This Says it All!

This Says it All!

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 9:06 PM

greg az

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Couple decades in AZ's DOC and can tell you from my heart that Corrections is the most under appreciated / rated of all the sub species of LE.

I was half way thru my carrier before we were Peace Officer Certified, and when those standards (LE certified) came on line i saw a huge change in our professionalism, so obviously i can understand why we didn't have the same respect as other areas of LE..

It always broke my heart to see our troops who were under maned, (corrections always gets "hind tit" in state budgets) and over worked, due to over populated prisons get negative or no coverage on just about any phase of public service coverage.. Can't tell you how many times i'd come home from a double or at least extra hours (sups were given "time" as opposed to $ in OT sit's) and see a story about other public servants, and how brave, etc they were..

Never begrudged any of those who were given this media "pat on back" as they deserved it, that being said we had more on the job injuries than any other state agencies, fact not conjecture, and this was "used" in my last year (04) to justify AZ's 02 budge increase for Corrections

The phrase "run to danger as opposed to away" is over used by those who really have no idea what it means to hear a garbled "NEED BACK UP" you just hope you can get the 20 of where this came from and break out running.. No time to talk about "IMS" procedures, that all works well in the class room, the reality is one staff to every 50 Inmates (if your lucky, and this is NO bs) the real numbers will almost always be a yard of 350-400 Inmates and "maybe" 5 CO's for that population.. You think running into that when you KNOW that the minimum at the other end is so much blood and feces on the ground that we laugh at the CSI "crime scene" stuff..

I could go on for hours on this.. The public has NO idea what goes on behind those walls.. They don't WANT to know.. A personal aside to Matt here.. Matt you asked me a question recently, how did you feel when you read the above.. Thats all you need to know to make your decision..I'm pretty sure i KNOW how you feel, thats why you promote and stay with it.. Few outside of the profession can get this, and thats as it should be.. Dirty, Filthy, Dangerous, no credit.. but others walking your beat get it.. hope you stay and promote Matt..

Guy's i try not to tell to many "war stories" .. the above has me all "tweaked" .. but i will tell you that not a word is exagerated. Lot of hero's out there that don't get the credit they deserve.. CO's are just one of them, but .. honestly.. thier up their at the top of the list..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
5 years 16 weeks ago, 9:17 PM

CoalTrain8321

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Greg

I've been a CO for 3 years now and I agree with you. We are so short handed its crazy. I work a pod with 65 inmates and my desk sits right in the middle of the dayroom, just a desk with a control board for all the doors.

If Guns Kill People Then I Can Blame Miss Spelled Words On My Keyboard
5 years 16 weeks ago, 11:27 PM

greg az

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ha ha...

sorry this took so long.. im a slow ..hmm, guess you can fill in about any thing here.. anyway i saw your greg shout out same time i started on my story.. how are ya lou.. what ya going to TX for.. tornadoes.. or what..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
5 years 16 weeks ago, 11:44 PM

greg az

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Daisy..

quicker this time..AND you're lucky enough to have a pm from me.. Sounds like a good trip, AF type are neat.. Remember the first time you saw a Sgt and Lt walking along doing the first name thing.. which i think was punishable by death or something in the Navy.. didn't know there was a base if FW.. whats the scoop on that NAS or what..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
5 years 16 weeks ago, 3:42 AM

greg az

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Utapao Thailand..

The "town".. outside of it was .. Daisy you remember this.. named .. Sitaheap... yep, and says it all..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
5 years 16 weeks ago, 12:29 AM

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OMG

Another lost jail cop roaming around the forum I see. Love the pic, Coaltrain!

5 years 16 weeks ago, 8:43 AM

Saint J.M. Browning

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Greg, Coaltrain, Matty

My niece and her boyfriend are COs in Lexington, KY. They tell me their stories and I continue to wonder why we don't allow capital punishment for more than just Murder 1. Also, knowing these things makes me want to choke the shit out of bleeding heart a-holes that talk about how prisoners are people too and deserve to be molly-coddled.

"I don't think Hank done it this way" - Waylon
5 years 12 weeks ago, 8:41 AM

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SJMB

I agree wholeheartedly! My camp is all sex offenders and I personally think that child molesters should qualify for and receive the death penalty.

5 years 16 weeks ago, 8:45 PM

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WV dosen't have capital punishment. the worst they can get is life with out, which means they live for free the rest of there lives, watching tv and playing video games which there allowed to have in WV. some of them have jobs but they may only work for an hour and still get there full day pay. evan if they don't work they still get paid for all day of work cause they have job cantracts. I know I only get paid when I go to work and for how long I work.

If Guns Kill People Then I Can Blame Miss Spelled Words On My Keyboard
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