Stand your Ground or Castle Doctrine States in the U.S.

Stand your Ground or Castle Doctrine States in the U.S.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 4:52 PM

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 6:11 PM

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In all fairness, I've been to Fayetteville and maybe that cop deserved it. I tend to be sympathetic towards law enforcement, but I also know several that are real jerks.

4 years 47 weeks ago, 8:09 PM

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I'm playing some devils advocate here. But yes, we do need standards. The problem is that who gets to decide what those standards are. Whether we like it or not, our country has become way more diverse then when we were founded. The good or bad of that is a whole other discussion. Ok, so why stop at flipping the bird to the cops? What if it were a criminal offense to bad mouth the sitting president. Should the office of president be protected like this police officer or do we the people still have our freedom of speech. I think what you getting at is that used to people practiced restraint in what they said. People conducted themselves with a certain respect for one another. These are what the social norms were and most people followed them. However, how can you hold a random person to a higher standard then the vice president who openly said fuck you on the senate floor?

Freedom can only exist when the people practice self restraint and responsibility. That is the paradox, for all to have freedom, all must limit themselves. When you use the power of government, you tend trample freedom and not really protect the people.

4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:06 AM

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Ok, let's look at it this way. By your approach, the Muslims could enact Islamic rules of conduct in towns with high concentrations of Muslims. Or, how about all the Hispanics in northwest Arkansas deciding to make Spanish the official language? The bill of rights is there to protect the individual from the majority. Just look at the map at the top. We all have the same 2nd amendment, but look how different that right is applied across the states, and cities for that matter. The constitution says that my 2nd amendment shall not be infringed, but many locals deny my right anyway. The constitution says that other states must give full faith and credit to the laws of my state. Most commonly used to honor our drivers license when we travel. The problem is that we play games with this. We here in the Midwest don't want honor the marriages performed in other states for gays. States like Illinois, don't honor my concealed carry. When I hear talk of states rights, I often think this is just code for getting away with not following the constitution.

Getting back to your police officer, how much power are you willing to give him? Is he to be feared
And never offended? Or is he a public servant that works for the people? You can't force people to live by your moral code, no matter how many laws are passed. We have fought the war on drugs for how long now? What has that got us? I think we have too many laws anyway. In the beginning, God gave one rule, don't eat from that tree. We failed. God then gave us ten commandments to live by. We fail that daily. However, just posting the commandments will not change that. People have to make that choice for themselves.

4 years 47 weeks ago, 2:09 PM

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I understand were your coming from, but think back to the era of Jim crow. As a nation, we decided that separate but equal doesn't work. Be careful about only wanting to live with like minded people, reservations suck just ask an Indian. I've heard about the whole dry county thing in Arkansas. This is a real good example. The county is going to vote. If it goes wet, then doesn't that mean that the people want it that way. Also, where would you go? We are blessed to live in a country that has choices. Some of those choices may not be "good" but they are ours to make. If you don't want to drink, don't. If you don't like porn, don't buy it. If you don't like Walmart, don't shop there. If you don't like guns, then don't have them.

We have lowered ourselves to the lowest common denominator, someone may abuse or misuse something and should be protected. Is Bloomberg really going to make people be healthy by restricting how big a soda a person can buy? If we want to control something, then look at a mirror and start with that person. We can choose to soar as eagles or to roll with the pigs.

We have a multitude of problems facing us today. My 2nd amendment is important to me. To be honest, what two consenting adults choose to do is not that important to me. We have to pick our battles. As a country, we are at the brink of financial ruin. Our people need jobs and security from those that would do us harm. We need to fight the battles that trully matter.

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