This a S&W CTG that belonged to my grandfather. The last patent date on this gun is 1908. Getting ready to let ACE clean it up a bit
is gonna drool all over this picture
yep those early hand ejects are great.. I'm not the only one that gets excited about these, Bob Moon is a big fan of old iron as well.... Jim have to ask you a couple of things.. Fist off what caliber is it.. it could be one of 3 32's... Actually since its a Smith probably only two..
This gets confusing.. Colt came out with the round first (32 Colt) Smith then made a larger case (32 S&W, to big to fit in the Colt) that round caught on, so Colt changed to it, calling thiers in that chambering 32 police to keep from advertising Smith) a few Smiths (very collectible) were made in 32 Colt.. The third 32 (which i think this might be) is 32-20.. based on the old black powder round, and a great round.. The OTG is CTG.. this is a common thing for this era Smith.. The roll marks show as a O, but i've heard before on these and its a S&W deal and is actually ctg..
Ok enough old history.. its a pre war hand eject, and Jimmy ask ACE if shes sure she wants to re-blue it.. you take away any potential value by doing that.. Here's an example, i have an old mfg over 100 years ago Colt pocket rev.. (actually have two of these, both pics up) i gave Gloria for a purse gun.. This is a beautiful little piece that i got cheap as it had been re-blued.. worked out great for me, as i wanted a shooter not collector anyway.... but.. just saying and sure ACE won't guide you wrong.. still a lot she can do on this, including trigger job..
Great looking piece...
Thanks greg az. All I really know about this gun is that my grandfather who was born in 1888 bought this gun sometime in the 20's from a realative. I am 54 years old and the only times I know of it being shot I was 16 and sneaked it out of the house and shot is 1 time only. Then about 6 years ago ACE and I shot about a dozen rounds through it. The shells I have for it have been around for as long as I can remember and they say S&W 32. It was Manufactured in in Springfield Mass. And the patent dates on top start in 1902 and go every yeary year until 1908 so I guessed it to be made in 1908. Ace has the serial number and is going to try and find out more info. As far as the bluing that was just my guess as to what needed to be done.
We like that brother..Take care of our sis guy, and pm any of us if you have worries are concerns there.. Ok back to the piece
Jim you said in your into that guns were not your first interest so going to fill you in a bit.. The dates on the piece really dont mean anything.. I have a lot of older stuff that has the last pat no anywhere from 20 to 40 years BEFORE the gun was made.. This is a common mistake, and pls don't think were slapping you around.. We like ya, and your taste in friends.. Just saying as i know you wouldn't know this..
Actually there might be others in the room that haven't had older iron that don't as well.. The "only" thing the last pat date means is the gun "could" be that old.. Your piece being a 32 S&W is great.. It's a super round and still being made.. DO NOT fire your old ammo.. Not cause its dangerous... Brother its worth some money if you still have it in the original box.. Not a lot maybe, but if it goes back to the 20 when he bought this piece it definitely adds to the value of the gun, and you can get new or reloaded stuff to shoot.. You can find the date by checking serial numbers against reference books, the piece was made up to the war, so probably made somewhere around the time he bought it.. Again the ammo (in box only) is worth some $.
Ok kids will see ya all later tonight... Time to go have a cold one... later all, say hi to Pard for me when he shows up...
I am not as into guns as some, but I am into hunting. I have several guns but because I have other interests as well (ham radio, antiques, solar panels, wind generators, etc, etc) I do not have the money to spend on guns so most of my guns are old. I have two J.Stevens 20 Ga. shot guns. One is a single shot breach load and the othe has a 3 shot clip. I also have a 20 Ga. J.C. Higgins with a 3 shot magazine. A 12 Ga. breach load J. Stevens double barrell and lastly a Marlin model 60 22 semi-auto I receive for Christmas when I was 12(probably had 10,000 rounds shot through it.) lol! So that being said I do like to look & dream.
if taken care of properly...will my last for more than one hundred years too?
Why would someone decide to keep a gun as a collectable instead of keeping it in shooting condition?
What does OTG stand for?
I have a lot of questions, I can google them but you guys seem to know stuff.
i think its a bad roll mark... heard of this before.. thats what i was saying OTG is actually CTG which of course is cartridge..
I read what you said but couldn't understand it till now.
occurrence with Greg,lmao,ha! god that was too easy,greg i kid cause i love him like a brother.
The better firearms will easily last 100 years. One can point to guns made all over the world that are well over that age, and are still fully operative.
Greg, I agree with you on rebluing this old revolver. The photo doesn't show the present condition well enough for me to judge. Even an old gun with only 10% original finish left can be reduced to merely a shooter if it's reblued.
At the last SLC gun show, I sold an old S&W revolver with only 20% finish for more than the Blue Book value, because a collector saw it. It was an old safety hammerless in .38 S&W, and perfect mechanically. A dealer had just handed it back to me, after saying that it wasn't worth $75 to him. The collector asked to see it, looked it over and over, called a friend of his over, and then offered me $250 (which I took!).
Yeah it was sorta easy huh....sheesh.. Still laughing about the three things i always get in posts.. you note im skipping all three on this one !.
there's still time.....and I'd be thinking twice about re-bluing that pistol as well.
my Grandfather's Winchester model 1892 was Mfg. in 1910 and it still shoots remarkably well, I shot it the last time the boy's and I went to the desert (when my radiator shit the bed).....anywhoo, take care of your weapon(s) and they will last many Generations.
You can always buy .32 S&W ammo from www.midwayusa.com, for very reasonable money. Midway almost always has Remington ammo in stock, and they're good people to deal with. Good thing is, as soon as you order much of anything, you'll have an account.
Thanks, The we have a few places here in Paris, but nothing tha sells at at a great discount.