster ACR

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
3 years 31 weeks ago, 10:06 AM

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Also wasn't Robinson Arms mixed up with it all also some how?

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 10:12 AM

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I think

Robinson sued Freedom group and Magpul because of infringement on the XCR... not sure what ever came of the lawsuit. Not sure about Magpul suing Freedom.

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Dunno about that..

Yeah future weapons did a rerun of this on the military channel last night. Of course, everything is the newest and the bestest and gonna be the One... Though this actually looks like it might definitely be a top contender.

So does the new Colt Repear mentioned seeing at the Shot show... SCAR isn't it thats for sure at least for now.

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 10:18 AM

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hahaha read the link below...
They even sued RRA for the LR-8. They tried to patient any "Multi-caliber ambidextrously controllable firearm" which is a very broad spectrum. They'll have to add quite a few other manufactures to the lawsuit now...

http://soldiersystems.net/2010/01/15/robinson-arms-sues-remington-bushma...

Have you seen DPMS's new REPR? Wonder what LWRC thinks about that one... I smell another pissing contest.

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 10:36 AM

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Oh wait!

Trickle down economics! I get it, they get in a pissing contest and the end user pays for it!

Almost as bad as the damn OS wars and the eBook skirmishes going on right now.

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 10:48 AM

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yeah

its getting out of control... it seems like Mag is on everyone's shit list because that make cheaper and better stuff. Abrams Airborne (Vltor) is also suing them because they say the ACS infringes on the Modstock..

Also there is the LaRue / A.R.M.S deal.... shit LaRue already had to change the name of the OSR to the OBR. All this naming rights stuff is pretty stupid. Check out this post that Mark LaRue made on arfcom about the A.R.M.S bullshit..
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=219&t=179975

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 11:16 AM

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legal fee reimbursement over law suits like that and as far as Trade Marking / Copyrighting common things such as numbers or combinations of them goes. It is beyond ridiculous.

HK has the new MR556A1, Ruger the SR556 and Sig the 556 and they are big enough to not play games over a number sequence..

Hey thanks for posting the link, I haven't checked out ar15 in a while and have been meaning to say hello to brother dave over there....

CMMG is working on a new 22 lr AR he had at the range last sunday. Not too sure about it from his comments Sunday though...

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 11:27 AM

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http://www.genengnews.com/gen-news-highlights/myriad-genetics-comes-unde...

They allowed a Corporation and University to patten Human Genes, specifically a Breast Cancer Gene and Ovarian Cancer Gene. Then they charged patients outrageous fee's to allow them to do a simple low cost test on those genes...

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 11:31 AM

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and the Weather is nice for a change!

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 11:31 AM

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ARMS

From Mark LaRue on the forum:
he also trademarked 7.62, 5.56, 50BMG, etc., etc.

As brought up in the discussion, how can ARMS trademark 50 bmg when the "b" notes Browning?

Crazy

As for Robar versus Remington/Bushmaster, Magpul, etc. if you look at the XCR, they offer magpul accessories on their order form.

http://www.robarm.com/currentordersheet.pdf

I am a bit confused, but I am no patent lawyer.

As for the ACR, I love mine, I wish they would have made the barrels M-16 compatible, and used a pencil barrel (like SCAR) to move the center of balance rearward, but it operates flawlessly for the relatively kind abuse I perform on it.

I did see somewhere that the lawsuit was based on an ambidextrous mag release. I think Ruger could sue based on that term, see the mini-14. (I know that the lawsuit is more precise than that, but I am a fan boy of the ACR!!)

Ruger Mini-14

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 12:18 PM

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yeah, its definitely weird that they have an option to buy an XCR with a folding MOE stock. Not sure about that one...

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 11:55 AM

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ha..

Just seems silly that a company(person) can not seem to stand upon their quality of product and has to stoop to lawsuits as some kinda "I m a tell" kind of thing. I mean not all lawsuits are friviolus but come on, he trade marked the nomenclature for calibers? WTF?

I mean, Apple has pretty much been king of that crap, at least Microsoft has the nicety to just buy the damn competition out right....

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3 years 31 weeks ago, 12:03 PM

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I agree ISD

but maybe that why Apple is worth more than Microsoft now (or at least they were before the Skype acquisition). I don't know exact numbers, but when you're worth 200B+, you have a lot of accountability to shareholders.

That’s what Cerberus was doing with their Freedom group. They just acquired a nice chunk of the existing arms industry. Lots of the acquired companies had existing mil contracts and were developing new stuff that will be in the front running for new contracts. Same thing with Herstal and FN/Winchester/Browning...

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
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