Our "wing" while it's still on the house and not in the back 40

Our "wing" while it's still on the house and not in the back 40

This is the porch that Pard kids me about tieing down... We angled it into the SW to get a view of the mts..and stupid enough not to think of the prevailing winds.. Only lived in AZ for like 30 years at the time, so how was i to know....sheesh...

We had some battles about this puppy, i wanted to go cheap and do a 12x20, Gloria won (glad she did actually) it's 14 by 40.. and were it not for the issues of flying would be perfect.. i had them do 10" turn downs (how deep the ends are for you non mud types), you can see the uprights, thier 1/2" studs sunk in the mud..

I've thrown lines over it durring two storms.. but this did NOT go over well.. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.. we really DO get some wind up here..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:36 AM

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there isn't much you can do short of enclosing it with Plexiglas or some such thing, you would look like the boy in the bubble LOL. If it ever does end up in the back 40, I would replace it with some sort of retractable awning that could be stowed when the winds whip up.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 11:51 AM

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Couldn't you re-enforce that structure with metal dowling? This would be minor surgery and could be painted over when you're done so you could hardly see it. Take some long pieces of metal dowling about the thickness of a piece of rebar. Thread on one end and hook on the other. You'd probably have to have these custom made. Dig holes beneath the deck with a post hole digger down as far as you can easily go. Place the metal into the hole so that it slides up besides the wood post you already have--right next to them. Fill the hole with concrete. Run the metal through the deck beside the posts to the roof until it just sticks out. Big washer and nut on each.

I'd hire it out. Who'd want to do that shit work yourself? Not me. If you know any civil engineers they could perform the calculations to see if this would work.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 10:24 AM

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Couple of questions. When the porch "lifts off" do the support posts come up off the porch or do the rafters separate from the posts? In other words, do you need reinforcement up top or down on the deck? Or both?
This can be remedied and remain asthetically pleasing for G.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 11:44 AM

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I'm still all for just

I'm still all for just chaining it to the truck whenever the wind kicks up.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 11:45 AM

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Thanks brothers..

Guys this is an issue, and i think Mike has a point.. So far it's held up.. but it obviously a danger area due to the mt winds.. No lifting yet Pard, but when we had the real bad storm last year that took out every other tree, and did actually take off another homes roof in the area i had thrown two lines over main horizontal beem you can see, and used a truckers hitch to get some double the force.. same theory as a block and takle (sp duhyathink) and these i figured gave me the equivalent of another 1K of weight up there.. enough that we only lost shingles and that was recorded as 90+ mph winds..

I'm thinking Shuy might have it..I could do just what he suggested, have a couple of turnbuckles to maintain stress and end my worrys..

thanks.. what up with everyone..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:00 PM

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Put a spoiler on it. I know I know, I'm no help.

4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:01 PM

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approach, but do what you must....LOL!!

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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a spoiler... sheeesh Brad.. by the way i found a pic of the youngest if your still single, this is the one with good teeth i only need the small dowry for.. Ya still single, shes a looker..

Hamp.. I've thought about your idea, but the whole point of the huge porch is to enjoy the beautiful view, fresh mt air, etc..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:33 PM

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I know greg, same

reason I have a porch (albeit much smaller) on the front of my house, nice summer evenings in the mountains. Seriously though, with 90+ mph winds, all of the engineering in the world would have a tough time keeping it down once the wind gets under that sucker and starts to lift.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:46 PM

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You need to install some vents or opening flaps that would relieve the air pressure underneath, just like the roof flaps on the NASCAR cars. Prob solved. If it already withstood 90mph winds, relieve a little pressure and for sure no prob, tornadoe or hurricane withstanding.

4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:53 PM

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innovative ideas such as these.....They could double as sky lights.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:55 PM

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Put a piece of monofilament on them to haul them back down after the storm.

4 years 8 weeks ago, 12:58 PM

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Now all i have to do is convince Gloria that cutting holes in the roof makes since.. Your thoughts are right on the money in terms of air pressure, but im thinking theres a reason we don't see this used in actual home porch roof consturction.. The thoughts right, but the methodology aint.. Think this calls for going hell for stout on the two main uprights, both at the roof, and ground..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 1:03 PM

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Get us some closeup pics of the areas in need of "hell for stout". And dimensions of lumber at those points. I got an old battleship I been meaning to part out. I'll take the torch to it! LOL

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 1:16 PM

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you're on Pard..

I knew you would get this one.. Actaully think Mikes idea of the ground anchor is the way i'll go, i see that and some turn buckles, then extra straps top side.. alls good.

No more on me, what up with ya all..

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